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Community Article Upgrade sons custom PC — Micro Center Upgrade sons custom PC 5ZFamily ✭ May 11 in Help Choosing Parts Hi, I’m looking to upgrade my sons PC. He seems to have burnt out his SSD at least once and definitely has had some glitching issues. He has been teaching himself to play around with Linux coding. He’s been asking for a Lighting upgrade for his bday and I’m wondering if I should get him a water cooling kit. Or if anyone recommends any other sort of colourful lighting upgrades. We built his PC last year for his birthday and now looking to add upgrades for his birthday this year (Thursday). Current PC build:  -Crucial 240GB BX500 2.5 SSD -AMD Ryzen 5 2600 processor  -Vega 56 Red Dragon graphics card -SEAGATE 2TB BARRACUDA 3.5" HD -COOLMAST MASTERLIQUID ML120R RGB Fans -CORSAIR CXM 650W 80+B SM PSU  -GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI motherboard  -COOLMAST MASTERBOX LITE5 case 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments TSPhillipT admin May 11 Hello @5ZFamily, welcome to the Micro Center Community! There are definitely different ways to add lighting to your build!  You can do internal LED Strips like Corsair's Lightning Node Pro.  I use these ones personally since my entire build is all Corsair so everything is synced.. but it was also super easy to install and set up.  Each strip uses magnets and attaches straight to the case itself.  Another option would be external LED strips like Kingwin's Flexible LED strips.  Adding these around the desk or on the back of your monitor and it makes for some great ambiance.  I would advise against the Corsair external strips here, as I use them and although they look great, getting them setup and mounted was pretty frustrating.. and they still sorta fall.   I would be careful with picking up a watercooling kit, you need to make sure the kit you have supports the gear and socket.  It will also require maintenance compared to an AIO like your current setup.    0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter 5ZFamily ✭ May 11 Thank you!  Looking into the lights now. We are updating our wifi from 100/100 to 950/950, so we are hopeful that it’ll help with the glitching.  I’m not sure if the computer is overheating, because of the way he uses it, because the SSD had to be replaced.  Is there anything to add to help keep it on the cooler side? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin May 11 I would double check if the computer is overheating first by running a program that can monitor CPU temps.  Something like Open Hardware Monitor will work.  If you are seeing high temps, something like 85-90 degrees Celcius, I would consider doing a reapplication of thermal paste before upgrading the cooler completely.  What kind of games or activities are being done that causes the glitchiness?  Cause a 120mm AIO should be fine for the 2600 assuming it's running non-overclocked.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter 5ZFamily ✭ May 11 What’s the difference between the Corsair Commander Pro and the Lighting node pro? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter 5ZFamily ✭ May 11 And then the corsair iCue LS100 Smart lighting Strip? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin May 11 I am the Corsair expert on our staff, I can definitely help you out.   The main difference between the Commander Pro and the Lightning Node Pro is that the Commander Pro has added features.  It's actually the Lightning Node Pro and a Fan Hub and a Thermal Sensor all in one device.  It then plugs via USB into your motherboard and can all be controlled/monitored via Corsair's iCUE.  The Lightning Node Pro will only power RGB and make RGB controllable.  It just won't control fan speeds or monitor temperatures.  The Lightning Node Pro however, will come with 4 LED magnetized strips, the Commander Pro just comes with the Commander Pro.   The LS100 are the new external LED lights that are made mainly to be placed on the back of a monitor.  They illuminate great and work with the iCUE software however I found using the magnetic stickers to mount it difficult and frustrating to set up.   If you want to control any Corsair RGB Fans or LEDs and getting them synced with other Corsair products, you will need to use either a Commander Pro or Lightning Node Pro. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter 5ZFamily ✭ May 15 I bought the commander pro, which looks like it’s mainly the controller, but I think I need to go back and buy the lightning node as well, for the additional lights? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin May 15 @5ZFamily Did you purchase Corsair RGB Fans to pair with your Commander Pro?  If not, it doesn't really do much by itself since it is also a Lightning Node Pro and a Fan Hub built in one.  If you only plan on doing the LED Strips, you only really need the Lightning Node Pro as it will come with everything you need to get it the LED Strips to be controlled by software.  The Commander Pro shines when you are running Corsair RGB Fans as it provides 6 Fan Headers and can control the Fan speeds.   Both the Commander Pro and the Lightning Node Pro allow you to control the RGB Fans/LED Strips, the Commander Pro just lets you add more Fans and control their speeds through the iCUE Software.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter 5ZFamily ✭ May 15 Are the Corsair rgb fans better/nicer looking than what I currently have (coolermaster)? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin May 15 They offer a lot more control and the nicer ones have a lot more RGBs inside.  A lot of people will say the LL120s are some of the best RGB fans out there since it has two rings of RGB, 12 individual lights on the outer ring, and 4 lights in the middle section for a total of 16.  Each can be adjusted in iCUE as well.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin May 15 I made this and I hope this helps with wiring concerns if you have any.   Black Lines = Connections for the LED Strips Red Lines = RGB Connections for the RGB for the Fans Green Lines = Fan Connections for the Fans The LED Strips will plug directly into either the Lightning Node Pro or Commander Pro The RGB Fans NEED to plug into Corsairs RGB Fan Hub (Which comes with any multi pack of Corsair Fans) and then that can also either go into the Lightning Node Pro or the Commander Pro.   The Fans can also directly plug into the Commander Pro for powering the actual Fan and controlling the speed.   If you only want the LED Strips and to make them controllable, I would recommend returning the Commander Pro and just getting the Lightning Node Pro kit.  If you plan on getting Corsair Fans, depending on how many Fan Headers are on your motherboard, you may want to keep your Commander Pro.  Keep in mind, the Triple Packs for Corsair Fans will also come with a Lightning Node Pro to control the RGB, you just want to make sure you have enough Fan Headers on the motherboard if you do not have the Commander Pro.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article getting surround sound working — Micro Center getting surround sound working ADS ✭ August 4 in Technical Support Questions I'm having trouble getting surround sound working. I just built a new computer with parts from Microcenter.  My motherboard is the ASRock B550M Pro4: https://www.microcenter.com/product/625305/asrock-b550m-pro4-amd-am4-matx-motherboard It supports 7.1 surround sound, according to the product page, and 5.1 surround sound as well according to the motherboard manual: https://download.asrock.com/Manual/B550M Pro4.pdf But how do I configure it? I tried to test it with two mismatched pairs of speakers (before I go buy a full 5.1 system).  I plugged the two sets of speakers into the green and blue audio jacks on the motherboard.  I then went into the Win10 Sound Settings > Sound Control Panel > Speakers > Configure, and selected "Quadraphonic".  When I "Test" the speakers in this menu I can hear sound from all 4 speakers, front and rear.  But I cannot hear sound from the "rear" speakers when I play audio from any other source, including YouTube videos that are meants to test 5.1 surround sound. What can I do to make surround sound work? Thanks for your help. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Answers TSTonyV admin August 4 In the sound control panel, go into properties > spatial sound. There's a dropdown menu you can use to enable spatial sound settings. If you select the Dolby option it will prompt you to download the Dolby app from the Microsoft Store, you should also have a Windows Sonic option. Try those first and see if that gets it working.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ADS ✭ August 4 Thanks for your suggestion. I only see two options there, under Properties > Spatial Sound: "Off" and "Windows Sonic for Headphones".  Should there be a Dolby option?  How would I get a Dolby option to appear there? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 4 I was always under the impression that Dolby would usually show up there, but I guess it might not always be? Have you made sure to download the audio drivers from ASRock's website for your motherboard?  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ADS ✭ August 5 I previously installed the audio driver from ASRock's website for my motherboard.  I just reinstalled the driver, and there was no change.  The available Spatial Sound settings are still "Off" and "Windows Sonic for Headphones."   Are there other options that I may need to change in order to get more options here? For example, under the Advanced tab I changed the sample rate and bit depth, according to the suggestion of a forum.  It was originally "24 bit, 48000 Hz (Studio Quality)" by default; I changed it to "24 bit, 96000 Hz (Studio Quality)."  This had no effect either. To reiterate: I am hearing sound from all 4 speakers, but only when I use the Win10 "Test" function.  I haven't heard sound from the rear speakers in any other context. Thanks for any further suggestions you have! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin August 6 ADS said: I previously installed the audio driver from ASRock's website for my motherboard.  I just reinstalled the driver, and there was no change.  The available Spatial Sound settings are still "Off" and "Windows Sonic for Headphones."   Are there other options that I may need to change in order to get more options here? For example, under the Advanced tab I changed the sample rate and bit depth, according to the suggestion of a forum.  It was originally "24 bit, 48000 Hz (Studio Quality)" by default; I changed it to "24 bit, 96000 Hz (Studio Quality)."  This had no effect either. To reiterate: I am hearing sound from all 4 speakers, but only when I use the Win10 "Test" function.  I haven't heard sound from the rear speakers in any other context. Thanks for any further suggestions you have! I was looking into this motherboard and I do see it uses RealTek Audio.  Do you happen to have the RealTek Audio Manager installed?  The easiest way to access it if you go to the hidden icons and check for the red speaker icon.  From there, you may be able to see if you can tap into the rear speakers if available. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ADS ✭ August 7 As far as I can tell, I don't have RealTek Audio Manager. If you would like me to test something in RealTek Audio Console, please tell me where I can obtain it (somewhere on RealTek's website?), and please tell me what I should test. In the meantime, I do have RealTek Audio Console, per this screenshot: If I press the "Play" button (the one positioned in the middle of the speakers) to test the speakers, I get sound from each of the 4 speakers sequentially.  This works, much as the Win10 Sound Configuration Test worked. (I mentioned my Win10 test in my original post.) The problem is that I don't *usually* hear anything from the rear speakers under non-test conditions.  There is one exception to that so far. I went to this Youtube link: and downloaded the linked "original file": https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4nYAKUiVpepY1NuQW5ER3l3SXc/edit When I play this file in VLC, I do hear sound from the rear speakers.  This is still a "test" of sorts, but at least it's driven by a real media file through VLC, rather than a component of Win10 or RealTek Audio Console. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding on my part.  Under what conditions should sound actually be played from the rear speakers?  I assumed that if I configured the audio driver for Quadraphonic or 5.1 sound then it (the driver) would automatically convert stereo sound (played via any program, like VLC, Winamp, etc.) into "emulated" Quadraphonic or "emulated" 5.1 sound, to play *something* from the rear speakers.  Is this not the case?  Should I only expect sound from the rear speakers when the original audio was encoded with 5.1 sound? Thanks for your continued help. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 7 Most music is played in stereo, as well as YouTube videos. DVDs/movies or other TV streaming like Netflix will aalso typically be in surround. This sounds like it's probably an issue with the source media just not supporting surround.  That said, Dolby Atmos and Windows Sonic are supposed to simulate surround sound as far as I understand them. Do you have that Windows Sonic setting currently enabled? Clearly your speakers are working properly, so it's something with the media and/or Windows.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article Very first gaming build! — Micro Center Very first gaming build! yamero77 ✭ February 4 in Help Choosing Parts Hey guys! I'm looking to build my first PC and have very basic knowledge of what I'm doing. My budget is from $1500 - $1800. I want to be able to run high graphical settings with over 60 FPS if possible. I already own a mouse and keyboard but have no monitor. Also, regarding the CPU; I have friends who swear by AMD and some who say Intel is the only/best option. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Best Answer TSMichaelB admin February 4 Accepted Answer Welcome to the forum Yamero77. $1500-$1800 is a very solid budget, even if we are partitioning some of that budget for a monitor. Here are a few options for you. Option 1: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=71366aae-3656-44a5-8ea2-e4d470d21184 This option is going to be what I would recommend at the top end of your budget. It will get you an 8 core, 16 thread Intel Core i9 9900K which is currently the best gaming CPU available on the market. It's definitely far more expensive than some of the comparable AMD offerings, but if you did not want to compromise on high core count and clock speed, this is the best choice. It also includes 16GB of DDR4 3600mhz C16 memory, a 750W fully modular gold rated PSU, a 1TB NVMe SSD, a 240mm closed loop liquid cooler, an RTX 2070 graphics card and a Dell S2417DG, a 24 inch 1440p 165hz G-Sync display that will pair absolutely perfect with the rest of the component selection. After the $20 bundle discount, this will cost around $1810 before taxes and does not include the cost of an OS. Option 2: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=505d04dc-9f2d-4abc-b525-f79bab000679 This option is going to be the budget option. It will provide the high refresh rate, high graphical settings that you requested for the lowest price. This will save you the most money now, but may require upgrading sooner as more graphically demanding games launch. The CPU is a fair bit slower than the 9900K, but for 1440P gaming, it doesn't matter all to much as the graphics card will matter more at this resolution. This gives you 6 cores, 12 threads, 12GB of DDR4 3600mhz memory, a 650W bronze PSU, an RTX 2060 KO graphics card, a 1TB NVMe SSD, and the same Dell 24 inch 165hz G-Sync monitor. The total price of this system is $1274 after the $20 bundle, but does not include taxes or the cost of an OS. Option 3: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=1923163c-96c4-4a39-804e-e99a2e273077 This is going to be my personal recommendation. It will grant you the most price:performance of the 3 builds and should last you for quite some time. It's extremely similar to build 1, except we swapped the 9900K down to a 9700K. We still get 8 cores at a very high clock speed, we just save $130 by doing away with the Hyperthreading feature. If you are not streaming while gaming or rendering videos while multi-tasking, you will not miss this feature. The $130 savings also allowed us to move up to an RTX 2070 Super, which should give you an extra 20% faster graphics card for even higher framerates in more demanding titles, all while landing right in the middle of your budget at $1650 after the $20 bundle discount. Once again, this does not include taxes or the cost of an OS. To answer the question about which processor is better, it's honestly subjective. AMD is in a really good spot right now because they offer very similar gaming performance to Intel, while offering much better multi-threaded performance for a lower price. With that being said, Intel still has the best gaming oriented processors on the market. If gaming is your goal and you do not want to compromise on performance, Intel is still the best option. It all boils down to how you plan on using your system. I would say if you do more than gaming, or find yourself multi-tasking while gaming, go with AMD's Ryzen 3000 series. If you are just gaming and want the highest framerates possible, go with Intel's 9th generation processors. 6 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Answers yamero77 ✭ February 5 Thanks so much Michael for taking the time to put these together so quickly. You've provided some great options here and I think the third build is definitely closest to my personal needs. I have colleagues who swear by both AMD and Intel so your more agnostic and preferential explanation really helped me out! If you or anyone else that happens to see this has any tips or anything else for me, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks again! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMichaelB admin February 5 You're very welcome Yamero. The biggest tip I can recommend would be to make sure that you enable Nvidia's G-Sync technology. It's going to be instrumental in making sure your gaming experience is extremely smooth, free of jittering and tearing. Here is a quick article on how to do so: https://www.microcenter.com/tech_center/article/10907/how-to-enable-nvidia-g-sync. Lastly, if you do decide to get that Dell monitor, tweak the color settings a little bit. While they are already pretty good out of the box, the panel looks phenomenal when properly tuned. For my panel, the best colors were achieved when setting red at 96, green at 99, and leaving blue at 100. Gamma is going to be subjective, but I like my panels dark since I often game in a dark room. I run my gamma at 0.83 and brightness at 13%, but this is going to be up to your personal preference. One last recommendation. The LanCool II chassis comes with a spot to add a USB Type C port. It requires a cable to add and attach to a motherboard. If you need that cable, it can be found here: https://www.microcenter.com/product/616604/lian-li-600mm-usb-31-(gen-2-type-c)-cable-for-lancool-ii---black. If you have any questions, please let us know! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article New PowerSpec G464 - issues with post — Micro Center New PowerSpec G464 - issues with post Tom_CAT ✭ September 13 in Customer Service Questions Hello, The system works great most of the time, however, I do notice that sometimes upon a cold boot, the system hangs and no signal is sent to the screen.  The fans and lights turn on (I don't know the colors on the MOBO), but there is no signal to the screen.   1 or at worst 2 hard restarts seems resolve the issue, but I would like the system be more stable considering it is brand new and I don't think hard starts are especially healthy. All drivers are up to date.  Happy to send along log files if helpful.  I tried to upload the admin event logs if helpful, there seems to be some warning and errors there, but file format wasn't allowed. Thanks in advance! -Tom 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments TSMikeW admin September 13 Greetings, Please download and install CPU-Z. When you're able, please provide us with screenshots of the Memory and SPD tabs. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ September 14 Hey @TSMikeW Screenshots attached.   Let me know what you think! SPD4 screenshot 20200914.PNG 20.5K SPD2 screenshot 20200914.PNG 21K Memory screenshot 20200914.PNG 17.9K 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMikeW admin September 15 @Tom_CAT You're running on the XMP profile. Lets try to rule out a few things. Test another outlet, different power cable. Though a lot of time cold boot issues come down to unstable RAM. We could reduce the frequency to test, however this would be a work around. If that works we'll need to replace the RAM. I'd would step it down to 3200 and see if the cold boot issue remains. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ September 23 @TSMikeW Hey Mike - Ok, So I finally ran into the issue again this morning.   I would say it's about 1 in 10/15 times the issue occurs.  I do see the MOBO light go to orange and it hangs.   Never turns over to green.     I just went into the BIOS and changed the DOCP setting to "Auto" as opposed to the higher performance setting, not sure how to screenshot a BIOS.....   It appears my ram is now clocking in at 2400 per memory in Task Manager.  Although I still see the CPUZ at XMP 2.0.   Did I do this correctly?     I'll try to test it a bunch over the next few days to see if it is more stable.   But how big of an issue is an error that occurs every 10 or 15 boots, is there any damage being done to the computer from a cold restart?    Are there long term implications where the RAM is likely to fail sooner an I'll be outside my Powerspec 1 year warranty? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMikeW admin September 23 @Tom_CAT Motherboard is hanging on initialization. Having to shut it down should not cause any long term damage, but this is an issue we do need to address. If you could also check the debug LED's on the top right and let me know what they're indicating. I'd assume it's hanging on CPU/DRAM. Regarding the RAM, not quite. You're going to see the actual speed on CPU-Z under memory, and the SPD profiles under SPD. These are profiles that are stored, not necessarily loaded. So it sounds like by setting XMP to Auto, it didn't load a profile at all and trained to the 2400Mhz JEDEC profile that was on the stick. Verify on the memory tab. It's still a good test to see if it's stable. Let us know what your results are. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ September 23 @TSMikeW Thank you sir. I'll let you know, it seems stable right now.  But the issue is that it takes quite a few restarts to catch the issue.   Right now I'm assuming i need to wait a couple hours between tests, ie "Cold reboot".   The downside there being it takes a while to test.   Or should I just shut down and boot the machine10 - 20 times to see if I get the issue?   That would obviously be much faster..... 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMikeW admin September 23 @Tom_CAT You can try testing it like that. What you described was a cold boot issue, so it sounds like you would need to turn it off and let is it for a while. Warm boot issues to exist, which are the opposite, generally fails to POST on a restart. No harm in booting it 10-20 times to test. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ September 29 @TSMikeW Alright, so here is the feedback.   It's not a perfect test.   But I can confirm that the computer had no issues with restarts (stable) while the RAM was set to 2400 MHz.   After that, I turned back on the XMP/DOCP I was able to recreate the issue on a cold boot at around the 15th restart (It takes a while).   The MOBO does hang on DRAM with an Orange light.   I'll see if I can find time to just restart the thing 10 - 15 times in row today to confirm it only occurs on cold reboots, but it seems the issue is with the RAM. Thoughts? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin September 29 It could be the RAM or Processor as well as the processor is what manages the RAM.  Have you tried doing single stick of RAM at XMP?  If it crashes on both sticks when it is in one at a time, it is likely a  processor issues than a RAM issue. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ September 29 @TSPhillipT How would I test a single stick of RAM, would I need to take it out or just turn off in BIOS? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin September 29 @Tom_CAT Turn off the computer and switch the Power Supply Off, take out one stick of RAM, and do what you were doing like normal to test.  If everything works fine, swap out the RAM.  Make sure you are in XMP.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ October 6 @TSMikeW  @TSPhillipT Well, I have confirmed that the issue only shows up on a cold reboot.  Therefore, testing it out with different sticks of ram will take some time.   I'll come back when I can and try to restart the computer after letting it rest for a half hour to see if I can replicate. It occurs about 1 in 10 cold reboots. Thanks 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMikeW admin October 7 @Tom_CAT Issue is with your RAM. From this point we can tweak the settings to resolve the issue and maximize performance or we can replace the RAM in store for you. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ October 7 @TSMikeW Thank you for clarifying.  Let's try to tweak the settings, if that doesn't work getting it replaced would be pretty straight forward.  I just took one stick out - Per Phillip's advice - and was able to replicate the issue on the first reboot.   What settings should I adjust? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tom_CAT ✭ October 8 @TSMikeW Actually, if it's easier to just get new RAM, I'll take it into Microcenter and do that.    It's pretty difficult to test for this as I have to wait to get 10 or 15 cold reboots to see if the issue is still there   Your advice? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSMikeW admin October 8 @Tom_CAT The RAM is a guess at this point. There are other possible causes, like the IMC on the CPU that could be the culprit as well. We'll need to replace one component to rule out the other. I would advise bringing the system in for service. We'll look into and take care of the problem. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article NVIDIA GeForce PC Build Showcase Contest - $500 gift card prize — Micro Center NVIDIA GeForce PC Build Showcase Contest - $500 gift card prize mmiller2 admin October 5 edited October 5 in Announcements, News & Launches Micro Center and NVIDIA GeForce are teaming up to bring your another PC Build Showcase contest! Submit your PC featuring an NVIDA GeForce graphics card for a chance to win a $500 gift card. Submit your entries between October 5th and October 31st and then vote for your favorite between November 3rd and November 9th! We'll select the top 5 based on the following criteria. Photo quality Quality of description of the post Quality of cable management Uniqueness of build or theme How the PC fits into the full setup We will announce the top 5 on 11/3 and comment in this thread with a link to vote for your favorite! Voting will close on 11/9 at 9am EST. The winner will be contacted that week $500 gift card prize How to enter (see terms and conditions for full contest rules): Join the Micro Center community Submit your custom built PC to the PC Build Showcase (see instructions below) To qualify as an entry for this contest, the build must include an NVIDIA GeForce graphics card (any generation) Once your PC build showcase post is approved (please allow 24-48 hours) post a comment in this thread with a link to your post How to submit your custom build to the PC Build Showcase Step 1. Sign in to fill out the build submission form Step 2. Fill out the build category, name, favorite feature, and description. Include details about the process, what you use your PC for, things you would change, etc. Step 3. Add a few glamour shots of your completed build Step 4. Fill in your parts used Note: You can manually add archived or custom parts. In the example below, I've added an Intel i7-7700K by typing in the "Select CPU" field. Since the part is not listed I then selected "Add Intel Core i7" as seen below in red. Once you've added your part, you can adjust the price to correctly list what you paid. Step 5.  Select "Save", then select "Publish" to submit your build for approval We can't wait to see your NVIDIA GeForce Builds! Thanks to NVIDIA for working with us on this contest! Good luck! Browse NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Cards See attached contest terms and conditions. Contest submission window: 10/5/20 - 10/31/20 Contest voting window: 11/3/20 - 11/9/20  The  winner will win a $500 Micro Center gift card.  NVIDIA GeForce PC Build Showcase Contest.pdf 401.9K 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter «12» Go Comments Dragkhan ✭ October 8 edited October 8 See below comment 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Dragkhan ✭ October 8 edited October 9 Here's my entry.  "Pink Flow" build - https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3838/pink-flow---pink-theme-gaming-pc-build,-sleeper-machine-super-powerful! GPU is EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Ultra, Overclocked 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Spencer ✭ October 9 Here's my setup, not crazy expensive but I'm happy with it! https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3902/colortheory GPU is a Gigabyte GTX 1070 Founders Edition. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Andy2 ✭ October 9 edited October 9 @Spencer, Not Crazy expensive, has 3 monitors and a nice gaming Pc XD 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BlazerBuddy ✭ October 9 edited October 9 Here’s my Pc, It may not be the most expensive Pc, and not the nicest of the pcs, but it sure game nicely and I love it!! It is called “Dark Knight”, hope you all like it. Link- https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3499/dark-knight--little-bit-of-rgb-is-great,-to-much-and-your-blind-) 4 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Iden ✭ October 9 edited October 9 @BlazerBuddy Wow!! I just checked out your build and I love how much enthusiasm you have with it. It really seems like you did the best you could with what you had, it really helps me get away from all those multi thousand dollar builds and shows just how much you can do without breaking the bank a lot!!!. Great Job!!! 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Andy2 ✭ October 9 edited October 9 @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BlazerBuddy ✭ October 9 edited October 19 Andy2 said: @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. Thank you!! I used my dads old iPad camera so the pictures won’t look the best, sorry for that. The pictures look pretty good to me, but I can see some hazyness in the photos. I hope it doesn’t hurt my chances of winning since one of the criteria's was to have good looking pictures. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BlazerBuddy ✭ October 9 edited October 9 . 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Spencer ✭ October 9 BlazerBuddy said: Andy2 said: @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. Thank you!!, I used my dads old iPad camera so the pictures won’t look the best, sorry for that. The pictures look pretty good to me, but I can see some hazy ness in the photos. I hope it doesn’t hurt my chances of winning since one of the criteria's was to have good looking pictures. It looks like all images have a bit of graininess to them, so I don't think it'll pose too much of an issue when voting on builds. I took my build photos on a DSLR and the website only accepted low-resolution JPG images so mine don't look great either. Best of luck to you! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Andy2 ✭ October 9 edited October 9 BlazerBuddy said: Andy2 said: @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. Thank you!!, I used my dads old iPad camera so the pictures won’t look the best, sorry for that. The pictures look pretty good to me, but I can see some hazy ness in the photos. I hope it doesn’t hurt my chances of winning since one of the criteria's was to have good looking pictures. It probably won’t hurt the chances a lot, the pictures still look great. The only hurt in chances is the lack of rgb, all the other giveaway, the top 5 and the winner all have a good theme and have lots of rgb. I haven’t seen a winner that hasn’t had tons of rgb with them. You have a decent theme going, but the lack of rgb may hurt your chances. Either way your build looks great and I like it!!  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BlazerBuddy ✭ October 9 @Spencer Why Thank you, goodluck to you to!! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Benjamin_Lindeen ✭ October 9 Good luck to all, some of your builds were inspiring to say the least. https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3925/lockdown-sanity-protector?preview=yes 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BlazerBuddy ✭ October 10 edited October 10 Andy2 said: BlazerBuddy said: Andy2 said: @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. Thank you!!, I used my dads old iPad camera so the pictures won’t look the best, sorry for that. The pictures look pretty good to me, but I can see some hazy ness in the photos. I hope it doesn’t hurt my chances of winning since one of the criteria's was to have good looking pictures. It probably won’t hurt the chances a lot, the pictures still look great. The only hurt in chances is the lack of rgb, all the other giveaway, the top 5 and the winner all have a good theme and have lots of rgb. I haven’t seen a winner that hasn’t had tons of rgb with them. You have a decent theme going, but the lack of rgb may hurt your chances. Either way your build looks great and I like it!!  Oof. Well no matter if I win or lose, at least I will get to see some cool builds!! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Chris1 ✭ October 11 edited October 21 Chris1 said: BlazerBuddy said: Andy2 said: BlazerBuddy said: Andy2 said: @BlazerBuddy Your Build looks great and I bet you have a great chance of winning if you can make it to the top 5, but what camera did you use?? Some of the pictures you posted look a little hazy. Thank you!!, I used my dads old iPad camera so the pictures won’t look the best, sorry for that. The pictures look pretty good to me, but I can see some hazy ness in the photos. I hope it doesn’t hurt my chances of winning since one of the criteria's was to have good looking pictures. It probably won’t hurt the chances a lot, the pictures still look great. The only hurt in chances is the lack of rgb, all the other giveaway, the top 5 and the winner all have a good theme and have lots of rgb. I haven’t seen a winner that hasn’t had tons of rgb with them. You have a decent theme going, but the lack of rgb may hurt your chances. Either way your build looks great and I like it!!  Oof. Well no matter if I win or lose, at least I will get to see some cool builds!!  It would be nice to see a lower end pc win the 500$ Instead of a high end pc after all. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter FlameChucks76 ✭ October 12 Here's mine fellas: https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3880/upendo---15-years-in-the-making-(upendo-=-love-in-swahili) 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Christian_Agama ✭ October 12 Here Is My Build "White Panther": https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3975/white-panther I've put a lot of work and dedication to my build and hope to keep improving it and upgrading it. The name "White Panther" is because of the black and white theme I went with. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Deaner1121 ✭ October 13 Here is my build which I decided to call "Green Thunder" https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/3981/my-cool-pc-(the-card-is-a-zotac-1070-founders) 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ausboss ✭ October 13 Here's my SFF build:  https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4004/sirius-loops-box 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter HandsomeMumbler ✭ October 14 My Water Hashira build, my first ever attempt at hard tube water cooling  https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4058/water-hashira-(demon-slayer)?preview=yes 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Juliann6 ✭ October 14 "City Spectrum Build" - Juliann https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4033/city-spectrum-build Graphics Card - EVGA RTX 3080 FTW Edition 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Mikityuk ✭ October 15 My First Build! https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4027/my-first-build! GTX 1080 SLI 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Gixxer ✭ October 15 Here's my build. https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4057/ryan's-green-pc 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter OrignalGreywolf Wylie ✭ October 15 Got my build waiting to be reviewed before I can post the link but I will give a little tidbit of info on it real quick. I have been out of the building for over 16 years as I have been playing on the xbox since Nov 2003 and I decided to get back in last spring and built my system and I have had fun building again. It is an AMD /Nvidia setup with a custom loop(which I have always wanted to do but never too the plunge). Hope it gets reviewed so I can share it with all of you. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter OrignalGreywolf Wylie ✭ October 17 I have called my PC red Dawn because I usually run the red light s with the blood red fluid and the case is black. Let me know what you think and anything you would add or change on the setup. Would love to hear some ideas on it. https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4096/red-dawn 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter nm23 ✭ October 19 Hi all, here is my build. I am coming from a 3rd gen i7 3770k, paired with a R9 290x. It's been long overdue to upgrade and the timing couldn't be any better. I know that there was new tech coming out but I couldn't wait any longer. I call this build, Yuki. Pleaase enjoy. https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4170/yuki To qualify, I have an EVGA RTX 2060 KO Ultra which I plan to step up to a RTX 3070 when it comes out. For now, this build is awesome! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Ean ✭ October 21 Iden said: @BlazerBuddy Wow!! I just checked out your build and I love how much enthusiasm you have with it. It really seems like you did the best you could with what you had, it really helps me get away from all those multi thousand dollar builds and shows just how much you can do without breaking the bank a lot!!!. Great Job!!! Agreed, it would be nice to see some sub $1000 Pcs in the top 5 this time around😀. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Godsey ✭ October 21 Hi all - This is my first PC build after making the full switch from an iMac and Mac Pro: https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4235/professional-video-editing I'm a videographer with the State Department and needed a workstation that is powerful AND portable. Since my primary workflow is in Premiere I decided to go with the Ryzen 9 3950X paired with an RTX 2060 Super SC Ultra 8gb. Since I usually travel for work (pre-COVID) I also needed something portable. Hence choosing the Sliger SM580. At 15.8 liters it's pretty compact and easy to transport when I need my workstation mobile. Cinebench score is 10562 ! Thanks to 1Usmus CTR 1.1.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter KadirO ✭ October 23 https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4308/first-build-ever?preview=yes 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter SiiK ✭ October 24 Here's my setup. It took me awhile to get to this point, and now I am super happy with my PC. Hope you guys like it! https://www.microcenter.com/buildpost/4224/my-dream-build 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter «12» Go Leave a Comment BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list Format Heading 1Heading 2 QuoteCodeSpoiler Emoji Url Image Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights Drop image/file Home • Announcements, News & LaunchesComment As ... Community Article How to Choose Your Parts, Part 7: The Case — Micro Center How to Choose Your Parts, Part 7: The Case TSTonyV admin May 14 edited October 23 in Cases and Cooling To read part 1, click here! To read part 2, click here! To read part 3, click here! To read part 4, click here! To read part 5, click here! To read part 6, click here! Hello! Welcome back to How to Choose Your parts! We’ll be wrapping up the series with this post, as the case is the last major component you need for a full build. As always, let’s get our key questions in order: What is your budget? Cases are an area where you can save some cost, but if you’re not careful a poorly designed case can potentially cause thermal problems. That said, there are some pretty decent cases for the budget minded, and if you’re looking for something big and fancy those options are there as well.  What form factor is your motherboard/power supply? I went over this a bit in the motherboard guide, but you need to make sure you match the form factor of your motherboard to your case. This also applies to your power supply. What kind of cooling do you want? If you’re planning on using a liquid cooling system, you need a case that supports it, and some air coolers can be so tall that they don’t fit all the way inside. Be sure to check radiator support and fan clearances for your case to accommodate your preferred cooling method.  With those out of the way, let’s get into it. Case form factors The first thing you want to pay attention to is what form factors you can use for your motherboard and power supply. As I mentioned in the motherboard guide, there are several form factors motherboards can come in: ATX, mATX, mini ITX, and eATX. Power supplies are similar, coming in ATX, SFX, and mini ITX form factors. Cases themselves also come in a variety of sizes and depending on what type of case you go with, the form factors it supports for your hardware can vary. One thing to note is that even within a certain category of case, size and layout can vary quite a lot. Some mid-tower cases are more compact, others can be a little larger than you might think. Mid-tower cases are what you’d consider the “standard” case. They’re the most common desktop cases you’ll find and are typically a good balance between space, features, and footprint. Mid-tower cases typically support ATX, mATX and mini ITX form factors, and some may support eATX. Many are designed to support radiators for liquid cooling, but not all. Full-tower cases are the largest cases you’ll typically see. Most of these cases will support liquid cooling as well as eATX motherboards. These cases are particularly good when you have large amounts of PCIe that need space to breathe, but otherwise are not very common. Mini-tower cases are smaller form factors for those looking for something with a smaller footprint. These cases will support mATX and mini ITX motherboards. Some may support radiators for liquid cooling. Many of these cases support SFX and ITX power supplies, some may support standard ATX.   Case Thermals and Air Flow One of the big considerations you should have when choosing your case is your thermals and airflow. Being able to properly circulate fresh air through your computer is pretty important for cooling. A case that is heavily restricted on its air intake means you’re not able to exhaust the heat put out by your components, and that means the temperature of your internal components will go up. Very poorly designed cases could cause big temperature increases vs. a properly ventilated case with good airflow. If airflow and thermals are really important to you, make sure you do your research into the specifics of each case. Manufacturers will handle this in different ways depending on what you choose. Many cases use a mesh front panel, some cases will have a solid front panel but have ventilation on the sides of the case instead. There are even open-air cases that have huge openings and gaps between all the panels (you’ll just have a lot more dust getting in). Every design is different, so it’s important to try and evaluate them on a… case by case basis. Even cases with mesh front panels may not perform as well as they could because the mesh itself is poorly designed and could restrict airflow. A case that looks like it has lots of ventilation could be deceptive because there are brackets inside blocking some of the openings. Always do your research. Where airflow is really important is when you’re overclocking. For the average user running only at stock settings, as long as you don’t get a case that is completely devoid of airflow it shouldn’t affect you too much. But in overclocking thermals rule everything: higher temperatures will affect stability and make it more difficult to push higher clock speeds. If you are an overclocker, make sure you get a case that is well ventilated because every little bit counts. This also applies for the high power draw CPUs like the 9900k, 3900x/3950x and higher. More powerful CPUs have higher power draw and therefore put out more heat. High temperatures can throttle your performance and your case is an important part of that equation. Along with that, it’s important to discuss how fans affect cooling. Even if you have a case that’s fairly well ventilated, you still have to make that air move. Most cases include fans when you purchase them, but some may not. Some may not provide enough to properly take advantage of the amount of ventilation available, so you might need to purchase extra. You don’t necessarily have to fill every possible slot for fans available on the case, but you need something to actually pull air in and exhaust air out of the case. You also want to make sure you have the fans configured in a way that balances your airflow. “Balanced airflow” is actually pretty simple to understand. Every fan in your case can pull in or exhaust a certain amount of air. If you set up your fans in a way that brings more air inside the case than can be exhausted, you have something called “positive pressure.” If your case is exhausting more air than the fans can pull in, then you have “negative pressure.” Your case will have openings and slots in various places that may not be covered by fans, such as PCIe slots. These openings can become intake or exhaust based on what kind of pressure your case has. Positive air pressure will make them become exhaust, negative pressure will make them become intakes. The main benefit of having positive pressure is reduced dust buildup inside your case It may help if you can see this concept visually, so I’d also recommend watching this video by JayzTwoCents that gives a demonstration: https://youtu.be/a12aDCxrcts What cases do we recommend? There are a lot of cases available at various price ranges and different sizes. I won’t cover all of them, because there’s just too many, but I’ll cover each of the popular form factors and give some recommendations that should work and you can find at Micro Center.  Remember, you can almost always find something that will match your personal preferences and price range, so if something I mention here doesn’t quite suit your fancy, do your research! Mini-tower Lian Li TU150: This case is specifically for mini ITX builds. It’s not the absolute smallest ITX case, but is still very compact without compromising too much on cooling capabilities. It can only support a 120mm radiator if you’re into liquid cooling. It also has a carrying handle on the top of the case! Corsair Crystal 280X: This case supports both mATX and mini ITX motherboards,  and has 120mm and 240mm radiator support for liquid cooling. It has a dual-chamber layout where the motherboard mounting area is in its own section in the front of the case, and the PSU mounts behind it. Mid-Tower NZXT H510: Not the greatest when it comes to airflow, but passable for stock use and NZXT has a solid reputation when it comes to the overall design of their cases in tooling and cable management. “Easy to build in” is what some people might say. Lian Li 205: Powerspec approved! We use this case in a number of our newer Powerspec models and it’s a solid option all around for space and cost. Like the H510 it doesn’t have the best airflow, but the design is overall very clean. Cooler Master NR600: This case has a mesh front panel so it boasts some good airflow in its price range. If you want a less expensive case and plan on overclocking or using one of the really hot high-end CPUs, this will be a great option. Fractal Design Meshify C: Another mesh front-panel case with great airflow, this one is a little larger than the cases mentioned previously, so it’s more friendly for internal space.  Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic: This case was designed especially for those with liquid cooling in mind: you can install up to three 360mm radiators in this case. It features a dual chamber design where the power supply is mounted behind the motherboard. It doesn’t come with fans, so you’ll have to supply your own.   Full Tower Lian Li Lancool II: This is a popular full-tower option on a budget that has a good amount of features available. NZXT H710i: Like the H510 this isn’t the best option for airflow, but NZXT overall has good build quality and design otherwise. And that's it for part 7! This is the last post in this series I'll make, because at this point your build is essentially complete. Hopefully this guide helped you, and of course if you have any questions, please let us know! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments JasonA ✭ May 22 What general recommendations would you make regarding additional fans to improve the airflow in the Lian Li LanCool II ? There is talk about a new "Mesh" version being available (essentially removing the RGB lighting, replacing the solid section in the middle of the front panel with mesh, and perhaps even replacing the flip-down power supply doors with mesh too). There was an announcement in January at CES 2020 and there are YouTube videos by Gamers Nexus (one of which shows the prototype "Mesh" version at the factory).  Nevertheless it seems that COVID-19 will probably delay production for some time.  It doesn't yet appear on the Lian Li website, which suggests it's still a long way from getting into stores. So in the interim, what options are recommended ? And can you say anything about the existing flow rates of the factory-supplied fans for the LanCool II ? I couldn't find any specifications, beyond that they were 120mm. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin May 22 edited May 22 JasonA said: What general recommendations would you make regarding additional fans to improve the airflow in the Lian Li LanCool II ? There is talk about a new "Mesh" version being available (essentially removing the RGB lighting, replacing the solid section in the middle of the front panel with mesh, and perhaps even replacing the flip-down power supply doors with mesh too). There was an announcement in January at CES 2020 and there are YouTube videos by Gamers Nexus (one of which shows the prototype "Mesh" version at the factory).  Nevertheless it seems that COVID-19 will probably delay production for some time.  It doesn't yet appear on the Lian Li website, which suggests it's still a long way from getting into stores. So in the interim, what options are recommended ? And can you say anything about the existing flow rates of the factory-supplied fans for the LanCool II ? I couldn't find any specifications, beyond that they were 120mm. There are honestly a lot of great fans to choose from. Corsair's ML fans are good, and I have several ML140 fans in my own case. At high RPMs they can get fairly loud, but they have very good airflow and static pressure. They also make 120mm versions.  https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Fans/Magnetic-Levitation-Fans/ml-pro-config/p/CO-9050045-WW#tab-tech-specs Noctua makes some great fans as well, like the NF-A12 and NF-A14. Noctua is one of the best fan manufacturers on the market, and they're known for providing excellent airflow and quiet operation. The brown color scheme can be offputting, but it wouldn't matter in a case like the Lancool II anyway since you can't really see them. Plus, they've finally started making all black fans. They list all their options and airflow specs here: https://noctua.at/en/products/fan Unfortunately I don't know exactly which fans come with the Lancool II. I've spent some time researching and the best I can get is just the size. Even Lian Li on their website only lists that it has 3x120mm fans, nothing about the specific part numbers. Hopefully somebody else could weigh in on this.  1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article MAINGEAR VECTOR 2 Review - A Choice For Gaming in 2020 — Micro Center MAINGEAR VECTOR 2 Review - A Choice For Gaming in 2020 AlexS admin June 9 edited September 3 in Reviews & Buying Guides Gaming laptop popularity is increasing more and more in this day and age.  With technology forever evolving, the power of processors and video cards you see in high end desktops are now being found more commonly in mid to high-end gaming laptops.   On top of that, the affordability for a higher end gaming laptop that can play most Triple AAA titles at medium-high settings with decent frame rates is reaching levels that the average gamer would be comfortable with when it comes to cost for performance.   MAINGEAR aims to spearhead this demographic this year with their newest model, the MAINGEAR Vector 2.  First Impressions I was quite honored by my boss when he provided me this opportunity to review this golden sample for the MAINGEAR Vector 2.  At first glance, you notice the simple, yet elegant design of the case that doesn’t necessarily yell “GAMER!” to the world.  For owners of the previous VECTOR, they’ll notice it looks quite similar to their own. That's because the case is nearly identical to the previous rendition. You know what they say, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”  The full backlit keyboard is also an attractive feature and provides ample lighting in dark areas.   Looking at the outside of the laptop, I noticed a healthy amount of ports suited towards a gaming laptop. Ethernet port, multiple video ports, USB-C, and more.  The ASUS ROG nor the MSI Laptop I’ve recently had possession of had nowhere near this sort of capacity. The build feels quite sturdy and the display itself doesn’t feel too flimsy either.    For the remainder of the review, please use the shortcuts below to jump to whichever section you prefer. Hardware Specifications Internals Externals 0% Bloatware Final Thoughts 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments AlexS admin June 9 Hardware Specifications Internals Peripherals External Ports & Features 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin June 9 edited June 10 Internals      The MAINGEAR Vector 2 essentially upgrades many of its components to its newer rendition. Below I’ve listed the comparison of major hardware components between the Vector and Vector 2.       Yes, you’ve read that correctly.  The VECTOR 2 uses the desktop variant of the RTX 2060 versus it’s less-powerful, mobile counterpart.  This makes a big difference in performance as the goal of playing TRIPLE AAA titles on higher settings is reachable.   An upgrade to the RAM from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-2933 makes a nice jump as well, with an open slot available if you wish to add another stick of RAM.  The last major upgrade would be the doubling of storage.  The 1TB NVMe SSD removes that worry of having to add and remove games occasionally and the VECTOR 2 also includes a second M.2 slot for adding even more storage.   You also see a processor upgrade to 10th Gen Intel with the i7-10750H 6-core processor. Speakers      The speakers output a nice clear sound at high volume.  It’s pretty clear with very minimal distortion which I enjoy.  While this attribute is sufficient for most games and videos, a gaming headset will be recommended if you need more directional audio. Fans      Underneath the mesh cage house two 5V, 2.25A fans that efficiently expel heat from the device.  Air flow can be felt strongly from the two vents on the side and the two vents in the rear. Like most gaming laptops, this does produce a hefty amount of noise under load but only under load.  The NODE control center also allows a FAN BOOST option to help cool the internals even more.  On idle or light use (office application, browsing the web) you’ll hear little to no fan noise. Battery      Gaming laptops are notorious for draining the battery, even when using light applications.  Nvidia ® Optimus helps relieve this issue.  The VECTOR 2 comes with a 4-cell 15.4V 4100mAh battery that can touch 5-6 hours with light use on Battery Saver mode.  Light gaming will see a 1-2 hours on battery life. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin June 9 edited June 10 Externals Beneath the center of the display is a 720p VGA webcam with LED indicator and to the right of this, a microphone.  The most noise from a visual standpoint will be the side and rear portions of the laptop.  On both sides towards the rear, you’ll have a ribbed design for airflow.  On the back, you’ll also find additional ventilation to keep the VECTOR 2 nice and cool.   On the bottom of the unit, you’ll see some of the internals of the laptop that are covered by a sturdy mesh cage.  I absolutely love this design as you’re maximizing the amount of airflow to come through the bottom of the laptop without compromising the sturdiness of the chassis.  The Display The VECTOR 2 comes with a 15.6” Full HD, non-touchscreen display with a 144hz refresh rate.  As a former Counter-strike enthusiast, this instantly gave me good vibes and almost made me want to jump back into that game when I was playing a few rounds.  The colors are great and the picture is smooth all around.  The max brightness for this unit can touch towards 300 nits.   F1 2019 also performed quite well as driving at 195MPH+ speeds in a Mercedes F1 car looks surprisingly okay on the 15.6” display.  The clean and crisp display is definitely a pro for this gaming laptop. The Keyboard The VECTOR 2 comes with a full chiclet style RGB keyboard.  The keys work well for a touch typist and for hunt-and-peckers, the backlighting can help with locating keys with ease.  The NODE Control Software allows you to easily change the colors of the keyboard to your liking.   Touchpad The VECTOR 2’s Synaptics touchpad has a good size and has solid functionality for the laptop.  A green LED is placed in the upper left hand corner that can be double tapped to enable or disable the touchpad.   Two finger functionality is actually quite smooth in case you need to zoom in or out on a web page or document.  However, unless you’re playing RIOT Games’ Teamfight Tactics, or solitaire, plug in an external mouse.  Actually, do that anyways.   I/O Ports MAINGEAR gifts us a plethora of ports to choose from and for that, we thank them.  I do wish the USB-C port was display-enabled but the two mini-DisplayPort and HDMI output will do the job for most users.   There’s a USB 2.0 port included as well which I’m sure a decision was made for this port to be included.  Placement of all ports are pretty optimal as well.  Shouldn’t cause too much interference with heat exhaust coming out from the ventilation.  Networking For wireless and Bluetooth capabilities, the VECTOR 2 comes with an Intel 9462NGW wireless/Bluetooth card.  It meets the 802.11AC standard with Bluetooth 5.0 so your wireless needs should be covered. Also included is an RJ45 port for gamers who prefer a hardwired connection. The Chassis Going over the case, you have a very sleek, yet simple design. A matte black surface covers the case with the iconic MAINGEAR logo centered on top.  Upon opening the laptop, you reveal the full RGB chiclet style keyboard, two nicely placed buttons for Power and Performance Mode and LEDs to signify Power, Battery, and CAPS Lock.   1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin June 9 0% Bloatware      So when it comes to the advertised 0% BLOATWARE by MAINGEAR...it’s true.  The VECTOR 2 comes with a clean installation of Windows 10, its NODE Control Center and that’s it.  Definitely a pro in my book.  The NODE Control Center is also really easy to use.  From monitoring temps/fan control to changing the colors of your RGB Backlit keyboard, the software is there and very convenient.  The software is also linked to the Performance Mode button I mentioned earlier, so you can cycle it from Office, Gaming, or Turbo modes with the single press of the button.  More on the software here 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin June 9 Final Thoughts     The MAINGEAR Vector 2 would be a nice addition to anyone’s gaming arsenal.  The battery life is surprisingly lengthy with normal applications such as Office or web browsers.   MAINGEAR’s decision to use the desktop variant of the RTX 2060 pays off with great performance.  The 144hz panel just makes everything better.  The Vector 2 is truly a sleek option for on-the-go gaming.        If you're coming from the desktop world and still would like to get an affordable mechanical keyboard and mouse to bring along, I'd recommend the Inland MK-S RGB Gaming Keyboard (Ten-Keyless) and Inland GM76 Gaming Mouse.  Very affordable options with great quality for some intense gaming.   Thanks for reading and stay tuned for the next review! 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Amallycat ✭ September 20 I just got this laptop and it doesn't stay connected to the 5ghz network well. It constantly slows down, or drops off and says it can't find the DNS etc.. It works fine with my 2.4ghz. HOWEVER all other laptops and devices work fine on 5ghz. Only this laptop which is 3 days old is having issues with it. What gives? Router is good. All other devices have no issues. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin September 21 Hello @Amallycat Have you tried updating your network drivers for your laptop or uninstalling and reinstalling those drivers?  If those do not work, I also recommend trying a Winsock Reset; here is a guide to some Network Troubleshooting  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Leave a Comment BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list Format Heading 1Heading 2 QuoteCodeSpoiler Emoji Url Image Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights Drop image/file Home • Reviews & Buying GuidesComment As ... Community Article Join the MicroCenterOfficial Folding@Home Team: #257944 - Page 12 — Micro Center Join the MicroCenterOfficial [email protected] Team: #257944 «1…9101112131415…20» Go Comments kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 10 @Wommwalsh congrats on 100 Million and going  2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ June 11 edited June 11 Well alright then. If you go on vacation, don't forget to mention to someone about monitoring things. Noted. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 11 edited June 11 @MightyMayfield MCO should cross the 10 Billion PPD mark today! The MCO 24avg ranking is 31. As a team, this is how we compare: Green is active users Active Retention 478/1,203 or 39.7% is very good. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 11 edited June 11 Based on [email protected] suggestions my 'summer' folder is a dual 2060 super.  I often see this system >3M PPD.  With a 75% power cap.  Total system power draw is a very modest 370 watts.  GPUs in the low 60Cs. Older Q87 mobo, i7-4770k cpu.  The skeleton chassis was scavenged from an old tower system, it's mostly repurposed gear.  Besides the GPUs, the only new stuff is case fans & heatsink, and I really didn't need the heatsink as I don't do CPU folding as it isn't power efficient.  PPD production is close to a 2080Ti and if you can get OpenBox GPUs, about 1/2 the cost! 4 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter RedJr55 NEOH ✭ June 12 For those that may be interested, there is currently an online auction (e***, not sure if live links are acceptable here or not) for a small quantity of WATTS UP? .NET power meters at a reasonable cost. Without some type of instrumentation, it's all guesswork...... 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 12 We have now passed the 10 Billion point mark with 18 of us now passing the 100 Million mark with 2 more close to it as well. Keep up the great work everyone. We can be sure this isn't going to just go way like we would all like. 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 12 Hey folks, having a problem here. I am running a Lenovo ThinkStation C30, two Xeon Processors, 64 GB of RAM.  Not running a GPU for folding.  OS is Fedora Linux running a KDE desktop.  I have 6.5 TB of Hard Drive.  The OS runs on a 256 m.2 SATA card on the motherboard. The problem...     FAH a7 Client cycles about once every minute or two, runs at 100% and then stops after twenty seconds or less.  Did all my updates, rebooted the machine, and the problem persists.  Moreover, this machine has been working without an issue for three weeks.  I only finished building three weeks ago.  And on top of all this the FAH Control wont run except through a browser.  I am running the 14524 Covid 19 project. I am running two other Linux machines with similar, less powerful setups and a Win10 machine. Ran out of ideas.  Any help is appreciated.  Kirito 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 12 Kirito said: Hey folks, having a problem here. I am running a Lenovo ThinkStation C30, two Xeon Processors, 64 GB of RAM.  Not running a GPU for folding.  OS is Fedora Linux running a KDE desktop.  I have 6.5 TB of Hard Drive.  The OS runs on a 256 m.2 SATA card on the motherboard. The problem...     FAH a7 Client cycles about once every minute or two, runs at 100% and then stops after twenty seconds or less.  Did all my updates, rebooted the machine, and the problem persists.  Moreover, this machine has been working without an issue for three weeks.  I only finished building three weeks ago.  And on top of all this the FAH Control wont run except through a browser.  I am running the 14524 Covid 19 project. I am running two other Linux machines with similar, less powerful setups and a Win10 machine. Ran out of ideas.  Any help is appreciated.  Kirito I believe there was a post on the fha fourm that will address the issue if i remember correctly 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ChrisHarshman ✭✭ June 13 Kirito said: ...OS is Fedora Linux running a KDE desktop... FAH a7 Client cycles about once every minute or two, runs at 100% and then stops after twenty seconds or less.  Did all my updates, rebooted the machine, and the problem persists.  Moreover, this machine has been working without an issue for three weeks.  I only finished building three weeks ago.  And on top of all this the FAH Control wont run except through a browser... What version of Fedora are you running?  There seems to be a lot online about Fedora 31 and 32 using the python3 library instead of python2 and needing to change a header file: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=31971 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 14 Thank you for helping me get FAHControl operating. Now I have run ito this.  What am I doing wrong? Kirito 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:Starting 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:Removing old file 'work/00/logfile_01-20200612-231159.txt' 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: /usr/bin/FAHCoreWrapper /var/lib/fahclient/cores/cores.foldingathome.org/v7/lin/64bit/avx/Core_a7.fah/FahCore_a7 -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 1528 -checkpoint 15 -np 24 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 8562 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:Core PID:8566 15:59:43:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa7 started 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:*********************** Log Started 2020-06-14T15:59:43Z *********************** 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:************************** Gromacs [email protected] Core *************************** 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Type: 0xa7 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Core: Gromacs 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Args: -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 8562 -checkpoint 15 -np 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:             24 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:************************************ CBang ************************************* 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Date: Nov 5 2019 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Time: 06:06:57 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Revision: 46c96f1aa8419571d83f3e63f9c99a0d602f6da9 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:     Branch: master 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Compiler: GNU 8.3.0 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:    Options: -std=c++11 -O3 -funroll-loops -fno-pie -fPIC 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Platform: linux2 4.19.0-5-amd64 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Bits: 64 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Mode: Release 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:************************************ System ************************************ 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:        CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:     CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       CPUs: 24 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:     Memory: 62.72GiB 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Free Memory: 58.75GiB 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:    Threads: POSIX_THREADS 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7: OS Version: 5.6 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Has Battery: false 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7: On Battery: false 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7: UTC Offset: -4 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:        PID: 8566 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:        CWD: /var/lib/fahclient/work 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:******************************** Build - libFAH ******************************** 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:    Version: 0.0.18 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:     Author: Joseph Coffland <[email protected]> 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:  Copyright: 2019 foldingathome.org 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Homepage: https://foldingathome.org/ 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Date: Nov 5 2019 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Time: 06:13:26 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Revision: 490c9aa2957b725af319379424d5c5cb36efb656 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:     Branch: master 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Compiler: GNU 8.3.0 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:    Options: -std=c++11 -O3 -funroll-loops -fno-pie 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:   Platform: linux2 4.19.0-5-amd64 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Bits: 64 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       Mode: Release 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:************************************ Build ************************************* 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:       SIMD: avx_256 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:******************************************************************************** 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Project: 14524 (Run 333, Clone 5, Gen 22) 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Unit: 0x0000002580fccb0a5e781c0de4bfe2da 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Reading tar file core.xml 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Reading tar file frame22.tpr 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Digital signatures verified 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Calling: mdrun -s frame22.tpr -o frame22.trr -x frame22.xtc -cpt 15 -nt 24 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Steps: first=5500000 total=250000 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR: 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:------------------------------------------------------- 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:Program GROMACS, VERSION 5.0.4-20191026-456f0d636-unknown 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:Source code file: /host/debian-stable-64bit-core-a7-avx-release/gromacs-core/build/gromacs/src/gromacs/mdlib/domdec.c, line: 6902 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR: 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:Fatal error: 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:There is no domain decomposition for 20 ranks that is compatible with the given box and a minimum cell size of 1.4227 nm 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:Change the number of ranks or mdrun option -rcon or -dds or your LINCS settings 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:Look in the log file for details on the domain decomposition 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors 15:59:44:WU00:FS00:0xa7:ERROR:------------------------------------------------------- 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:0xa7:WARNING:Unexpected exit() call 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:0xa7:WARNING:Unexpected exit from science code 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Saving result file ../logfile_01.txt 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Saving result file md.log 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:0xa7:Saving result file science.log 15:59:49:WU00:FS00:FahCore returned: INTERRUPTED (102 = 0x66) 16:00:34:35:127.0.0.1:New Web session 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:Starting 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:Removing old file 'work/00/logfile_01-20200612-231259.txt' 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: /usr/bin/FAHCoreWrapper /var/lib/fahclient/cores/cores.foldingathome.org/v7/lin/64bit/avx/Core_a7.fah/FahCore_a7 -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 1528 -checkpoint 15 -np 24 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 8920 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:Core PID:8924 16:00:43:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa7 started 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 14 The computer is running Fedora 32.  It cycles this log every minute.  The FAH Control wouldn't appear on screen and I couldn't get log data before.  The log data above came about thanks to the link you gave me Chris.  Still haven't solved the cycling problem.  Is it a problem with their GROMACS software?   How do I flush the job abd start something new to see if its just the job that is causing the problem? Kirito 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 14 edited June 14 I would suggest posting that log on the fourm for fah the guys there can help you a ton with it. It does look like a setting in linux that might be a issue but not 100% sure. I don't think a wu can be flushed out but it will time out and fail. you might be also able to look at the log file and check a gromacs settings against the url they have in the log http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 14 Thanks kmiller, I will put the data up on the FAH forum.  I went through the Gromacs error page when I found it in the log but nothing seemed to fit the problem (of course that page hasn't been updated since 2016.)  Lets see what FAH has to say. Thanks! Kirito 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 15 Found a solution!  Apparently this particular project has issues with running 24 cores.  Had to switch it down to 12 cores at 3/4 speed and now it has been running all night.  Thanks for everyones help! Kirito 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 17 edited June 17 @MightyMayfield nicely done cracking the 400 mark. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ June 17 edited June 17 kmiller922 said: @MightyMayfield nicely done cracking the 400 mark. Thank you! MC45 is also about to cross into 1000 territory, too! I'm grateful for their and everyone's continued contributions. I never imagined a simple request of mine might lead to an entire army of machines sciencing their way towards a better future. I do wish hardware was a bit easier to get these days though. Large power supplies are getting slim pickings for folding rigs. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 17 edited June 17 We really need a way to keep people motivated in this. I'm just disapointed to see the amount of support from my local store. Reason I say this is my laptop and one other gpu a 980ti I have is running around the clock, My cpu and 2080ti card are used for about 10-14 hours a day by my son since he's still home from work yet. You would think even if the store shut down a dedicated system that they have on the table with a sign, running just durning the hours of operation they would be able to do more than 35k points in a day. Just something I've taken notice to. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 17 edited June 17 kmiller922 said: We really need a way to keep people motivated in this. The summer months will be difficult as most people will be paying more than double for the cost to run gear because of the cost to extract the heat generated. Of course no HVAC system is near 100% efficient, so summer PPDs can strain budgets & emotional commitments to a cause. One of the reasons I posted above about trimming watts expended and selecting gear with higher PPD/watt. So, one approach would be to encourage people to return in the cooler months.  Folding on cooler days or evening hours when power might be cheaper too. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 18 @kmiller922 The expectation of a 24hr/365 commitment is daunting to many people and the cost of participation a burden. Some ideas to ease the Folding commitment, encourage participation: 1) Fold-athon Weekend, once-per-month, the team maxes out heir effort for a weekend, challenging people to tag on Friday,Monday. Good way to invite others to participate and recruit for the team. 2) Sprints, similar in concept to Fold-athon. A day, a week, self-challenge, challenge friends, other teams. 3) Kiosks at local MC stores. My local store doesn`t have anything that I`m aware of... 4) Fall recruiting strategy, cooler temps, more powerful gear with higher efficiency will be arriving. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter teamtempest ✭ June 18 I don't know if any kind of contest would motivate me to do anything more than I'm already doing. Which is not much, as after two months my points totals are a little over two million and my work units completed a little over 400. My off-the-shelf machine is simply not that powerful. I'm basically just donating spare cycles when I'm not seriously using it (running the folder at full power drags down anything involving rapid screen updates). What I find more motivating is seeing actual results coming out of all these contributions people are making. How many work units does it take to complete an average project? 'Cause I have a feeling that I'm seeing the same project numbers that I saw at the start. Hundreds of millions of work units completed and apparently not done yet? That's discouraging. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 18 cine_chris said: @kmiller922 The expectation of a 24hr/365 commitment is daunting to many people and the cost of participation a burden. I know, living in New England, that winter will be harder for me as I will have to pay for gas and electricity.  Don't need the heat running in the summer and I don't run air conditioning, just fans, though my computer room is 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house.  That said, helping people get GPU's would go a long way to helping.  Kirito 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ June 18 teamtempest said: I don't know if any kind of contest would motivate me to do anything more than I'm already doing. Which is not much, as after two months my points totals are a little over two million and my work units completed a little over 400. My off-the-shelf machine is simply not that powerful. I'm basically just donating spare cycles when I'm not seriously using it (running the folder at full power drags down anything involving rapid screen updates). What I find more motivating is seeing actual results coming out of all these contributions people are making. How many work units does it take to complete an average project? 'Cause I have a feeling that I'm seeing the same project numbers that I saw at the start. Hundreds of millions of work units completed and apparently not done yet? That's discouraging. Hi teamtempest, the amount of WU in a project can vary greatly depending on the type of research it is. I would advise looking at the scientific papers published by the FAH team if you would like to see what ends up of the computational power! Some of them are quite interesting reads. They can take months to be peer reviewed though, so many of the covid papers are going to be quite some time out still. Those can be seen at Stanford's page before public release. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ June 18 edited June 18 I time traveled and double posted don't mind me. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 18 @cine_chris just to point one thing out I did refer to my local MC store not to everyone else. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ June 18 MightyMayfield said: I time traveled and double posted don't mind me. stop going around the sun at max warp in the Enterprise lol 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ June 19 edited June 19 Wow, triple post and a day later. Ouch. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ June 19 kmiller922 said: MightyMayfield said: I time traveled and double posted don't mind me. stop going around the sun at max warp in the Enterprise lol I suspect it has to do more with parallel processing on an overclocked brain. You are seeing the results of data mirroring (or data bleeding) across processors. We know Mayfield has been running super hot lately to put the numbers up. He needs to go take a swim in a cooling pond.  Followed by a couple of Corona's. (The beer, not the virus). Kirito 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 19 @kmiller922 Of the Top50 Folding teams MicroCenter was 7th for member retention.  Thinking it might be interesting to see how other teams retain folks. 3 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ June 24  Another huge milestone, 2B points for @MightyMayfield . I did a sprint self-challenge attempting to hit 200M points before MM hit 2B.  Yes, I lost, by 2M points, but I hit my top PPD 8.5M, now ranked in the top 4K & completed 2,500 WUs.  So, it was a worthwhile effort.  5 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ChrisHarshman ✭✭ June 24 Awesome!  Good job cine_chris 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter «1…9101112131415…20» Go Leave a Comment BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list Format Heading 1Heading 2 QuoteCodeSpoiler Emoji Url Image Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights Drop image/file Home • Announcements, News & LaunchesComment As ... Community Article How to Choose Parts for Your Custom Computer Build - Page 3 — Micro Center How to Choose Parts for Your Custom Computer Build «12345» Go Comments MrKlackers ✭ July 31 TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: I'm going to build a PC for gaming and I already have a few parts. I'll be playing intensive games and I need a computer that can handle that. I already have the motherboard and CPU Cooler (Just need a replacement Y-Split Cable) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X  GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 MoBo: ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB SSD Case: Rosewill Prism T ATX RAM: G.Skill Trident Z  PSU: Thermaltake  Toughpower GF1 650W 80+ Gold SLI/ CrossFire Ready Fully Modular Sorry about that last part, I didn't want to have to remember all that and write it. Do you think this computer could work well? I'll also be doing 3d Modeling and slicing for 3d printing. Would the CPU bottleneck the GPU. I dont think it would, but I dont really know all that much. I'm mainly worried about the parts not fitting together and the custom builder doesn't have all my parts. Everything should fit together and be compatible, although I would recommend the Ryzen 7 3700X over the 3800X. The 3800X is only very slightly better than the 3700X, maybe 1-2% at best, so it's really not worth the price increase. You won't notice the difference at all. Also keep in mind that the X470 you chose may require the BIOS to be updated to be compatible with the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs, check for a label on the box that says its Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready to confirm one way or the other on that.  Thanks, I decided to go with the 3800X due to it being on sale right now. Yes, the box for the MoBo does say 2nd Gen AMD Processors so I will have to update the BIOS.  Do you know how I would do that? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin July 31 MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: I'm going to build a PC for gaming and I already have a few parts. I'll be playing intensive games and I need a computer that can handle that. I already have the motherboard and CPU Cooler (Just need a replacement Y-Split Cable) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X  GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 MoBo: ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB SSD Case: Rosewill Prism T ATX RAM: G.Skill Trident Z  PSU: Thermaltake  Toughpower GF1 650W 80+ Gold SLI/ CrossFire Ready Fully Modular Sorry about that last part, I didn't want to have to remember all that and write it. Do you think this computer could work well? I'll also be doing 3d Modeling and slicing for 3d printing. Would the CPU bottleneck the GPU. I dont think it would, but I dont really know all that much. I'm mainly worried about the parts not fitting together and the custom builder doesn't have all my parts. Everything should fit together and be compatible, although I would recommend the Ryzen 7 3700X over the 3800X. The 3800X is only very slightly better than the 3700X, maybe 1-2% at best, so it's really not worth the price increase. You won't notice the difference at all. Also keep in mind that the X470 you chose may require the BIOS to be updated to be compatible with the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs, check for a label on the box that says its Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready to confirm one way or the other on that.  Thanks, I decided to go with the 3800X due to it being on sale right now. Yes, the box for the MoBo does say 2nd Gen AMD Processors so I will have to update the BIOS.  Do you know how I would do that? It looks like this board doesn't have the option to do a BIOS flashback without the use of a processor, so you would need to use a compatible first or second generation Ryzen CPU to do that update. If you don't have one, I think you should be able to contact AMD for a bootkit to do a BIOS update. We can also perform a BIOS update at our walk-in service desk in the store for $29.99 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MrKlackers ✭ August 1 TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: I'm going to build a PC for gaming and I already have a few parts. I'll be playing intensive games and I need a computer that can handle that. I already have the motherboard and CPU Cooler (Just need a replacement Y-Split Cable) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X  GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 MoBo: ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB SSD Case: Rosewill Prism T ATX RAM: G.Skill Trident Z  PSU: Thermaltake  Toughpower GF1 650W 80+ Gold SLI/ CrossFire Ready Fully Modular Sorry about that last part, I didn't want to have to remember all that and write it. Do you think this computer could work well? I'll also be doing 3d Modeling and slicing for 3d printing. Would the CPU bottleneck the GPU. I dont think it would, but I dont really know all that much. I'm mainly worried about the parts not fitting together and the custom builder doesn't have all my parts. Everything should fit together and be compatible, although I would recommend the Ryzen 7 3700X over the 3800X. The 3800X is only very slightly better than the 3700X, maybe 1-2% at best, so it's really not worth the price increase. You won't notice the difference at all. Also keep in mind that the X470 you chose may require the BIOS to be updated to be compatible with the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs, check for a label on the box that says its Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready to confirm one way or the other on that.  Thanks, I decided to go with the 3800X due to it being on sale right now. Yes, the box for the MoBo does say 2nd Gen AMD Processors so I will have to update the BIOS.  Do you know how I would do that? It looks like this board doesn't have the option to do a BIOS flashback without the use of a processor, so you would need to use a compatible first or second generation Ryzen CPU to do that update. If you don't have one, I think you should be able to contact AMD for a bootkit to do a BIOS update. We can also perform a BIOS update at our walk-in service desk in the store for $29.99 Would the walk-in service still be available during the virus? How would that work? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 1 MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: I'm going to build a PC for gaming and I already have a few parts. I'll be playing intensive games and I need a computer that can handle that. I already have the motherboard and CPU Cooler (Just need a replacement Y-Split Cable) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X  GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 MoBo: ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB SSD Case: Rosewill Prism T ATX RAM: G.Skill Trident Z  PSU: Thermaltake  Toughpower GF1 650W 80+ Gold SLI/ CrossFire Ready Fully Modular Sorry about that last part, I didn't want to have to remember all that and write it. Do you think this computer could work well? I'll also be doing 3d Modeling and slicing for 3d printing. Would the CPU bottleneck the GPU. I dont think it would, but I dont really know all that much. I'm mainly worried about the parts not fitting together and the custom builder doesn't have all my parts. Everything should fit together and be compatible, although I would recommend the Ryzen 7 3700X over the 3800X. The 3800X is only very slightly better than the 3700X, maybe 1-2% at best, so it's really not worth the price increase. You won't notice the difference at all. Also keep in mind that the X470 you chose may require the BIOS to be updated to be compatible with the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs, check for a label on the box that says its Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready to confirm one way or the other on that.  Thanks, I decided to go with the 3800X due to it being on sale right now. Yes, the box for the MoBo does say 2nd Gen AMD Processors so I will have to update the BIOS.  Do you know how I would do that? It looks like this board doesn't have the option to do a BIOS flashback without the use of a processor, so you would need to use a compatible first or second generation Ryzen CPU to do that update. If you don't have one, I think you should be able to contact AMD for a bootkit to do a BIOS update. We can also perform a BIOS update at our walk-in service desk in the store for $29.99 Would the walk-in service still be available during the virus? How would that work? Our service desks are open and are currently able to perform BIOS updates. You can just bring the board in and explain what you need and we'll take it from there. Provided the service desk isn't really really busy it's something we can typically do same-day.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter FIVES ✭ August 1 Hey everybody, I’m a first time PC builder looking to make a good PC gaming/work computer and need some help. These are the parts that I looked into. Anything that I should know about the parts that I picked (pros/cons)? Are these parts good? Should I not get these parts? Do ya’ll recommend different parts and if so which ones? I’m not too worried about price, I can always save up, but if the runners up option is a close competition and is cheaper and compatible then I’d greatly appreciate that. I’m looking to play games like Star Citizen, COD, Destiny 2, GTA and VR games without having to worry about those games pushing my computer too far and or bricking it. ~ Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card  ~ Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme ~ CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X ~ CPU fan: Thermaltake Gravity i2 95W Intel LGA   ~ Exhaust Fan x2: Corsair LL series LL 120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Single Pack-White   ~ RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB DDR4-3600MHz ~ Power Supply: CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS ~ Storage: WD Black SN750 1TB. ~ Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A PH-EC400ATG_DWT01 White Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  Is this a good build? Should I change, add or take out anything?  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 1 FIVES said: Hey everybody, I’m a first time PC builder looking to make a good PC gaming/work computer and need some help. These are the parts that I looked into. Anything that I should know about the parts that I picked (pros/cons)? Are these parts good? Should I not get these parts? Do ya’ll recommend different parts and if so which ones? I’m not too worried about price, I can always save up, but if the runners up option is a close competition and is cheaper and compatible then I’d greatly appreciate that. I’m looking to play games like Star Citizen, COD, Destiny 2, GTA and VR games without having to worry about those games pushing my computer too far and or bricking it. ~ Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card  ~ Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme ~ CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X ~ CPU fan: Thermaltake Gravity i2 95W Intel LGA   ~ Exhaust Fan x2: Corsair LL series LL 120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Single Pack-White   ~ RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB DDR4-3600MHz ~ Power Supply: CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS ~ Storage: WD Black SN750 1TB. ~ Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A PH-EC400ATG_DWT01 White Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  Is this a good build? Should I change, add or take out anything?  It's a good build overall, but there's one part you definitely need to change. The CPU cooler you chose for this is way underpowered for a CPU like the 3950X. For a 3950X I would recommend a beefy Noctua cooler like the NH-D15 or a good 240mm AIO liquid cooler.  I'm also curious, besides playing games, are you doing anything else with the system that's heavily multi-thread reliant like 3D rendering, video editing or anything like that? If so, then the 3950X would be an awesome CPU, but if not, the 3950X is pretty overkill. If you're only gaming, you could get an i7-10700k or for much less and get better FPS for gaming.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter FIVES ✭ August 2 TSTonyV said: FIVES said: Hey everybody, I’m a first time PC builder looking to make a good PC gaming/work computer and need some help. These are the parts that I looked into. Anything that I should know about the parts that I picked (pros/cons)? Are these parts good? Should I not get these parts? Do ya’ll recommend different parts and if so which ones? I’m not too worried about price, I can always save up, but if the runners up option is a close competition and is cheaper and compatible then I’d greatly appreciate that. I’m looking to play games like Star Citizen, COD, Destiny 2, GTA and VR games without having to worry about those games pushing my computer too far and or bricking it. ~ Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card  ~ Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme ~ CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X ~ CPU fan: Thermaltake Gravity i2 95W Intel LGA   ~ Exhaust Fan x2: Corsair LL series LL 120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Single Pack-White   ~ RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB DDR4-3600MHz ~ Power Supply: CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS ~ Storage: WD Black SN750 1TB. ~ Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A PH-EC400ATG_DWT01 White Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  Is this a good build? Should I change, add or take out anything?  It's a good build overall, but there's one part you definitely need to change. The CPU cooler you chose for this is way underpowered for a CPU like the 3950X. For a 3950X I would recommend a beefy Noctua cooler like the NH-D15 or a good 240mm AIO liquid cooler.  I'm also curious, besides playing games, are you doing anything else with the system that's heavily multi-thread reliant like 3D rendering, video editing or anything like that? If so, then the 3950X would be an awesome CPU, but if not, the 3950X is pretty overkill. If you're only gaming, you could get an i7-10700k or for much less and get better FPS for gaming.  Thanks for the suggestion, i looked it up and i really like those parts, thank you so much. And to answer your question I wanna do video editing and app development and website development, since thats what I’m about to go to school for. So with that said, is the cpu and graphics card over kill?? I’m not gonna lie, I feel like it is but I wanna get a second opinion on it.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter FIVES ✭ August 2 Also can I do a 120mm fan for that CPU or do you think that a 140mm fan would be better? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter fenrirsbane7 ✭ August 3 edited August 3 Hey there, I was hoping for a little guidance on my build. I have close to zero experience with all the components and spent most of the past few days trying to research in order to learn more, but do not feel 100% secure in submitting the build as I am unsure if I am overkilling it or cutting it in some areas. PC will be used for gaming, specifically COD, Overwatch, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord as well as future games (such as Cyberpunk/AC Valhalla) . Also possibly using it for some data science at some point. Hoping to future-proof it as well so if needed I can upgrade it. Would also accept any suggestions for monitors that work well with the build without being overkill. Thanks! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 3 edited August 3 FIVES said: TSTonyV said: FIVES said: Hey everybody, I’m a first time PC builder looking to make a good PC gaming/work computer and need some help. These are the parts that I looked into. Anything that I should know about the parts that I picked (pros/cons)? Are these parts good? Should I not get these parts? Do ya’ll recommend different parts and if so which ones? I’m not too worried about price, I can always save up, but if the runners up option is a close competition and is cheaper and compatible then I’d greatly appreciate that. I’m looking to play games like Star Citizen, COD, Destiny 2, GTA and VR games without having to worry about those games pushing my computer too far and or bricking it. ~ Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card  ~ Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme ~ CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X ~ CPU fan: Thermaltake Gravity i2 95W Intel LGA   ~ Exhaust Fan x2: Corsair LL series LL 120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Single Pack-White   ~ RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB DDR4-3600MHz ~ Power Supply: CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS ~ Storage: WD Black SN750 1TB. ~ Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A PH-EC400ATG_DWT01 White Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  Is this a good build? Should I change, add or take out anything?  It's a good build overall, but there's one part you definitely need to change. The CPU cooler you chose for this is way underpowered for a CPU like the 3950X. For a 3950X I would recommend a beefy Noctua cooler like the NH-D15 or a good 240mm AIO liquid cooler.  I'm also curious, besides playing games, are you doing anything else with the system that's heavily multi-thread reliant like 3D rendering, video editing or anything like that? If so, then the 3950X would be an awesome CPU, but if not, the 3950X is pretty overkill. If you're only gaming, you could get an i7-10700k or for much less and get better FPS for gaming.  Thanks for the suggestion, i looked it up and i really like those parts, thank you so much. And to answer your question I wanna do video editing and app development and website development, since thats what I’m about to go to school for. So with that said, is the cpu and graphics card over kill?? I’m not gonna lie, I feel like it is but I wanna get a second opinion on it.  FIVES said: Also can I do a 120mm fan for that CPU or do you think that a 140mm fan would be better? For video editing, it depends on exactly what programs you're using and some other factors. Puget Systems has a good overview on the Intel vs Ryzen debate with regards to video editing. The 10th gen intel chips weren't around at that time, so just keep that in mind as with 10th gen Intel added hyper-threading back in. Some of the situations where Ryzen came ahead because of thread counts are not as clear cut as they were with 9th gen. In scenarios that are very single-thread bound the 3950X would probably lose to 10700k/10900k, but in any situation that can use more cores/threads it will wipe the floor with them. The 3950X would be an excellent CPU no matter what you do, it's really just about the price you're willing to pay for a CPU.  With regards to app and website development, I'm not quite as knowledgeable, but I believe it's the same scenario. Depending on exactly what you're doing, different software and code compilers will be optimized differently. Some are very well optimized for multi-core performance in which case there's no question, you go Ryzen. Some are designed specifically for Intel's architecture and using AMD will severely hinder performance. You'll need to do some research on this front.  I would only call the CPU and graphics cards "overkill" if you were out of your budget or were playing really light titles, but I think you're in a good spot in regards to building a high end system for the kinds of games you want to play.  If you're looking for a 120MM cooler for the CPU, I'd recommend the Noctua NH-U12A. We don't carry it unfortunately, but it's probably the best 120MM sized cooler available right now.  fenrirsbane7 said: Hey there, I was hoping for a little guidance on my build. I have close to zero experience with all the components and spent most of the past few days trying to research in order to learn more, but do not feel 100% secure in submitting the build as I am unsure if I am overkilling it or cutting it in some areas. PC will be used for gaming, specifically COD, Overwatch, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord as well as future games (such as Cyberpunk/AC Valhalla) . Also possibly using it for some data science at some point. Hoping to future-proof it as well so if needed I can upgrade it. Would also accept any suggestions for monitors that work well with the build without being overkill. Thanks! It's a pretty good build overall, though when you say you might use it for data science, I think you should do some research on that to see what situations are optimized for what hardware. I think (emphasis on think, as I don't know much about data science and "data science" is a very broad concept) a good rule of thumb for data science related things would be AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU, but that's going to depend on your exact use case. I think you should do some research in this area.  For gaming specifically, you could jump down to the Ryzen 5 3600, go with a slightly cheaper motherboard and upgrade your GPU if you wanted. The 5600XT GPU is good for 1080p gaming and should handle most titles at high settings 60+ FPS without much issue, but if you make the changes for CPU and GPU, you could jump up to 2060 Super/RX 5700 XT territory and get a nice performance boost.  For monitors, if you're good with 24" sized monitors, a good 1080p/144Hz option is what I'd go with: https://www.microcenter.com/product/621972/msi-optix-g241-238-1920-x-1080-144hz-hdmi-dp-freesync-ips-led-gaming-monitor https://www.microcenter.com/product/624240/asus-vp249qgr-238-full-hd-144hz-hdmi-dp-vga-freesync--low-motion-blur-ips-led-gaming-monito 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter fenrirsbane7 ✭ August 4 fenrirsbane7 said: Hey there, I was hoping for a little guidance on my build. I have close to zero experience with all the components and spent most of the past few days trying to research in order to learn more, but do not feel 100% secure in submitting the build as I am unsure if I am overkilling it or cutting it in some areas. PC will be used for gaming, specifically COD, Overwatch, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord as well as future games (such as Cyberpunk/AC Valhalla) . Also possibly using it for some data science at some point. Hoping to future-proof it as well so if needed I can upgrade it. Would also accept any suggestions for monitors that work well with the build without being overkill. Thanks! It's a pretty good build overall, though when you say you might use it for data science, I think you should do some research on that to see what situations are optimized for what hardware. I think (emphasis on think, as I don't know much about data science and "data science" is a very broad concept) a good rule of thumb for data science related things would be AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU, but that's going to depend on your exact use case. I think you should do some research in this area.  For gaming specifically, you could jump down to the Ryzen 5 3600, go with a slightly cheaper motherboard and upgrade your GPU if you wanted. The 5600XT GPU is good for 1080p gaming and should handle most titles at high settings 60+ FPS without much issue, but if you make the changes for CPU and GPU, you could jump up to 2060 Super/RX 5700 XT territory and get a nice performance boost.  For monitors, if you're good with 24" sized monitors, a good 1080p/144Hz option is what I'd go with: https://www.microcenter.com/product/621972/msi-optix-g241-238-1920-x-1080-144hz-hdmi-dp-freesync-ips-led-gaming-monitor https://www.microcenter.com/product/624240/asus-vp249qgr-238-full-hd-144hz-hdmi-dp-vga-freesync--low-motion-blur-ips-led-gaming-monito Hey thank you for the quick response!  I made some changes to the build using your suggestions, specifically lowering the CPU and motherboard, and upping the GPU. Also decreased the RAM from 32GB to 16GB after doing a bit more research and will not be focusing this build on data science. Does the new build make sense? Also do I need to worry about getting any of the CPU cooling parts? I will most likely go with your asus suggestion for a monitor. Thank you! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 4 fenrirsbane7 said: fenrirsbane7 said: Hey there, I was hoping for a little guidance on my build. I have close to zero experience with all the components and spent most of the past few days trying to research in order to learn more, but do not feel 100% secure in submitting the build as I am unsure if I am overkilling it or cutting it in some areas. PC will be used for gaming, specifically COD, Overwatch, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord as well as future games (such as Cyberpunk/AC Valhalla) . Also possibly using it for some data science at some point. Hoping to future-proof it as well so if needed I can upgrade it. Would also accept any suggestions for monitors that work well with the build without being overkill. Thanks! It's a pretty good build overall, though when you say you might use it for data science, I think you should do some research on that to see what situations are optimized for what hardware. I think (emphasis on think, as I don't know much about data science and "data science" is a very broad concept) a good rule of thumb for data science related things would be AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU, but that's going to depend on your exact use case. I think you should do some research in this area.  For gaming specifically, you could jump down to the Ryzen 5 3600, go with a slightly cheaper motherboard and upgrade your GPU if you wanted. The 5600XT GPU is good for 1080p gaming and should handle most titles at high settings 60+ FPS without much issue, but if you make the changes for CPU and GPU, you could jump up to 2060 Super/RX 5700 XT territory and get a nice performance boost.  For monitors, if you're good with 24" sized monitors, a good 1080p/144Hz option is what I'd go with: https://www.microcenter.com/product/621972/msi-optix-g241-238-1920-x-1080-144hz-hdmi-dp-freesync-ips-led-gaming-monitor https://www.microcenter.com/product/624240/asus-vp249qgr-238-full-hd-144hz-hdmi-dp-vga-freesync--low-motion-blur-ips-led-gaming-monito Hey thank you for the quick response!  I made some changes to the build using your suggestions, specifically lowering the CPU and motherboard, and upping the GPU. Also decreased the RAM from 32GB to 16GB after doing a bit more research and will not be focusing this build on data science. Does the new build make sense? Also do I need to worry about getting any of the CPU cooling parts? I will most likely go with your asus suggestion for a monitor. Thank you! I'd say this is a pretty solid build! The Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 5700XT is a good combination. Besides some things that I'd change just based on personal preference, I don't have any problems with what you put together, except that the Lancool II doesn't have an optical drive slot for that DVD burner.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MrKlackers ✭ August 5 TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: TSTonyV said: MrKlackers said: I'm going to build a PC for gaming and I already have a few parts. I'll be playing intensive games and I need a computer that can handle that. I already have the motherboard and CPU Cooler (Just need a replacement Y-Split Cable) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X  GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 MoBo: ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB SSD: WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB SSD Case: Rosewill Prism T ATX RAM: G.Skill Trident Z  PSU: Thermaltake  Toughpower GF1 650W 80+ Gold SLI/ CrossFire Ready Fully Modular Sorry about that last part, I didn't want to have to remember all that and write it. Do you think this computer could work well? I'll also be doing 3d Modeling and slicing for 3d printing. Would the CPU bottleneck the GPU. I dont think it would, but I dont really know all that much. I'm mainly worried about the parts not fitting together and the custom builder doesn't have all my parts. Everything should fit together and be compatible, although I would recommend the Ryzen 7 3700X over the 3800X. The 3800X is only very slightly better than the 3700X, maybe 1-2% at best, so it's really not worth the price increase. You won't notice the difference at all. Also keep in mind that the X470 you chose may require the BIOS to be updated to be compatible with the 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs, check for a label on the box that says its Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready to confirm one way or the other on that.  Thanks, I decided to go with the 3800X due to it being on sale right now. Yes, the box for the MoBo does say 2nd Gen AMD Processors so I will have to update the BIOS.  Do you know how I would do that? It looks like this board doesn't have the option to do a BIOS flashback without the use of a processor, so you would need to use a compatible first or second generation Ryzen CPU to do that update. If you don't have one, I think you should be able to contact AMD for a bootkit to do a BIOS update. We can also perform a BIOS update at our walk-in service desk in the store for $29.99 Would the walk-in service still be available during the virus? How would that work? Our service desks are open and are currently able to perform BIOS updates. You can just bring the board in and explain what you need and we'll take it from there. Provided the service desk isn't really really busy it's something we can typically do same-day.   Thank you for answering all my questions, I went to Micro Center today and got the BIOS updated in about an hour. Now I'm just waiting for the rest of the parts to be delivered from Amazon. Thanks again! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter AlexS admin August 6 Thank you for answering all my questions, I went to Micro Center today and got the BIOS updated in about an hour. Now I'm just waiting for the rest of the parts to be delivered from Amazon. Thanks again! We hope you share your completed build here on Community when you're done!  We'd like to see it! https://community.microcenter.com/categories/pc-builds And also! Micro Center Community has partnered with Logitech and Twitch Streamer DrLupo to give you an opportunity to win some awesome Logitech peripherals!  Find out some more information here!  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter A_Human_Person ✭ August 8 Hello, I am a student that is trying to build a computer for science research, specifically machine learning. A teacher/mentor has advised me to pick a CPU that has the highest clock speed affordable as well as some other specs, but there are just so many options! I am completely new to computer building, and when looking at the components with the specs I need, there are just too many. Here are the things I need: 64GB Memory, 2TB SSD, NVidia GForce 2080Ti for GPU/Graphics card. The rest were not specified, but I am also having trouble choosing the motherboard and the power source. It would be really good if you helped! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 8 A_Human_Person said: Hello, I am a student that is trying to build a computer for science research, specifically machine learning. A teacher/mentor has advised me to pick a CPU that has the highest clock speed affordable as well as some other specs, but there are just so many options! I am completely new to computer building, and when looking at the components with the specs I need, there are just too many. Here are the things I need: 64GB Memory, 2TB SSD, NVidia GForce 2080Ti for GPU/Graphics card. The rest were not specified, but I am also having trouble choosing the motherboard and the power source. It would be really good if you helped! If what you need is "the highest clock speed affordable" that's just another way of saying "buy the highest end Intel chip you can afford." If we're already talking 2080ti/64GB of RAM, then I'll just assume your budget can probably fit the other really high end stuff. In your case, the fastest clock speed you'll get is out of the i9-10900k. Depending on what kind of features you want what motherboard you go with can be flexible. I'd go with something like this: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=7273de4b-7b9c-4cb1-af3b-59b57e7517af If this is out of your budget, can you specify what kind of price range you're in so we can tailor the recommendations accordingly? 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Bros3ph_Gaming ✭ August 8 Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 8 Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Bros3ph_Gaming ✭ August 8 edited August 8 TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Sorry I have a follow up question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. And, should I stick with Ryzen 5 3600, or go straight for the Ryzen 9 3900X if I’m planning on upgrading the CPU a year from now? Specially with all the deals that are going on with Ryzen chips. As a dedicated streaming build, this will be used for editing my streaming videos as well. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 8 Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Last question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. They'll both be equally future proof for most people. There's some specific differences between X570 and B550, but for the average user they don't really matter. If you want to read more about them, Gamers Nexus has a good technical breakdown here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Bros3ph_Gaming ✭ August 8 TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Last question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. They'll both be equally future proof for most people. There's some specific differences between X570 and B550, but for the average user they don't really matter. If you want to read more about them, Gamers Nexus has a good technical breakdown here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3 Sorry seems like I edited my prior comment too late. I have a follow up question, should I go straight for Ryzen 3900X instead of 3600? With all the deals going on with Ryzen chips, and also if I’m planning to eventually upgrade the 3600. I read that more cores means better rendering which streaming takes advantage of, and specially if I’m planning to use this build for some editing. Or is 3900X an overkill for the purpose? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 8 Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Last question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. They'll both be equally future proof for most people. There's some specific differences between X570 and B550, but for the average user they don't really matter. If you want to read more about them, Gamers Nexus has a good technical breakdown here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3 Sorry seems like I edited my prior comment too late. I have a follow up question, should I go straight for Ryzen 3900X instead of 3600? With all the deals going on with Ryzen chips, and also if I’m planning to eventually upgrade the 3600. I read that more cores means better rendering which streaming takes advantage of, and specially if I’m planning to use this build for some editing. Or is 3900X an overkill for the purpose? So the thing about streaming is that there are two different types: software and hardware. Software encoding will utilize CPU resources and yes, more cores and threads will be helpful in that respect. However, you don't need a 3900X just for streaming, depending on how high quality you want to stream in. As an example, I have a 3700X in my system and I stream at 720p/60FPS at x264 Medium. In the most CPU intensive games I play I still usually only hit 60-70% CPU utilization at most. Streaming is a task that does like more cores/threads, but it's dependent on some other factors and after a certain point you do hit diminishing returns.  If you plan on using hardware encoding to stream, then you'll be utilizing your GPU instead of the CPU and those extra cores won't really matter for gaming.  For video editing, it's a bit of a different discussion. That's going to depend on the specific program you plan to use. In general for video editing and rendering more cores will equate to better performance, but some programs and use cases may be optimized more for single-threaded performance. You'll need to do a little research on that front but if that's something you definitely plan to get into later, the 3900X is definitely a good all around pick.  You say you're planning on turning this into a dedicated streaming PC later, does that mean you would use your main PC as your editing/gaming PC when you get into editing later? And do you know what kind of setup you'd have for the main PC? 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Bros3ph_Gaming ✭ August 8 TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Last question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. They'll both be equally future proof for most people. There's some specific differences between X570 and B550, but for the average user they don't really matter. If you want to read more about them, Gamers Nexus has a good technical breakdown here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3 Sorry seems like I edited my prior comment too late. I have a follow up question, should I go straight for Ryzen 3900X instead of 3600? With all the deals going on with Ryzen chips, and also if I’m planning to eventually upgrade the 3600. I read that more cores means better rendering which streaming takes advantage of, and specially if I’m planning to use this build for some editing. Or is 3900X an overkill for the purpose? So the thing about streaming is that there are two different types: software and hardware. Software encoding will utilize CPU resources and yes, more cores and threads will be helpful in that respect. However, you don't need a 3900X just for streaming, depending on how high quality you want to stream in. As an example, I have a 3700X in my system and I stream at 720p/60FPS at x264 Medium. In the most CPU intensive games I play I still usually only hit 60-70% CPU utilization at most. Streaming is a task that does like more cores/threads, but it's dependent on some other factors and after a certain point you do hit diminishing returns.  If you plan on using hardware encoding to stream, then you'll be utilizing your GPU instead of the CPU and those extra cores won't really matter for gaming.  For video editing, it's a bit of a different discussion. That's going to depend on the specific program you plan to use. In general for video editing and rendering more cores will equate to better performance, but some programs and use cases may be optimized more for single-threaded performance. You'll need to do a little research on that front but if that's something you definitely plan to get into later, the 3900X is definitely a good all around pick.  You say you're planning on turning this into a dedicated streaming PC later, does that mean you would use your main PC as your editing/gaming PC when you get into editing later? And do you know what kind of setup you'd have for the main PC? Yup I am planning on using the hardware encoding so I don’t need to shell out on a more expensive CPU, I was just not sure if the 3600 will be enough. Yup, my future main pc will be the editing/gaming pc. So far I have not thought of the build yet, but from what I have seen, many high end gaming pc runs on a intel based setup. I was actually planning on asking for help from the community again when the time comes. I really appreciate the answers, I now feel more confident that the 3600 paired with 2060 KO Ultra will be a great bang for the buck build. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 9 Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: TSTonyV said: Bros3ph_Gaming said: Hi! I’m new here in the community, and pretty much in PC building. I’m about to build my first PC, but I can’t decide if my plan build is  capable enough for my purpose. So I’m planning to use my build for streaming and gaming. I play bunch of FPS games, like Apex Legends and CoD Warzone, the same time I currently stream on 720p 30fps using OBS.Live. This will be my planned build: Ryzen 3600 - 16GB RAM 3600MHz - RTX 2060 Ultra KO - mobo B550 for future Ryzen chip compatibility I plan to eventually use this PC as a dedicated streaming PC, that’s why I do not want to spend too much on the GPU. My biggest concern is, will these be enough to game on high settings while streaming CoD Warzone or Apex Legends? Because if not, I will just go ahead on my original plan build which is, 3700X paired with RTX 2070 Super. Thanks much!! Yes, you should be able to get high settings 60FPS in most games you play if you're playing at 1080p with a 2060. On the really graphically intense games you may not be able to get more than 60FPS, but for CoD and Apex legends you should be able to get 100+.  If you're planning on staying at 720p/30FPS while streaming, then you'll have minimal in-game performance loss.  Thanks much! I do not want to over spec the build since my plan is to eventually turn this as a dedicated streaming pc. Last question, should I get B550 or X570? For a more future proof AMD MOBO. They'll both be equally future proof for most people. There's some specific differences between X570 and B550, but for the average user they don't really matter. If you want to read more about them, Gamers Nexus has a good technical breakdown here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3 Sorry seems like I edited my prior comment too late. I have a follow up question, should I go straight for Ryzen 3900X instead of 3600? With all the deals going on with Ryzen chips, and also if I’m planning to eventually upgrade the 3600. I read that more cores means better rendering which streaming takes advantage of, and specially if I’m planning to use this build for some editing. Or is 3900X an overkill for the purpose? So the thing about streaming is that there are two different types: software and hardware. Software encoding will utilize CPU resources and yes, more cores and threads will be helpful in that respect. However, you don't need a 3900X just for streaming, depending on how high quality you want to stream in. As an example, I have a 3700X in my system and I stream at 720p/60FPS at x264 Medium. In the most CPU intensive games I play I still usually only hit 60-70% CPU utilization at most. Streaming is a task that does like more cores/threads, but it's dependent on some other factors and after a certain point you do hit diminishing returns.  If you plan on using hardware encoding to stream, then you'll be utilizing your GPU instead of the CPU and those extra cores won't really matter for gaming.  For video editing, it's a bit of a different discussion. That's going to depend on the specific program you plan to use. In general for video editing and rendering more cores will equate to better performance, but some programs and use cases may be optimized more for single-threaded performance. You'll need to do a little research on that front but if that's something you definitely plan to get into later, the 3900X is definitely a good all around pick.  You say you're planning on turning this into a dedicated streaming PC later, does that mean you would use your main PC as your editing/gaming PC when you get into editing later? And do you know what kind of setup you'd have for the main PC? Yup I am planning on using the hardware encoding so I don’t need to shell out on a more expensive CPU, I was just not sure if the 3600 will be enough. Yup, my future main pc will be the editing/gaming pc. So far I have not thought of the build yet, but from what I have seen, many high end gaming pc runs on a intel based setup. I was actually planning on asking for help from the community again when the time comes. I really appreciate the answers, I now feel more confident that the 3600 paired with 2060 KO Ultra will be a great bang for the buck build. The 3600 is definitely enough, and with a 2060 it's a pretty good mid-range system, I think you'll be happy with it.  Most high-end gaming builds are Intel based since Intel still has the edge in raw single-core performance right now, and games still aren't great at multi-core utilization yet.  1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Spazack ✭ August 11 Hi. I'm looking to upgrade from my previous PC and I made this build I will link below. It is a little out of my price range so I was wondering if I could get the price down to around 1200 from 1400 without sacrificing much performance. Also, I am pretty new to building PC's as my friend pretty much built my entire previous PC with me just watching and not knowing what was going on. So, I am wondering if there are willing employees in the store that could just give me hints as to what to do or if I really need to spend the extra $150 plus on hiring someone. I have a decent idea of how to build but am just worried about messing up. Thanks! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-intel.aspx?load=69c20c68-741e-4fb2-9e51-52aab09772fd 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 11 Spazack said: I am pretty new to building PC's as my friend pretty much built my entire previous PC with me just watching and not knowing what was going on. So, I am wondering if there are willing employees in the store that could just give me hints as to what to do or if I really need to spend the extra $150 plus on hiring someone. I have a decent idea of how to build but am just worried about messing up. So, in my opinion building a PC isn't hard, it's just time consuming. It's really just electronic legos. As long as you can follow instructions and plug things into the right place, it's not hard.  The way I did it the first time was I just looked up a video guide on youtube, and followed it step by step. There are a LOT of good guides on youtube available so if it were me, I'd definitely go that route. Plus it's really satisfying to build your own system.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Gennik617 ✭ August 12 New to building pcs, have a slight clue on what i’m doing a need advice/recommendations on the build.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 Motherboard: ASUS B550M plus (wifi) TUF Gaming AMD Ram: G.Skill RipJawsV  VideoCard: Geforce RTX2060 Ko Ultra overclocked SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB Power Supply: Corsair RM650x 650 w Case: Lian Li 205 m Watercooling i’m still not too educated on, so i’m not sure if it’s necessary for this build. if so, recommend one to me please! My budget is gonna be 2000 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 12 Gennik617 said: New to building pcs, have a slight clue on what i’m doing a need advice/recommendations on the build.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 Motherboard: ASUS B550M plus (wifi) TUF Gaming AMD Ram: G.Skill RipJawsV  VideoCard: Geforce RTX2060 Ko Ultra overclocked SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB Power Supply: Corsair RM650x 650 w Case: Lian Li 205 m Watercooling i’m still not too educated on, so i’m not sure if it’s necessary for this build. if so, recommend one to me please! My budget is gonna be 2000 That's a good build to start off with, although with that budget you can definitely get more powerful parts.  Water cooling is a good solution if you have a processor that generates a lot of heat and has high power draw, think of processors like the i7-10700k, i9-10900k, Ryzen 9 3900x, etc... typically the more high end stuff. Mid-range stuff can also generate a lot of heat, like an overclocked i5-10600k, but generally as you go up the product stack heat increases. Water cooling is one of the better cooling solutions, but high end air coolers like the Noctua NH-D15 compete directly with water coolers. For a Ryzen 5 water cooling would not be required. The stock cooler that comes with them is adequate, but if you wanted an aftermarket cooler something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would be more than enough.  Custom liquid cooling is another beast entirely and very expensive.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter A_Human_Person ✭ August 13 TSTonyV said: A_Human_Person said: Hello, I am a student that is trying to build a computer for science research, specifically machine learning. A teacher/mentor has advised me to pick a CPU that has the highest clock speed affordable as well as some other specs, but there are just so many options! I am completely new to computer building, and when looking at the components with the specs I need, there are just too many. Here are the things I need: 64GB Memory, 2TB SSD, NVidia GForce 2080Ti for GPU/Graphics card. The rest were not specified, but I am also having trouble choosing the motherboard and the power source. It would be really good if you helped! If what you need is "the highest clock speed affordable" that's just another way of saying "buy the highest end Intel chip you can afford." If we're already talking 2080ti/64GB of RAM, then I'll just assume your budget can probably fit the other really high end stuff. In your case, the fastest clock speed you'll get is out of the i9-10900k. Depending on what kind of features you want what motherboard you go with can be flexible. I'd go with something like this: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=7273de4b-7b9c-4cb1-af3b-59b57e7517af If this is out of your budget, can you specify what kind of price range you're in so we can tailor the recommendations accordingly? Thank you for your reply! I was able to pick everything except the motherboard and GPU based on your recommendations. I heard that a new GPU (3080 3080 Ti) is coming out soon, so I think I will wait until it comes out. Do I still need to buy a video card in order for the computer to work? I saw that the CPU comes with some sort of graphics unit. I chose the motherboard that you selected, I am not too experienced with choosing components as this is my first time. I see that it has Wifi and is compatible with GPUs so I think it will be fine. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter SammyFox01 ✭ August 13 Hi there! I am looking for about a 3000$ build. I am looking to be able to somewhat future proof my setup. The games I am going to be playing mostly right now are the new cod (blackops coldwar?) apex legends, gtav and similar games. I am also wanting to stream or record and be able to edit videos without it taking a really long time to export 20 to 30 minute videos. Also I'd like integrated wifi and ethernet. I'm not super new to computer building but I'd like some help determining what would fit into my budget and needs . Thanks everyone!  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter «12345» Go Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article New PC Build Help — Micro Center New PC Build Help gms2257 ✭ August 26 edited August 27 in Help Choosing Parts I'm working on a new build and have some questions. I went through the 7 part series on the site on how to choose parts and changed some things around from another configuration I was working on. I tried calling the store a few times today but the hold queue was full. I was thinking of going in but I ran out of time. Here's the build.  https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=9663e30f-b83c-4201-a1d6-e92d64a583e4 Here's some background on what I will be using the machine for. I'm a full-time day trader and I put very heavy loads on my machine with multiple trading platforms, running other multiple programs, and a screen capture recording my screens during market hours. I’m a very heavy multitasker and put heavy loads on my machine. I will NOT be using this PC for any gaming. It’s strictly a work PC for heavy multitasking and day trading. The trading programs I use are Think or Swim, Scanz, Stocks To Trade, and Etrade Pro.  I was informed today by a tech at Think or Swim (one of the main trading platforms I use) to use this link below in choosing a graphic card. He said to choose from the upper blue/green area since the platform is very demanding. So I chose the GeForce RTX 2070 but not sure if I made the best choice. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-09-27-gpu-power-ladder-all-graphics-cards-tested Monitors I currently have: Two Acer S271 HL monitors https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-s271hl-led-monitor-full-hd-1080p-27/  One  40 Inch MU6290 4K TV https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/uhd-tvs/40-class-mu6290-4k-uhd-tv-un40mu6290fxza/.  I'm not currently using the MU6290 4K TV but may want to in the future. There's also slight possibility I may decided to get another MU6290 4K. If I do buy another one then the setup will be: One Acer S271 HL monitor https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-s271hl-led-monitor-full-hd-1080p-27/  Two 40 Inch MU6290 4K TV https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/uhd-tvs/40-class-mu6290-4k-uhd-tv-un40mu6290fxza/.  The questions I have are: 1. Processor: Is the AMD 3900 overkill for what I need and if it is does it make sense for the future? 2. Video Card: Is the GeForce RTX 2070 a good choice? Does it seem like overkill for my use? 3. Motherboard: Is the motherboard a good choice? I think it has wifi which I don't need but someone from another forum recommended it. I'm lost on this. 4. RAM: Does the 64GB of RAM make sense? Originally I was going to get 32GB but since Think or Swim is such a resource hog and it's recommended to put the settings to half your RAM. Theoretically it should only use what it needs. Are there any other benefits to having 64GB of RAM for my use? 5. GPU: I ordered the Seasonic 850 GPU today but received an email that it was out of stock so the order was replaced with Corsair RM850x 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply. Is that a good choice? 6. SSD Drive: I was told to get the NVMe M.2 drive for the main drive. I keep the bulk of my files on the D drive to keep the C drive clean basically with just programs and what's in my documents folder. That's why I chose two 500GB NVMe M.2 drives vs 1TB so that I could do that. Does this make sense and does it even matter anymore? In other words is there a benefit to doing this for performance or other reasons or should I just go with 1TB  500GB NVMe M.2 drive? Can I even have 2 NVMe M.2 drives? Will it affect anything performance wise? 7. Sata 3 Drives I chose 2 8TB Internal Drives for storage and backups. Will both these drives fit in the case and connect to the motherboard since I already have the two NVMe M.2 drives? 8. Case: Is this fractal design a good choice? Many recommended it. 9. Are the five P12 Fluid Dynamic Bearing 120mm Case Fans a good choice? 10. Is the Reaver CC-1101 CPU Cooler a good choice? Is this a good idea to have? 11. Any other thoughts or recommendations? If you've gotten this far you're probably exhausted so thanks so much for taking the time to read it. This build is very important to me since I daytrade for a living and I also need a powerful machine for all the multitasking I do. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments TSPhillipT admin August 27 Hello @gms2257 I have moved your thread to a more suitable category.   I disagree with the tech that you spoke with earlier in regards to picking the proper Video Card.  Unless you are doing in depth Stock Analysis and are grinding data and logarithms, you don't need a high end Video Card.  The link the tech provided you was for benchmarking Video Cards playing games at a 1440p Resolution.  This doesn't reflect any actual performance gains while using multiple stock trading applications. The main thing you will want to make sure your video card has are ports that match your monitors/TVs.  I see you are looking at using monitors/TVs that have HDMI as their main connection... most video cards will rarely have 3 HDMI Slots.  It's more common for Video Cards to have DisplayPorts rather than HDMI ports.  You are likely to use an adapter that converts DisplayPort to HDMI, just make sure you get a good adapter that promotes 4K Resolution.   Going into answering each question now; 1.) The 3900X is a great processor for stock trading.  It boasts a high amount of cores and threads that will assist with multitasking the multiple stock trading programs you have as well as computing calculations with high clock speeds.  It leaves room for extra multitasking and futureproofing as well. 2.) Video card question was answered above mainly.  2070 will work of course, but it is definitely not needed unless you are more into stock analyzing and number crunching.  You can definitely go to a lower model of graphics card, like an Nvidia 1650 or 1660. 3.) Your motherboard is like the skeleton for the build, and it's the base.  Your motherboard doesn't have a large impact in performance, it just decides what parts you can use on it.  After picking your processor and RAM that work with the motherboard and their Chipset, you begin looking at things like integrated WiFi/Bluetooth or 10GB Lan Ports, or other small changes with the motherboard.  There is very little differences between motherboards besides additional features as listed above.  I think the motherboard you picked is fine. 4.) 64Gb is what I would recommend when it comes to heavy multitasking.  I am unsure why would you limit your RAM to half, I would let it eat up more RAM if it allows for faster loading and storage of data sets.  The benefit for more RAM is the ability to store more data in higher speed storage temporarily, including large data sets for stock trading.  They also allow for more multitasking.   5.) Your PSU (Power Supply Unit) is fine and doesn't have major changes between brand.  The 80+ Standard shows efficiencies for the Power Supply, with the higher rating, the less your computer affects your electricity bill.  You can go to a lower wattage if you change to a weaker Video Card. 6.) There isn't a very large benefit in having 2 M.2 Drives.  The biggest benefit is the ability to Write and Read from the second drive very very very fast.  This mainly applies to video editing, where you can grab large 4K-8K Files from a second drive and write/save your video back onto the secondary drive.  In my opinion, I would just do the 1 500GB M.2 SSD and have the 2 8TB Drives on the side.  7.) Curious, does Stock Trading take up that much storage?  I'm not sure on the storage side of this.  For back ups, I understand however you can usually do a 2TB or 4TB drive for back up and still have more than enough storage generally.  You will receive wires/cords to connect and power the Hard Drives.   8.) Fractal Design is a great case brand, especially the Meshify C.  Very good airflow and keeps things inside nice and cool.   9.) These are solid Fans, no issues with them.  You may need to get a Fan Hub or Fan Splitters as there are enough Fan Headers on the motherboard to connect all these Fans.   10.) It's a good cooler, however it's more commonly used in ITX Builds.  ITX means a very cramp and small build since it is a low profile cooler.  Your processor does come with it's own CPU Cooler and it's what I would recommend using rather than another Air Cooler.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 Thank you @TSPhillipT so much for all this info. I updated the build to your suggestions and have a question regarding the memory. Hopefully I can have this wrapped up soon and have it built at microcenter today or tomorrow. Here's the new build. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=d16d4afe-90fe-4bdd-a43d-9fa1c20bbc64 The only thing missing from the build is the cooler which I ordered from Amazon and will have today.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C9FLSLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've read and heard so many conflicting things about this and I'm not sure what to do. I doubt I'll ever need more than 64GB but some say it's better to leave 2 slots open for a less expensive upgrade just in case.  It's also $60 less to get 2 sticks of 32GB vs 4 16GB but I'm mostly concerned about performance and if it will make a difference with the motherboard or anything else. Here's both options and the motherboard. Thank you. https://www.microcenter.com/product/623520/gskill-ripjaws-v-64gb-(2-x-32gb)-ddr4-3600-pc4-28800-cl18-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-f4-3600c18d-64gvk---black https://www.microcenter.com/quickViewConfigurator2020/625143/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac-amd-am4-atx-motherboard Thank you again for your help! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSPhillipT admin August 28 Build looks good!   I recommend going with the 2 sticks of 32GB.  The benefits for going with 4x RAM sticks are if your system supports Quad Channel RAM which your motherboard does not support, you would be getting the same speeds as the 2 sticks of 32GB.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 @TSPhillipT Thank you! Sorry just one more question to finalize is the motherboard. Do you think the Gigabyte B550 AORUS Pro AC AMD AM4 ATX Motherboard or ASUS X570-Pro Prime AMD AM4 ATX Motherboard is better for my use?  Again I'm getting a lot of different info and not sure which to buy. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 28 The primary difference between the two boards is that the X570-Pro Prime has all PCIe 4.0 slots, whereas the B550 Aorus Pro has one and the rest are PCIe 3.0 instead. The X570 also has two USB 3.1 Gen1 headers internally where the B550 only has one. However the B550 does come with WiFi built in.  Unless you have specific needs for those extra features on the X570, then there's no practical difference between. They'll perform the same. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 Ok great thanks. I was reading on a custom trading computer site that's been in business over 10 years that doesn't use anything other than Asus because of reliability they said and just about every part in this build they use and I got multiple confirmations from different places including you that the parts look good. So I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something in the motherboard especially since everything is connecting to it. I see that the B550 was released this year vs last year for the x570 so I guess the newer technology is an advantage too. As far as the thing you mentioned with the differences I'm guessing they probably won't matter to me. Maybe the extra 4.0 PCIE slots if I wanted to add another video card or something (not even sure what) would make a slight difference but maybe not even noticeable to me.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 28 B550 and X570 are built on the same kind of technology actually, the X570 just released first is all. B550 is kind of the "budget" option compared to X570. It lacks a few of the features X570 has but those features don't make a difference for most users, like PCIe 4.0. On that note, PCIe 4.0 likely won't make any significant performance differences for you either, even in the future since what you're doing doesn't really rely on PCIe bandwidth. Unless you're planning on using PCIe 4.0 M.2 drives and doing a LOT of high-capacity data transfer across those lanes at some point.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 edited August 28 Thanks for that info. That helps me understand better. I don't plan on doing what you're doing with M.2 Drives. That actually brings up another point. I was originally going to go with 2 M.2 Drives (in question #6) but I decided against it because there seemed to be an issue with having 2 of the M.2  I was told it's better to have just one because of less PCIe chatter. Someone else told me it's better to have 1TB anyway because when the drive starts to fill up it becomes slower. The reason I was going to have a 2nd was because I was told many years ago it's better to have all data on a data d drive to keep the c drive clean. So that's what I've been doing since 2004. Now I'm wondering if I can get an additional 2.5 SSD to use as a  data D drive in this setup  (not the M.2 but a 2.5 SSD) to to keep the C drive 1TB M.2 cleaner Is it beneficial to to keep the 1TB M.2 cleaner and have a 2.5 SSD drive for a data D drive? Or am I just overthinking this whole thing and not even matter anymore to keep the C drive clean these days?  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 edited August 28 I just went and found what someone told me so if I didn't explain it correctly reading below should. Again, I 'm mainly concerned with causing more issues by introducing a 2.5 SSD data D drive and if it doesn't even matter. "SSDs increase in performance by size, and decrease in performance when they get closer to full. So a 1TB Evo will outperform the 500GB Evo. Less PCIe chatter with a single fast nVME is also preferable to multiple drives if you don't need to." "You can manually map the various profile folders to other locations easily (desktop, documents, downloads, music, pictures, and video folders). I usually do this for people with smaller SSDs. For you I'd probably recommend a mix, setting only download, music, and video to remap to \Profile\etc for example. This means anything that goes into those folders doesn't have to be manually moved off your SSD after the fact, it's just seamless. But your documents and any desktop items you're working with are stored on the SSD for max performance. And leaving open nVME slots is optimal for later expansions." "I would recommend going with an x570 motherboard if you're going to be running 2x Samsung 970. Fyi, the B550 aorus pro uses the pcie x4 electrical slot bandwidth for the 2nd m2 drive, so you won't be able to use that slot for much if you go with that board." 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 28 "I would recommend going with an x570 motherboard if you're going to be running 2x Samsung 970. Fyi, the B550 aorus pro uses the pcie x4 electrical slot bandwidth for the 2nd m2 drive, so you won't be able to use that slot for much if you go with that board." 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 28 edited August 28 I'd say if you can get the same thing with one part that you'd otherwise get with two, then there's no reason to buy the multiple parts. You save some space to leave room open for future expansion. I would only go with multiple drives if I specifically wanted to look for some kind of RAID setup or simply because I was running out of storage on my existing drives and needed to add more. Or if I wanted to have a dedicated drive for backup purposes.  Running an extra 2.5" SATA drive won't negatively effect your performance on an NVMe drive.  I don't know enough about the wiring/PCIe setup on these boards to make a comment about the lanes or operating in x4 mode vs not, but it doesn't hurt to have features you don't use. Better to have it and not use it than to need it and not have it.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter gms2257 ✭ August 29 Ok that makes things easier for me thanks. I'm just going to stick with the 1TB M.2. I guess the days of keeping data on a 2nd D drive to keep the c drive clean to perform better are gone. Also, all my backups are going on the 8tb drives so I was only going to use the 2.5 Sata for storing the files I work on most, which I'll probably benefit from having on the M.2 performance wise. Thanks for all your help. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Ian admin August 29 You're welcome! Please let us know if you have any other questions.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment. Community Article (Closed) Streaming Must-haves Contest - Enter for your chance to WIN a $200 gift card! — Micro Center (Closed) Streaming Must-haves Contest - Enter for your chance to WIN a $200 gift card! LandShark admin August 28 edited October 5 in Announcements, News & Launches Hello All! Did you know we have a streaming studio builder so you can get all the gear you need to stream? To begin building your own Streamer Setup, choose one of the suggested configurations - or go straight to a full, wide-open option. You'll be able to modify/customize elements from any of the suggested configurations throughout the process. Stardom is just around the corner, use our new Streaming Studio Builder to help you get there! To enter this contest, reply to this post and follow these steps. Use our Streaming Studio Builder to make your streaming Wishlist and share it with us (see directions below to copy the URL) Post a photo of your streaming set up and must-have streaming product – could be webcam, mic, headset, Stream Deck, etc Explain what type of streaming you use it for (on Twitch, for zoom, etc.) Explain why your chosen streaming accessory is a must-have Use our Streaming Studio Builder, add the streaming accessories you have, and then add the accessories you want! You can modify/customer your selection of components easily by selecting the "Change" button, as seen below. If you're interested in adding another similar item, you can use the "Select Additional" button. Once you've completed your list, you can save and share it by clicking the icon (outlined in red) of your preferred platform or copy the link to paste wherever you'd like! We created this tool to give you a head start on the road to becoming the next top streamer! We're here to help as well. If you have questions about what you need to get the perfect streaming setup, don't hesitate to ask us! We want to know what accessory you can't stream without. What's your must-have streaming accessory? How would you describe yourself as a streamer? Are you a beginner, intermediate, or pro? Perhaps you're something else? You tell us! Plug your stream, share your zoom setup. When you're streaming what's most important to you? Be sure to check out our PC Showcase contest for another chance to win big! A randomly selected winner will receive a $200 gift card Contest begins 12:01 am ET on September 1st, 2020 Contest ends 11:59 pm ET on September 30th, 2020. The winner will be contacted in the first week of October See attached contest terms and conditions. Streaming Must-haves Contest Terms and Conditions.pdf 111.6K 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments ImJustGreene ✭ September 1 edited September 1 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=2511f8f2-7386-4134-88ea-8217e27b4efa I think the Elgato Stream Deck is a must have for any stream. I’m just beginning my streaming journey, twitch.tv/ImJustGreene 😄, and not having a stream deck definitely makes switching between scenes difficult or just being able to do cool little thing a while gaming. While I’m just beginning and not streaming to to many people, being able to interact in fun ways with the power of the stream deck would be awesome. It just makes a stream that much smoother and I would love to have one for my stream.  Above I put my dream stream setup and if I got that I don’t know what I would do lol. Thanks everyone!! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Wizardofki ✭ September 3 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=f7a6142e-bc87-4517-be2e-d5c8f05e464a My must-have for streaming playing video games to Twitch or meeting with family, friends, or coworkers over Zoom would be the Sanho HyperCam HD Full 1080P Webcam because it got really good reviews, it's adjustable, and has built-in dual microphones. Obviously, if your streaming, a quality Webcam with built-in microphone is essential. So, this is what I would use to upgrade my streaming build to stream on Twitch and/or Zoom. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Ashlandhunter92 ✭ September 3 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=b9da02b7-3fb5-4b31-ad7f-9eef95da0564 Honestly the main thing I don't have that I'd like to have is a elgato stream deck! I'm still moderately new to streaming but I really enjoy it! I mainly stream fantasy games like dark souls 3, final fantasy 14, 7 days to die, elder scrolls online and such on my twitch.  Twitch.tv/land_of_ash  I just really love the functionality of the stream deck and think it would make it that much better! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MrKayveman ✭ September 3 My most important thing is having a good time with my viewers. My essential device is my Logitech g502. I would love the Elgato stream deck for OBS shortcuts, as my logitech g19 g keys arent working that well for it. Come check me out! twitch.tv/mrkayveman 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter LandShark admin September 3 Great posts so far! Be sure to add a picture of your streaming set up to be entered in the contest! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter GanjaGremlin ✭ September 8 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=18d11a39-ded3-491e-8911-9f8158349bfa Currently I've found my passion is for streaming smaller horror and meme games with my friends. I also plan to stream about music and maybe make videos where I can collaborate with friends and viewers(if any) on songs. Though its currently not in my PC due to how my cooling pump is mounted(I need to get the correct bracket to mount it vertically) I cant live without my ElgatoHD60 Pro. It allows me to stream any of my consoles through my PC with a few extra conversion pieces I can even use the retro ones rather than rely on emulators. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BFZ ✭ September 9 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=f0f9f989-7e6b-46bf-87da-869a41264a89 I'd say a must-have for streaming is having a quality microphone! Being able to sound crystal clear to your audience is super important for having a role in your success. I stream to twitch, so there's importance in a lot of things, but something simple and easy to boost your stream quality is by making sure your voice sounds clear and not grainy or noisy. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter LandShark admin September 11 edited September 11 @BFZ Very nice! The Spark is a great cardioid condenser microphone. What interface are you using along with it? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter LandShark admin September 11 @GanjaGremlin Sweet set up! Do you have a PCIe extender to allow you to use it outside your case or are you not streaming because of the new liquid cooling pump? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter BolognaBruh ✭ September 18 Is this still open? 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Enamelized Va ✭ September 18 @BolognaBruh yes until the end of the month Sept 30, 2020 11:59pm ET 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter LandShark admin September 22 @BolognaBruh Yes! @Enamelized is correct. The contest is open until Sept 30, 2020 11:59pm ET 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sunne ✭ September 23 edited September 23 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=d1645c1b-8250-494b-9f45-b6d242e64b6d My set up is for youtube and twitch for gaming and I am just getting a pc that has maxed my budget. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Durin_Deathless ✭ September 23 Here is my wishlist. I already own the Logitech c922 Pro webcam which I use to occasionally stream. I'm new to it, and due to just having our first child, I don't have regular hours to stream. I'd like to change that soon and eventually bring him into it in a few years himself. I'm currently building a green screen I can move around as needed (wife got the idea for family photos). I also added 2 new monitors as these are old and starting to suffer burn-in. The left one is currently shared with my work laptop due to the pandemic. I also don't own any consoles so while I have the elgato 4k60, I don't have a need for it yet. Maybe when my son is old enough to play and stream. Here's my current setup. Lighting is terrible, so I also need additional focused lights. My must-have product is the headset.  I play The Division 2 a lot so I need quality sound and mic on a headset for the group play. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter True_Arce ✭ September 24 This is my current setup. I just got my pc built about a month and a half ago so im trying to get into streaming and heres the link to my wishlist https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=7160d6c8-96e3-4999-88a8-34a500974460 This is my must have. Its the Astro A50 Wireless headset for pc. Now I have to plug in my xbox controller to the top of my pc then plug in my headset to the controller to hear any kind of audio from my pc so I would love to eliminate plugging in my controller all together. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter RioMarquez ✭ September 25 I'm using an A4Tech PK-635G webcam and a Fifine microphone...  This is the acessories that I want/ https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=4ad41675-6fd7-4bd7-82a6-e91dcac3645c 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter mrscole131 ✭ September 27 Had a lot of fun dreaming of my setup! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=bece7923-0651-42e6-a584-3136b3edf565 A mic is my must-have item because I make math videos with Zoom and the mic I use now is on my headset which has been wonky lately.  Students need as few distractions as possible when learning math!  My must-have mic: https://www.microcenter.com/quickViewConfigurator2020/617740/shure-sm7b-vocal-dynamic-microphone 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter RealMexicanJoker ✭ September 27 edited September 27 The dream to finish my dream setup https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=b8f13abb-cfe2-451b-a2c8-5d8251f5ee41 Getting an ElGato Stream Deck would be such an amazing gift. I stream on twitch and make video content on YouTube. Our community strives to create a positive community that welcomes everyone. Please help me reach this dream microcenter. Come watch me on Twitch! http://www.twitch.tv/realmexicanjoker?sr=a. Mention microcenter and I'll raid your channel after the stream -RealMexicanJoker 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter WeepyAnemone houston, tx ✭ September 29 edited September 29 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=592bd542-c34b-4e56-b2a1-0798678c552c To began with the type of stream im doing is for twitch, my mother and i are working really hard to get my self a descent PC so i can reach my dream to be a VTuber. and to be honest if i really won this price it would help a lot economically speaking. second, my chosen streaming accessory is actually two, a webcam and a mic and here is why, since i want to be a VTuber i really need a good microphon quality and a cam so my character would be able to catch my reactions or my gestures, and the microphone quality is because no one wants to watch a stream with trash audio quality, they would leave an wont come back for the same reason. so if i have to chose between a cam or a mic i will go for the mic because for the reason i explain. postscript: im sorry if you dot get some part of my explanetion, iam a english learner, and its kinda dificult to me to explain other people what im thinking in english. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Corey_Saldana87 ✭ September 29 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=08f81d05-2854-4eb0-8334-88d63df377ac This is my most recent setup that I'll be using as a beginner streamer for Twitch & YouTube Streaming. The type of streaming I will be doing is of course gaming but also show what I do as my full time job and that is photography/videography, so I will be doing some live edits for people that are interested.  What I think is the most important streaming product is something I didn't realize I would need till later on that is a second monitor, which is why I recently just added the 2nd monitor here in my photo. Being able to see all the chats and alerts on a different screen vs the main screen is so much more helpful so I can also stay engaged with my viewers and I feel it's definitely important to engage with your viewers. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter POSHMODE Los Angeles, CA ✭ September 29 DREAM POSH PC https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=4c2c9e3c-7817-4615-bc13-74d02bfaec31 Building my dream POSH PC (is what I "call" it lol) will have me ready for streaming on Twitch and YouTube. I'm currently in the process of getting my channel set up - username: POSHMODE. I chose these accessories into my wishlist as a must-have so that I'm able to record myself playing games with high quality, such as Call of Duty (which is my first time playing and I LOVE IT!), Kingdom Hearts, Mario Kart, and a twist of some OG games from previous consoles that I'll leave it up to a surprise. Having an additional monitor will help me configure my stream set up. I want to be able to see my chat box so that I can interact with my viewers easily, and make sure that everything is running smoothly. Alongside, I want to showcase what I do in my career. I'm a freelance Fashion Designer, and I think it'll be something interesting and new for me to project my viewers of the behind-the-scenes on how I design and create garments from scratch. So within all of the essentials I need from my wishlist, it'll definitely help me achieve the set up I envision that will be practical and aesthetically pleasing. I love RGB - anything with neon and colors from light reflection. So the RGB lights will help me achieve the right look that I'm aiming for as my backdrop. It's important for me to have amazing quality for my viewers, and be able to accommodate my personality within my POSH PC build. So I hope that my dream set up will come true! Thank you for this awesome opportunity! - Rachelle 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter adohm2016 ✭ September 29 edited September 29 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=9e380c6a-2392-4055-9bff-2a48f9197986 I just got into streaming on Twitch (username atsukoraimu) when I got Super Mario All-Stars and I am having such a good time that I want to build out my setup more. Lighting is currently my must-have. I have a good microphone, headset and camera but not enough lighting for my 3D avatar to recognize my facial expressions! Streaming gives me a dedicated time for gaming, away from my phone (unless I am googling something). It also gives me some social aspects to chat with other gamers that have the same interests as myself. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Joyboy ✭ October 1 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=e82b11b2-470e-4bce-868a-ad111ac1d39a I stream on twitch. Don't have a lot of experience at it but learning a lot so far. Lighting  for my stream is the one thing  I have not invested on yet, and believe I must have because I have seen how inconsistent my the colors in my stream are based on what the time. 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We want you to be aware of what kind of information we obtain fro Community Article Join the MicroCenterOfficial Folding@Home Team: #257944 - Page 10 — Micro Center Join the MicroCenterOfficial [email protected] Team: #257944 «1…78910111213…20» Go Comments cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 22 MissingNOLA said: Question for those who know better than I: I've gotten an old Core2Duo system resurrected with a Linux OS.  The graphics card is too ancient to fold and this CPU doesn't eek out enough points to justify its power drain.  Anyone know of a cheap PCIe GPU that would work in this clunker to make it worthwhile?  Don't want to spend much since folding is the only use this box will ever get. A GTX 750Ti will do ~100k PPD.  The GTX 1050Ti will do ~200k PPD, neither of these cards require a pcie pwr plug.  Folding maintains a list of GPUs  & pwr efficiency https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRcR50eJc1MC60klR5d8R1jeYspg3RAMbeEeguvybakdmy0kM3E-_IDcjbsUwhzhGrzhgSpPRqEQ7Ek/pubhtml   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 22 kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 23 ryau said: Interesting, not sure I want to switch to Linux, but I did manage to fine tune my config to get about a 20-25% increase in PPD. I have a 3950X (16C/32T) and found running multiple CPU slots with 4 threads each seems optimal. I've also applied a mild CPU OC, but am leery of pushing it too much as temps climb pretty high for not much performance gain. Now is it more efficient to break up the cpu on a intel chip as well just wondering because I just left it as it was when I installed the [email protected] app?  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 23 edited May 23 cine_chris said: kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  I'm diffidently up for taking part in it if we can do it as a team. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 23 edited May 23 CRANK It uP!  Look at the teams we're chasing: Reddit, Ukraine, Brazil, Hewlett Packard, Google, ASRock. Check out the Overclockers Top 100 analysis page: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php 3 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ryau admin May 23 cine_chris said: kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  Interesting idea... I'll see what I can do. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ryau admin May 23 kmiller922 said: ryau said: Interesting, not sure I want to switch to Linux, but I did manage to fine tune my config to get about a 20-25% increase in PPD. I have a 3950X (16C/32T) and found running multiple CPU slots with 4 threads each seems optimal. I've also applied a mild CPU OC, but am leery of pushing it too much as temps climb pretty high for not much performance gain. Now is it more efficient to break up the cpu on a intel chip as well just wondering because I just left it as it was when I installed the [email protected] app?  It's been many years since I last folded on an Intel CPU, so I'm not sure. Maybe @TSMichaelB might have some insights? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ May 23 Something I have been following loosely... The number of exabytes is down to 2.1.  We were folding over 2.4 at the beginning of my journey here.  This means every team is losing members.  FAH needs to get itself back in the press again.  More importantly, there needs to be a way to find a community that hasn't been tapped to help out.  MIght I suggest a few ideas... Stadiums and Arenas: (When not in use there are hundreds of computers sitting idle in a stadium) Start a town computing project:          Every town that has a library or town hall take one computer and set it up to run FAH.  As of 2018, there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. 14,768 of these have populations below 5,000.  Presume 15000 computers at a minimum of a Core2Duo.  That's 60,000 cores producing 20 Petaflops. Hospitals and clinics:        There are over 7000 hospitals and clinics in the US.  Imagine if every hospital and clinic contributed one computer to the cause. Corporations:       There are tens of thousands of corporations across the US.  Some are small, some are huge.  Most have an IT department.  Take one scrap computer (or more) and set up FAH stations around the company, showing how they are supporting the fight against disease. I don't have the connections to get these ideas to people except on a one on one basis.  As a grass roots methodology I am just one person and I have tried to encourage people to join this fight.  Others are in better places to make changes, and kick this up to WSU for them to consider.  I presume WSU has a marketing team?  I'm just an idea guy.  Maybe someone here knows how to run with it. Be cool, Kirito 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 23 edited May 23 I'd also add to that list every towns schools as well as colleges and university's. There are so many places that have the cpu and gpu that could be put towards the efforts. The only thing is getting the media attention that it deserves is going to be at best difficult for those that do have connections in the industry. @ryau Would you by chance have any contacts you could use? 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 23 edited May 24 @Kirito As an engineer (retired) I like to look at the efficiency of the system & impact +/- overall.  In general, most CPUs aren't efficient folders on a PPD/$ or PPD/watt basis.  So, ganging hordes of inefficient systems, especially during summer months doesn't appeal to me, nor would it appeal to corporations or municipalities that are forced to consider the logistics and answer to shareholders or voters that see no immediate benefit.  Leveraging gaming platforms makes the most sense to me.  Getting  Xboxes or Playstations to Fold, perhaps adopting legacy gaming boxes could make a huge difference as a research tool.  Perhaps a virtual world where you need PPDs to recharge your laser cannons, energy xtals, or life support system.   0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 23 @kmiller922  While participation has dwindled, MCO must be fairing better than other teams, as we are at #20 for the week, up +12!!!  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ May 23 Big drop in points today across the board. Wonder if the servers are having issues again. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 23 edited May 23 MightyMayfield said: Big drop in points today across the board. Wonder if the servers are having issues again. I noticed most of my units are timing about the same crunch time so points might come as big burst. There was also a line of sever storms that came through and is still going through about half of the country some producing sever damage which might be the cause as well for the point drop off also. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 23 cine_chris said: @kmiller922  While participation has dwindled, MCO must be fairing better than other teams, as we are at #20 for the week, up +12!!!  It does seem that way. I took notice that we picked up a few new people as well which of course is great! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Kirito ✭✭ May 24 cine_chris said: @Kirito As an engineer (retired) I like to look at the efficiency of the system & impact +/- overall.  In general, most CPUs aren't efficient folders on a PPD/$ or PPD/watt basis.  So, ganging hordes of inefficient systems, especially during summer months doesn't appeal to me, nor would it appeal to corporations or municipalities that are forced to consider the logistics and answer to shareholders or voters that see no immediate benefit.  Leveraging gaming platforms makes the most sense to me.  Getting  Xboxes or Playstations to Fold, perhaps adopting legacy gaming boxes could make a huge difference as a research tool.  Perhaps a virtual world where you need PPDs to recharge your laser cannons, energy xtals, or life support system.   I agree.   Last I heard Sony wasn't going to embed anything new and the PS3 isn't really efficient anymore.  I am not much of a gamer and have no experience with X-Box.  It would be nice if Microsoft could help.  While CPU's might not be the most efficient answer the goal of using a distributed computing system is to have more systems online.  If we could get a full scale bitcoin mining warehouse on this (1000 GPU networked system) we could possibly model the Singularity, but unless there is compensation no one is going to contribute that.  My logic is to get more systems online from people and places who will ultimately benefit from the solutions found in FAH.  Sure, I would love to get some nice GPU's.  My Lenovo Think-Stations do not accommodate them.  I don't have the money  for them.  I have 52 cores across four computers I can contribute so that is what I do.  I believe others could contribute what they can and if they did we would have that many more weapons to use on this disease. This is more of the social model of helping people to see the value of the technology beside surfing YouTube and checking email.  This also distributes the power costs over a broader range of people.  This logic could also be applied globally.  "What if they gave a war for a virus and everyone came?"  Declaring war against Covid-19 as a full political model, and then develop strategy and tactics appropriately we could be more efficient about beating it. Defense:      Social Distancing      Face masks      Working from home      Contact tracing      Support Systems (Hospitals, Testing)      Home front contributions                              FAH, Making Masks, Ventilators Offense:      Intel:        Scientific research, data sampling, Virus Modeling      Attack:     Vaccination, Medication      Weapons:     Distributed computer modeling, scientific research facilities, pharmaceutical plants      Support systems:     IT, FAH, Communications We are just one part of this war.  We do our job.  We need more Rosie the Riveter's, one rivet at a time, helping to find the answer to this. FAH gives people a way to contribute, to fight the war, instead of being locked in their house and powerless.  We may not be the most efficient, but when we work together we can overwhelm the problems. So in the end it may be less about efficiency, and more about pulling people together. Like I said, its just an idea.  I just don't know how to reach a broader audience with it.  I am just a geek with a few computers.  I'm not a salesman.  I just operate equipment.  I just think it would be better if we had more weapons at our disposal. Kirito 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Tramp78 ✭✭ May 24 We are 30th in active users 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 24 @MightyMayfield congratz on making it to 600 there bud. 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 25 cine_chris said: MissingNOLA said: Question for those who know better than I: I've gotten an old Core2Duo system resurrected with a Linux OS.  The graphics card is too ancient to fold and this CPU doesn't eek out enough points to justify its power drain.  Anyone know of a cheap PCIe GPU that would work in this clunker to make it worthwhile?  Don't want to spend much since folding is the only use this box will ever get. A GTX 750Ti will do ~100k PPD.  The GTX 1050Ti will do ~200k PPD, neither of these cards require a pcie pwr plug.  Folding maintains a list of GPUs  & pwr efficiency https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRcR50eJc1MC60klR5d8R1jeYspg3RAMbeEeguvybakdmy0kM3E-_IDcjbsUwhzhGrzhgSpPRqEQ7Ek/pubhtml   For just a few dollars more than a GTX 1050 TI, a regular GTX 1650 doesn't require a power plug either.  It's only when you get to the 1650 Super does it require a 6 pin power plug.  I guess it all depends on what your definition of "cheap" is.  1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 25 edited May 25 I have a GPU card which seems to be stuck on Download status.  Has anyone else seen this behavior?  The only thing I see in the log is when I tried to pause and unpause it.  This looks different than when it can't find a work order to download: ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused ******************************* Date: 2020-05-25 ******************************* work server is: 206.223.170.146 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 25 you might try a memory purge by rebooting make sure you pause folding before you do when your system comes back up it will restart. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 25 ChrisHarshman said: I have a GPU card which seems to be stuck on Download status.  Has anyone else seen this behavior?  The only thing I see in the log is when I tried to pause and unpause it.  This looks different than when it can't find a work order to download: Windows? Yes. In 2nd slot. Device Mgr showed error 43 (iirc) Had to install Nvidia, update drivers, fixed it. Worked OK in 1st slot. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 25 @cine_chris, thanks for the response, but this is a Linux machine, I guess I should have specified that. @kmiller922, after pausing, updating, and rebooting, then the control program couldn't talk to the client program.  I verified client program was running, but at OS command line it wasn't responding if I tried stop, restart, or even log. Digging around I found the log file before what I posted, which confirms it did start downloading the next work item but never finished: 10:04:33:WU00:FS01:Download 11.84% 10:04:40:WU00:FS01:Download 12.67% ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused I tried to re-install the client program, and after that the CPU slot picked up where it left off, but the GPU slot seems to have lost whatever it was trying to download before and is now looking for new work.  I guess it's better than sitting there idle 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 25 I had that happen as well on my windows system, it happens sometime that the preverbial bit bucket happens to appear out of no where like a rouge comet. Sometime all we can do is a fresh install or reload of drivers to get it back on course. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭ May 25 The battle between Duluth and Secretlab is real. kmiller922 said: @MightyMayfield congratz on making it to 600 there bud. Thanks! 1 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 25 edited May 25 I'm currently sneaking up on Houston155 slowly but surly. LOL.  I never thought I would ever be up at this level. I'd say rank 6 - 9 is some serious competition atm. 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 25 Our next teams to over take are: Top 5 Conquests and Threats! Team Name Rank Diff Points Diff Gain Daily Date Overtake ASRockMania 2 -279,814,138 42,520,262 06.01.20, 4am / 6.6 Days Macrumors.com - Team Folding 6 -997,196,125 154,766,822 06.01.20, 1am / 6.4 Days NVIDIA USER 2 USER FORUMS 5 -812,226,069 155,282,516 05.30.20, 8pm / 5.2 Days NCIX.com Forum Folding Team 3 -485,300,235 166,893,302 05.28.20, 12pm / 2.9 Days Google 1 -9,244,560 149,237,716 05.25.20, 4pm / 1.5 Hours 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 27 edited May 27 If you're running multiple systems it's useful to get the remote comm working (green box).  Not obvious is the summation window in the lower left (orange box), which makes it easy to see your current total estPPD and spot if something isn't working.  Like, shown below, estPPD had dropped, when I checked, it was a nominal send/download cycle.  It's often a non-loading slot, which a slot right-click, pause/fold cycle will often nudge into loading. 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 27 @Yellowbillycat 100M !!  A 'lone-wolf' shout out. 3 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Yellowbillycat ✭ May 27 cine_chris said: @Yellowbillycat 100M !!  A 'lone-wolf' shout out. @cine_chris Thanks!  Though I also used that milestone to shutdown my folding machines.  The temperature in the Zwift Cave is now officially (Northeast) unbearable.  First 90 degree day here.  When the first floor AC gets repaired next week I will restart the folding heaters. 2 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 27 @Yellowbillycat congratz hope your back up soon 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter «1…78910111213…20» Go Leave a Comment BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list Format Heading 1Heading 2 QuoteCodeSpoiler Emoji Url Image Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights Drop image/file Home • Announcements, News & LaunchesComment As ... Community Article How to Choose Your Parts, Part 2: The Video Card (GPU) — Micro Center How to Choose Your Parts, Part 2: The Video Card (GPU) TSTonyV admin April 21 edited October 9 in Graphics Cards Edited 9/18 to add information about NVIDIA RTX 3000 series video cards If you haven't read part one yet, click here! Greetings! Welcome to the Micro Center Community. This is the second in a series of posts I’m making to help you become better informed about the current market of parts for those of you wanting to build a PC. Whether you’re a first-time builder or an experienced one, it can be difficult to keep track of all the different information available so my hope is this will help you figure out what fits your budget and needs best. This post will be focused the Video Card, AKA GPU (Graphics Processing Unit). First things first (again), we need to answer some basic questions: What is your budget? The first question you should ask, as this determines what type of price and performance you can look at. The GPU is usually the most expensive part in the build, so keep that in mind when choosing which one you want. What kind of games are you playing? Different games have different graphics requirements. Games like Fortnite and League of Legends are less GPU intensive, so you don’t need a super top-tier GPU to get good quality. Games like the Witcher 3 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, on the other hand, will require a lot of GPU power if you want to run at higher settings. What is your intended resolution/framerate? This goes together with the previous question. If your goal is to play games at 1080p/60 FPS, even the budget cards will be able to run most titles without a problem. You’ll need to lower your settings in the more GPU intensive games, but they’ll get the job done. If you want higher quality in more demanding titles you have to look at more powerful GPUs. And once again, we have an all-important question: NVIDIA or AMD? AMD makes their return in another Great Debate, this time duking it out vs. Nvidia. There was a time when NVIDIA and AMD video cards (formerly ATI video cards) would trade spots with both value and performance, but eventually Nvidia solidified itself as the premier video card maker and until very recently AMD was only competitive in the budget category. AMD is still a strong budget contender, and now they’re starting to fight their way back in the mid and low-high end categories with some very compelling options. With CPUs, there’s big differences in single threaded performance and the number of cores/threads available, which makes direct comparisons sometimes somewhat difficult depending on your use case. GPUs are a little easier to compare: what gives me better framerate at a given resolution? That’s what we’ll be focusing on when laying out the cards in different tiers and making recommendations.  I also want to make a note about features: NVIDIA’s RTX cards have a couple of features AMD's do not have: Real-time Ray Tracing and DLSS. The basic overview of Ray Tracing is that it’s realistic physics-based lighting calculated in real-time and allows for things like real shadows and reflections. Instead of a reflection being drawn in and modelled by an artist or a shadow being a pre-loaded texture attached to a model, Ray Tracing allows all those to be calculated realistically in real-time based on light sources present in the game. DLSS stands for Deep Learning Super Sampling, and it's basically an AI-based upscaling solution. Essentially, it's designed to allow you to play at higher resolutions without sacrificing framerate and image quality, by allowing your GPU to render at a lower resolution and then scale that render up to the target resolution. These technologies are not widely supported and in practice didn't work very well with the 2000 series cards, but with NVIDIA pushing DLSS 2.0 and making improvements in ray-tracing performance in the RTX 3000 cards, these are becoming worthwhile features to consider. More games will likely support these features as time goes on as well. Ray tracing does result in a significant performance hit in-game (upwards of 60% FPS loss) but especially when paired with DLSS we're seeing playable framerates even at higher resolutions. AMD is expected to match these features with their next generation cards and when that happens, this will be a moot point, but until then if these are features you're specifically interested in, NVIDIA is the way to go.  For those of you who are workstation oriented and are doing graphics-accelerated work, NVIDIA and AMD both manufacture cards specifically for workstations that are separate from their gaming stack. That said, for most cases you’ll find that the gaming cards' relative performance will translate somewhat to production, relatively speaking. I.E. the more high-powered it is as a gaming card, the better it will usually be for workstation applications. That’s not always true depending on your specific needs, and even the top-tier gaming cards can perform very poorly compared to proper workstation cards depending on the use case, but it’s a good general guideline to go with.  Finally, I do need to make a note about driver performance and optimization. The new AMD cards have finally started to put out some compelling performance numbers and are competing better with NVIDIA in non-budget categories, but AMD has unfortunately developed a bit of reputation for having poor driver stability on these newer cards. Most people won’t have issues, but at least for now, if you want the safe, more reliable bet for drivers, NVIDIA still has the edge. Along with that, games are all optimized differently. Some titles are very favorable for the AMD cards, some are favorable for NVIDIA cards. The relative performance of each card can be affected a lot by how well optimized the game is for each brand. In some cases cards from a lower tier in one brand can compete against cards from a higher tier in other, if the title is favorable. Keep this in mind when choosing a card as well.  How do I decide between different models of the same card? If you’ve looked up video cards on your own at all, you probably noticed how different manufacturers will have their own versions of each card, sometimes multiple ones. If you’re not sure how that works, or why they do it, it’s pretty simple: AMD and NVIDIA design the GPUs, and manufacturers tweak them to come up with the different models you see on sale. The primary differences you’ll see will be the cooler design and clock speeds for the GPU itself. Some cards will include RGB features or may have different video ports on the back. All those things together will contribute to the price differences across the same type of card. If you see a video card labelled “overclocked” all that means is that it’s clocked above the base specification AMD or NVIDIA provided to the manufacturers. Depending on how they overclock the card, it may feature a larger heatsink and more fans to increase cooling performance to match. And if you’re concerned that those cards could be unstable because you’ve heard overclocking can cause issues, don’t worry. Manufacturers do extensive testing to ensure the cards are stable at the settings they ship with. Some of those price differences may be pretty large. A 2060 Super, for example, could be anywhere from about $360 all the way up to around $460 depending on the specific model you choose. A $100 swing is pretty big, so surely the performance changes to reflect that, right? Unfortunately, no. At worst, the least expensive version of a given card will only be a few percent slower than the most expensive. What you’re usually paying for on the more expensive models is better cooling, quieter operation, and/or aesthetics. How to match a GPU to a Processor, and what it means to have a bottleneck: Ideally, if you’re reading this, you’ve already gone through my previous post about choosing your processor. Now that we’re looking at the GPU, we need to start considering how our parts will match up with each other.  There’s a concept known as “bottlenecking” where if you match a high-end part with a low-end part, you’re going to be held back by whatever the slowest part is. Say, for example you have a Ryzen 3 3200G and you’re using it with an AMD RX 570 video card. You probably have okay to decent performance in most of the games you play, but you decide to make a huge upgrade and jump all the way up to an NVIDIA RTX 2080ti for your video card while keeping that 3200G. While you will certainly see a performance increase, if you stick with that 3200G you’ll never see the type of performance a 2080ti is capable of. It just doesn’t have the juice to take advantage of all that graphics power.  Conversely, if you have an Intel i5-8600k with a GTX 1060, upgrading to a 9700k will certainly give you some performance gains, mostly in your FPS. But if you also decide to crank up your resolution from 1080p to 4k, you’ll find it won’t be playable because the 1060 is just not designed for that kind of resolution, even though your CPU is plenty capable of handling it.  It’s a balancing act that involves a lot of factors. However, the important thing to note here is with the current crop of CPUs on the market currently offering more cores, threads, and better single-core performance than ever before, even mid-range CPUs like the Ryzen 5 3600 and i5-9600k won't really be bottlenecks unless you're trying to push really high framerates while playing games at 1080p. Remember, as resolution goes up games become more reliant on your GPU. If you're playing at 1440p or 4k, even budget CPUs will perform very closely (and sometimes even the same)a as high-end CPUs because you're being restricted by your GPU.  Modern games ttend to be more GPU bound than CPU bound, so when planning your build you need to keep this in mind. That’s the big reason why I had strong recommendations for all the AMD CPUs in the processor guide: what you save on CPU could let you jump up to the next tier of GPU. An i5-9600k + 2060 Super might be better in gaming than a Ryzen 5 3600 + 2060 Super. But if your budget allows the choice of a Ryzen 5 3600 + 2070 Super instead, that will almost always be the better choice because of the GPU difference. Many people get really fixated on the idea of bottlenecking and as long as you're not on extreme ends of the spectrum with your CPU and GPU, you shouldn't worry too much about it.  Now that we’ve got all that stuff out of the way, let’s talk about the video cards themselves.  Entry Level These cards will be good for 1080p gaming at a low cost. You may have to lower the settings in certain games to get 60 FPS, but they’ll get the job done.   NVIDIA GTX 1650 Super: The 1650 Super ranges from about $160-180 and is probably the best overall option in this price category. In terms of performance it competes directly with the AMD RX580 and RX 5500XT and will typically be within a few percent. Practically speaking, the performance is essentially the same. The regular 1650 has been completely invalidated by this card. AMD RX 5500XT 4GB: AMD’s new budget card and effectively the replacement for the previous RX580/590. Ranging from $180-200 it’s a little more expensive than the 1650 Super. There’s a 5500XT model with 8GB of video RAM, but it usually has no effect on gaming performance and costs closer to $220 so it’s generally not worth it except specific scenarios you’d need more VRAM for.   AMD RX580: The RX580 has been around for about three years now. It can usually be had for about $170-180, so it’s a little bit more compelling compared to the 5500XT. However, it’s a little harder to find. AMD RX570: Previously the King of the Budget Card. It is weaker than the RX580 and 1650 Super, but if you can find them they’re usually under $150 or even $140 these days. If your budget is that tight, this can be a consideration, but since a 1650 Super can be had for as low as $160 I’d say save up a bit and go for that instead. Like the RX 580 this is getting harder to find. Low Range This is another category of card that will do well at 1080p, with the benefit of running more graphically intense titles a little better so you won’t have to lower settings as much. Lighter titles you can probably start running at 1440p. NVIDIA GTX 1660 Super: The 1660 Super will run from $230-260, depending on which specific model you go for. Like the normal 1650, the normal 1660 has been invalidated by the Super version considering the nearly identical price points and performance boost. NVIDIA GTX 1660ti: The 1660ti is around $280-300 and sees a small performance bump over the 1660 Super. However, now that you’re pushing up to that $300 price point, it’s starting to get into pricing territory with the next tier of GPUs so the value becomes less compelling. Mid-Range Now we’re starting to play with the big boys. The cards in this category will run pretty much any game at 1080p/60FPS at high settings with no issue; 1440p/60FPS becomes accessible with some compromise on settings depending on the card and title. 4k gaming may be possible on titles with light graphics requirements, but in general 4k will be very limited or require massive compromise on graphical quality settings to run at playable framerates. This is also where you’ll get into NVIDIA’s RTX cards if you want Ray Tracing. AMD RX 5600XT: The 5600XT can be had from around $290-320 generally. It goes head-to-head with NVIDIA’S RTX 2060. Performance is typically the same or very close, trading the lead depending on the game. NVIDIA RTX 2060: The RTX 2060 can range anywhere from $300-400 depending on the model you get. If you can get it at that near $300 price point, like with the EVGA RTX 2060 KO, then it’s worth the price and competes well with the 5600XT. Once you’re past that, you’re getting into RX 5700 and 2060 Super territory which are better performers. AMD RX 5700: The RX5700 is found from about $340-380, with some models getting up to around $400. It competes closely with NVIDIA’s 2060 Super, generally being a small amount behind but usually offering better performance-per-dollar with the lower cost. NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super: Another Super card, this is the updated version of the normal 2060, starting around $360 and going all the way up to around $460 depending on the model. It does generally pull ahead of the RX 5700 in performance but costs a little more. Like the regular 2060, if you look at the more expensive versions you’re getting into pricing territory for a more powerful 5700 XT so I’d stick with models closer to the lower end of its price range.   AMD RX 5700XT: Ranging from $400-460, it sees a solid performance bump over the 5700 and is AMD’s most powerful gaming card available right now. This is the top of the “mid-range” cards and starts to break into high-end performance. It will generally beat the 2060 Super and in the right titles will even compete closely with the 2070 Super. Given that the 2070 Super starts about $100 more, the 5700 XT has a very strong performance value and at the price point this card really can’t be beat.  High-End AMD unfortunately takes a backseat as they are not offering any new cards above their 5700XT in performance. We are now firmly in NVIDIA-only territory. If you're playing at 1080p these cards are kind of overkill, because 1080p games tend to be less GPU bound and more CPU bound for your performance. While you will still probably see some performance uplift at 1080p over the mid-range cards, it won't always match up with the price increase and the mid-range cards should be more than sufficient for 1080p gaming. At this level we're getting into reliable 1440p/60+FPS at high/max settings, and 4k gaming becomes accessible.  NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super: These cards are generally $500-600 depending on the model. 4K gaming becomes accessible at playable framerates, but you will likely have to compromise on your settings. Games that support Ray Tracing may also start to become playable. NVIDIA RTX 2080 Super: The 2080 Super makes a price big leap starting at about $700 and going up to about $800. You’ll see about a 15% performance increase over the 2070 super in general and 4k is doable with less compromise.   RTX 2080ti: The 2080ti, once the king of gaming, has now lost it's place at the top with the introduction of the RTX 3080 and 3090. It's still an amazing gaming card, and still well worth a look at the right price. NVIDIA RTX 3070: More information to be added when the 3070 releases in October 2020 and we have full details on performance. Based on early information from NVIDIA this card is expected to perform about the same as the 2080ti in games which would make this a great value at $500 for the performance. If that holds true, I expect this card to be one of the best all around performance/value offerings.  NVIDIA RTX 3080: NVIDIA's RTX 3080 is the new king on the block when it comes to gaming, seeing better performance even than the 2080ti while maintaining the ~$700 price point of the previous RTX 2080/Super. At 1440p and especially at 4k this card performs extremely well, roughly 25-30% faster than the 2080ti on average. With this card 4k gaming isn't just accessible or "mostly playable," it's really freakin' good and this may be the start of a new era of high-resolution gaming.  Enthusiast Tier “Enthusiast” tier is basically just a fancy way of saying “My video card costs more than your entire computer"... but I digress. Cards up in this category tend to see a vast increase in price relative to the previous tiers, and can start branching away from pure gaming focus and become more workstation oriented, usually indicated by a significant increase in VRAM. There’s a very small number of cards that occupy this tier.  NVIDIA RTX 3090: The RTX 3090 is an interesting card. While NVIDIA has marketed this card with a heavy gaming focus, it's only about 10-15% faster in gaming than the RTX 3080. And when you look at the specs and see a massive 24GB of VRAM, it becomes more clear what this kind of card is for. This is a card for people that aren't just looking to game, but are looking for strong workstation performance in applications that rely heavily and large amounts of VRAM, such as high-res GPU based rendering in programs like Maya. While NVIDIA did say this was something of a replacement for the Titan, it's still using their normal gaming drivers and does not have the same driver optimizations and features that a proper Titan-class card has. If you're using software that takes advantage of those optimizations, you'll be better off with a Titan or one of NVIDIAs workstation focused GPUs. But if you don't need those, this card is insanely powerful in any application that can make use of all that VRAM.  NVIDIA RTX Titan: For a measly $2500, you can have this card. Yes, you read that right. The RTX Titan is double the price of some 2080ti cards. But for gaming, the RTX titan is only marginally better than the 2080ti, small enough that you probably wouldn’t even notice a difference in a real setting. So why is it so much more expensive? The thing is, the RTX Titan is designed for a different purpose. While you can game on it, and game on it extremely well, what it’s really good at are workloads that require high amounts of VRAM such as machine learning and high-resolution video editing: the RTX Titan has 24GB of VRAM, more than double the 2080ti’s 11GB. Titan cards also have special driver optimizations and features for optimizing their performance in professional applications. Like with the super high-end CPUs I discussed back in part one, this is a card that you should only go for if you have a very specific purpose in mind. Choosing a GPU can be overwhelming with how many different cards and partner models are on the market, so I hope this helps you narrow it down. Feel free to comment if you have any questions, and make sure you check out part 3! 4 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Comments Mac_Mal ✭ August 30 Hello all! The CPU and GPU articles had some great info but it didn't compare the GTX cards. I'm wondering where the GTX 1080 Ti ranks on this list? I'm researching for my 1st  gaming PC build. I want a PC powerful enough to play games at 1440p at 100 fps and for VR games. There's a small chance me or my daughter will stream game play or post to youtube. My budget is $2k for the system ($2500 including monitor). I'm considering the 1080 ti as it's less expensive than the RTX 2080s but will it meet my expectations? I'm leaning towards the Intel 10600k but willing to go up a level with budget. Suggestions for a strong VR gaming set up? Thanks for reading! 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Ian admin August 31 Mac_Mal said: Hello all! The CPU and GPU articles had some great info but it didn't compare the GTX cards. I'm wondering where the GTX 1080 Ti ranks on this list? I'm researching for my 1st  gaming PC build. I want a PC powerful enough to play games at 1440p at 100 fps and for VR games. There's a small chance me or my daughter will stream game play or post to youtube. My budget is $2k for the system ($2500 including monitor). I'm considering the 1080 ti as it's less expensive than the RTX 2080s but will it meet my expectations? I'm leaning towards the Intel 10600k but willing to go up a level with budget. Suggestions for a strong VR gaming set up? Thanks for reading! Greetings. The 1080ti's are an older model and no longer produced so they would not be mentioned here as they are currently not sold by Micro Center. Typically in benchmarks, a 1080Ti falls in right around a 2070 Super. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin August 31 Mac_Mal said: Hello all! The CPU and GPU articles had some great info but it didn't compare the GTX cards. I'm wondering where the GTX 1080 Ti ranks on this list? I'm researching for my 1st  gaming PC build. I want a PC powerful enough to play games at 1440p at 100 fps and for VR games. There's a small chance me or my daughter will stream game play or post to youtube. My budget is $2k for the system ($2500 including monitor). I'm considering the 1080 ti as it's less expensive than the RTX 2080s but will it meet my expectations? I'm leaning towards the Intel 10600k but willing to go up a level with budget. Suggestions for a strong VR gaming set up? Thanks for reading! To add on two what Ian said, the 2070 Super/1080ti performance should be able to handle 1440p gaming. Depending on the specific game you may need to lower some graphics settings here and there to hit your target FPS but for the most part the 1080ti should handle 1440p at high settings with good FPS in most games.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter jbunke ✭ October 4 If you're not planning on gamming, is a graphics card required? 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter TSTonyV admin October 5 jbunke said: If you're not planning on gamming, is a graphics card required? If all you're doing is just normal office stuff like making word documents, excel spreadsheets, or just general web browsing and the like a graphics card is not required. A CPU with integrated graphics will be able to handle all that just fine.  The only time you might need a GPU when doing things like that is if you're trying to run 3 or more monitors all at the same time.  0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter jbunke ✭ October 6 Thanks for the feedback Tony.  I may want to run 2 monitors, but never 3.  Sounds like I will be ok.  I could always add a GPU if needed I presume. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter LandShark admin October 6 jbunke said: Thanks for the feedback Tony.  I may want to run 2 monitors, but never 3.  Sounds like I will be ok.  I could always add a GPU if needed I presume. Yep, a discrete GPU can be added to most desktop PCs. However, there are some exceptions depending on the type of desktop you have. 0 · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Sign In or Register to comment.