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Community Article (Closed) Streaming Must-haves Contest - Enter for your chance to WIN a $200 gift card! — Micro Center Computers Computer Parts Custom PC Builder DIY/ Maker {$smarty.capture.menu} Activity Categories Discussions Computers Computer Parts Custom PC Builder DIY/ Maker Home › Contests › Past Contests (Closed) Streaming Must-haves Contest - Enter for your chance to WIN a $200 gift card! LandShark admin August 2020 edited December 2020 in Past Contests Hello All! Did you know we have a streaming studio builder so you can get all the gear you need to stream? To begin building your own Streamer Setup, choose one of the suggested configurations - or go straight to a full, wide-open option. You'll be able to modify/customize elements from any of the suggested configurations throughout the process. Stardom is just around the corner, use our new Streaming Studio Builder to help you get there! To enter this contest, reply to this post and follow these steps. Use our Streaming Studio Builder to make your streaming Wishlist and share it with us (see directions below to copy the URL) Post a photo of your streaming set up and must-have streaming product – could be webcam, mic, headset, Stream Deck, etc Explain what type of streaming you use it for (on Twitch, for zoom, etc.) Explain why your chosen streaming accessory is a must-have Use our Streaming Studio Builder, add the streaming accessories you have, and then add the accessories you want! You can modify/customer your selection of components easily by selecting the "Change" button, as seen below. If you're interested in adding another similar item, you can use the "Select Additional" button. Once you've completed your list, you can save and share it by clicking the icon (outlined in red) of your preferred platform or copy the link to paste wherever you'd like! We created this tool to give you a head start on the road to becoming the next top streamer! We're here to help as well. If you have questions about what you need to get the perfect streaming setup, don't hesitate to ask us! We want to know what accessory you can't stream without. What's your must-have streaming accessory? How would you describe yourself as a streamer? Are you a beginner, intermediate, or pro? Perhaps you're something else? You tell us! Plug your stream, share your zoom setup. When you're streaming what's most important to you? Be sure to check out our PC Showcase contest for another chance to win big! A randomly selected winner will receive a $200 gift card Contest begins 12:01 am ET on September 1st, 2020 Contest ends 11:59 pm ET on September 30th, 2020. The winner will be contacted in the first week of October See attached contest terms and conditions. Streaming Must-haves Contest Terms and Conditions.pdf 111.6K 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Comments ImJustGreene ✭ September 2020 edited September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=2511f8f2-7386-4134-88ea-8217e27b4efa I think the Elgato Stream Deck is a must have for any stream. I’m just beginning my streaming journey, twitch.tv/ImJustGreene 😄, and not having a stream deck definitely makes switching between scenes difficult or just being able to do cool little thing a while gaming. While I’m just beginning and not streaming to to many people, being able to interact in fun ways with the power of the stream deck would be awesome. It just makes a stream that much smoother and I would love to have one for my stream.  Above I put my dream stream setup and if I got that I don’t know what I would do lol. Thanks everyone!! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Wizardofki ✭ September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=f7a6142e-bc87-4517-be2e-d5c8f05e464a My must-have for streaming playing video games to Twitch or meeting with family, friends, or coworkers over Zoom would be the Sanho HyperCam HD Full 1080P Webcam because it got really good reviews, it's adjustable, and has built-in dual microphones. Obviously, if your streaming, a quality Webcam with built-in microphone is essential. So, this is what I would use to upgrade my streaming build to stream on Twitch and/or Zoom. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Ashlandhunter92 ✭ September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=b9da02b7-3fb5-4b31-ad7f-9eef95da0564 Honestly the main thing I don't have that I'd like to have is a elgato stream deck! I'm still moderately new to streaming but I really enjoy it! I mainly stream fantasy games like dark souls 3, final fantasy 14, 7 days to die, elder scrolls online and such on my twitch.  Twitch.tv/land_of_ash  I just really love the functionality of the stream deck and think it would make it that much better! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MrKayveman ✭ September 2020 My most important thing is having a good time with my viewers. My essential device is my Logitech g502. I would love the Elgato stream deck for OBS shortcuts, as my logitech g19 g keys arent working that well for it. Come check me out! twitch.tv/mrkayveman 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin September 2020 Great posts so far! Be sure to add a picture of your streaming set up to be entered in the contest! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook GanjaGremlin ✭ September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=18d11a39-ded3-491e-8911-9f8158349bfa Currently I've found my passion is for streaming smaller horror and meme games with my friends. I also plan to stream about music and maybe make videos where I can collaborate with friends and viewers(if any) on songs. Though its currently not in my PC due to how my cooling pump is mounted(I need to get the correct bracket to mount it vertically) I cant live without my ElgatoHD60 Pro. It allows me to stream any of my consoles through my PC with a few extra conversion pieces I can even use the retro ones rather than rely on emulators. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BFZ ✭ September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=f0f9f989-7e6b-46bf-87da-869a41264a89 I'd say a must-have for streaming is having a quality microphone! Being able to sound crystal clear to your audience is super important for having a role in your success. I stream to twitch, so there's importance in a lot of things, but something simple and easy to boost your stream quality is by making sure your voice sounds clear and not grainy or noisy. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin September 2020 edited September 2020 @BFZ Very nice! The Spark is a great cardioid condenser microphone. What interface are you using along with it? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin September 2020 @GanjaGremlin Sweet set up! Do you have a PCIe extender to allow you to use it outside your case or are you not streaming because of the new liquid cooling pump? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BolognaBruh ✭ September 2020 Is this still open? 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Enamelized Va ✭ September 2020 @BolognaBruh yes until the end of the month Sept 30, 2020 11:59pm ET 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin September 2020 @BolognaBruh Yes! @Enamelized is correct. The contest is open until Sept 30, 2020 11:59pm ET 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Sunne ✭ September 2020 edited September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=d1645c1b-8250-494b-9f45-b6d242e64b6d My set up is for youtube and twitch for gaming and I am just getting a pc that has maxed my budget. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Durin_Deathless ✭ September 2020 Here is my wishlist. I already own the Logitech c922 Pro webcam which I use to occasionally stream. I'm new to it, and due to just having our first child, I don't have regular hours to stream. I'd like to change that soon and eventually bring him into it in a few years himself. I'm currently building a green screen I can move around as needed (wife got the idea for family photos). I also added 2 new monitors as these are old and starting to suffer burn-in. The left one is currently shared with my work laptop due to the pandemic. I also don't own any consoles so while I have the elgato 4k60, I don't have a need for it yet. Maybe when my son is old enough to play and stream. Here's my current setup. Lighting is terrible, so I also need additional focused lights. My must-have product is the headset.  I play The Division 2 a lot so I need quality sound and mic on a headset for the group play. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook True_Arce ✭ September 2020 This is my current setup. I just got my pc built about a month and a half ago so im trying to get into streaming and heres the link to my wishlist https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=7160d6c8-96e3-4999-88a8-34a500974460 This is my must have. Its the Astro A50 Wireless headset for pc. Now I have to plug in my xbox controller to the top of my pc then plug in my headset to the controller to hear any kind of audio from my pc so I would love to eliminate plugging in my controller all together. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook RioMarquez ✭ September 2020 I'm using an A4Tech PK-635G webcam and a Fifine microphone...  This is the acessories that I want/ https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=4ad41675-6fd7-4bd7-82a6-e91dcac3645c 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mrscole131 ✭ September 2020 Had a lot of fun dreaming of my setup! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=bece7923-0651-42e6-a584-3136b3edf565 A mic is my must-have item because I make math videos with Zoom and the mic I use now is on my headset which has been wonky lately.  Students need as few distractions as possible when learning math!  My must-have mic: https://www.microcenter.com/quickViewConfigurator2020/617740/shure-sm7b-vocal-dynamic-microphone 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook RealMexicanJoker ✭ September 2020 edited September 2020 The dream to finish my dream setup https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=b8f13abb-cfe2-451b-a2c8-5d8251f5ee41 Getting an ElGato Stream Deck would be such an amazing gift. I stream on twitch and make video content on YouTube. Our community strives to create a positive community that welcomes everyone. Please help me reach this dream microcenter. Come watch me on Twitch! http://www.twitch.tv/realmexicanjoker?sr=a. Mention microcenter and I'll raid your channel after the stream -RealMexicanJoker 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook WeepyAnemone houston, tx ✭ September 2020 edited September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=592bd542-c34b-4e56-b2a1-0798678c552c To began with the type of stream im doing is for twitch, my mother and i are working really hard to get my self a descent PC so i can reach my dream to be a VTuber. and to be honest if i really won this price it would help a lot economically speaking. second, my chosen streaming accessory is actually two, a webcam and a mic and here is why, since i want to be a VTuber i really need a good microphon quality and a cam so my character would be able to catch my reactions or my gestures, and the microphone quality is because no one wants to watch a stream with trash audio quality, they would leave an wont come back for the same reason. so if i have to chose between a cam or a mic i will go for the mic because for the reason i explain. postscript: im sorry if you dot get some part of my explanetion, iam a english learner, and its kinda dificult to me to explain other people what im thinking in english. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Corey_Saldana87 ✭ September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=08f81d05-2854-4eb0-8334-88d63df377ac This is my most recent setup that I'll be using as a beginner streamer for Twitch & YouTube Streaming. The type of streaming I will be doing is of course gaming but also show what I do as my full time job and that is photography/videography, so I will be doing some live edits for people that are interested.  What I think is the most important streaming product is something I didn't realize I would need till later on that is a second monitor, which is why I recently just added the 2nd monitor here in my photo. Being able to see all the chats and alerts on a different screen vs the main screen is so much more helpful so I can also stay engaged with my viewers and I feel it's definitely important to engage with your viewers. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook POSHMODE Los Angeles, CA ✭ September 2020 DREAM POSH PC https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=4c2c9e3c-7817-4615-bc13-74d02bfaec31 Building my dream POSH PC (is what I "call" it lol) will have me ready for streaming on Twitch and YouTube. I'm currently in the process of getting my channel set up - username: POSHMODE. I chose these accessories into my wishlist as a must-have so that I'm able to record myself playing games with high quality, such as Call of Duty (which is my first time playing and I LOVE IT!), Kingdom Hearts, Mario Kart, and a twist of some OG games from previous consoles that I'll leave it up to a surprise. Having an additional monitor will help me configure my stream set up. I want to be able to see my chat box so that I can interact with my viewers easily, and make sure that everything is running smoothly. Alongside, I want to showcase what I do in my career. I'm a freelance Fashion Designer, and I think it'll be something interesting and new for me to project my viewers of the behind-the-scenes on how I design and create garments from scratch. So within all of the essentials I need from my wishlist, it'll definitely help me achieve the set up I envision that will be practical and aesthetically pleasing. I love RGB - anything with neon and colors from light reflection. So the RGB lights will help me achieve the right look that I'm aiming for as my backdrop. It's important for me to have amazing quality for my viewers, and be able to accommodate my personality within my POSH PC build. So I hope that my dream set up will come true! Thank you for this awesome opportunity! - Rachelle 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook adohm2016 ✭ September 2020 edited September 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=9e380c6a-2392-4055-9bff-2a48f9197986 I just got into streaming on Twitch (username atsukoraimu) when I got Super Mario All-Stars and I am having such a good time that I want to build out my setup more. Lighting is currently my must-have. I have a good microphone, headset and camera but not enough lighting for my 3D avatar to recognize my facial expressions! Streaming gives me a dedicated time for gaming, away from my phone (unless I am googling something). It also gives me some social aspects to chat with other gamers that have the same interests as myself. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Joyboy ✭ October 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/streaming-studio-builder.aspx?load=e82b11b2-470e-4bce-868a-ad111ac1d39a I stream on twitch. Don't have a lot of experience at it but learning a lot so far. Lighting  for my stream is the one thing  I have not invested on yet, and believe I must have because I have seen how inconsistent my the colors in my stream are based on what the time. After doing lots of research I made up my mind the the lighting for the stream is a must have if you are trying a to have a professional looking stream. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mmiller2 admin October 2020 Thanks for all the submissions! The winner is @GanjaGremlin ! Please check your email for next steps 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook This discussion has been closed. 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Overall one of the best builds if you find a GPU. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=024784ae-8bf5-48ca-9310-eec4380fb61b 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ChickenMan85 ✭ May 25 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=9b2e7f52-3f6f-4420-93de-39c3dd7c81be Great setup and the parts included will allow me to upgrade old rig for my 13yr old son so we can game together. GPU shortage 🤬 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kuan_Darius_19 ✭ May 25 I am going to be honest I just took this as a chance to build the gaming pc of my current dreams. So take what I have done with a grain of salt in terms of if i have done better or not.https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=534459a6-07aa-461f-9944-9d39b22e4243 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BahamutBBob ✭ May 25 I wanted to build a new PC this year, but it didn't happen for multiple reasons. Winning this would go a long way towards replacing my old i5 2500k! Thanks for doing this contest. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=1e2acecc-420b-43fc-b2f0-4ad7d4a9eec7 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Willing ✭ May 26 I decided to amp up past all of the default choices you folks made, without going too ridiculous. One of the pieces I've been eyeing is the LG Monitor--I love 38 inch ultrawides, and this is allegedly the best one on the market at the moment. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=284ac82c-0445-431d-a764-79f5a4ebb57a 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Vaughn ✭ May 26 THE G.D.R.M AKA - GREEN DREAM RGB MACHINE https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=82c05ec2-b9d9-48fe-88d6-fa4383e9bf1c To Whom it may concern, Bells? Whistles? Bright lights? Goodnights? Some of the key features missing from the sad state of the baseline build. If I could figure out a way to add a griddle to the build list I would have, to go full RGB ham and cheese (on brioche) on this build. Thankfully, I was able to build this sweet dream of a machine due to the easy use of the handy dandy Micro Center Custom PC Builder. It was no sweat building a PC with no limit on money and bound only to the limit of my imagination. Math? Compatability? Worry of blowing the budget? All of these worries are gone thanks to the Custom PC Builder.... now how do we add a replenish stock on GPU button?😁 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kenji11 ✭ May 26 Well for starters I wanted to make a build that I could actually afford so I went for a well rounded pc within my budget of $1200 (I made sure every dollar counted!). Of course I would love to go with a RTX 3070 for my gpu but for the near future that seems kinda imposible, so in the meantime I'll settle with a GTX 1650 and pray that the prices go down next year. I actually don't have any experience building pc's, so feel free to leave any suggestions! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=ff6a002f-dcf2-4476-8cd9-39bbb66071f7 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BrianLewis ✭ May 26 I was making my own budget build and thought I would share. I feel the i5-11400 CPUs are really underrated here and figured I would share the build I was planning on purchasing soon. I left off the video card because of the shortage, and because I was planning on using my old 1060 in my current computer until things calm down anyway. Build total is $723, which I think is pretty reasonable for being able to play any game on the market. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=a064b80a-93b9-45dd-94d8-c4554c884851 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JaykeT ✭ May 26 Now, over here, *slaps roof of PC* we have a fine piece of computing circuitry Basically, this build is the build to start all builds. A nice middle ground between budget and performance, this build is not too flashy with the RGB, but still has a nice good look to it. It also features some of the better performing parts on the market, but goes to the cheaper side instead of jumping as expensive as it gets. All in all, its a well rounded PC with plenty of upgrade potential and plenty of fun hours playing with friends ahead. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=4bcc6c04-5d54-48fa-94f3-22bc10e0aa59 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Fin ✭ May 26 I chose to go full "balls to the wall" and "zero compromises" to quote LTT, since there was no budget. I chose a Ryzen 9 5950X and EVGA 3090 as my CPU and GPU. Also a Samsung 1TB 980 Pro for my boot drive, and a Samsung 2TB 980 Pro for my game drive, both PCIe Gen 4 for maximum speed. For the other parts I picked 64GB of Corsair Dominator RAM at 3200MHz and CL16, an Asus ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, a Elgato 4K60Pro Capture Card, and a Maingear 1000W power supply. Along with that, I chose to watercool the entire system, including the SSDs. I used the Corsair XC9 CPU Block, 2 XR7 360mm Radiators, 2 Corsair XM2 M.2 SSD waterblocks, a Bitspower 3090 GPU block, and the Lian Li O11 Dynamic Distribution block. I chose to use Corsair XL5 Coolant in blue. I didn't include hard/soft line tubing, or fittings, but did include a Windows 10 Pro license. This beast of a system is housed in the black Lian Li O11 Dynamic. I also went zero compromises on the RGB, because it makes a system run 1,000,000% faster. I included a 24pin Lian Li Strimer Cable, 3 8pin Strimer cables for the 3090, and 9 Corsair QL120mm fans, for the full RGB effect. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=a8f36bb9-a695-449c-afab-00425478588d 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook WillG ✭ May 26 This was fun. My last several builds have been frankensteins, adding one or two new major components to my existing build and then replacing something else the next time the fancy strikes. I've had the same build going now for 12 years with no original parts remaining, just replacing one or two things at a time. I usually take the still in-good-shape parts i take off and pass them down the line to either my file server or media server computers. Next in line when I upgrade my main is to build out a home security hub. Anyway, here's my from the ground up build: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=ca0a6809-62e1-4061-a15d-9ed26bf9f27e 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Chans ✭ May 27 The focus of my case was optimizing for airflow and reducing fan noise. The case already comes with 3 front fans and a mesh front, and I will be adding in a 280mm AIO at the top. There are only two 140mm fans, which should be quieter than three 120mm fans, and they can push about the same amount of air. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=da462b13-3456-43ae-b252-219455cec3b9 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Togegawa ✭ May 27 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=26f7caee-d6c0-4cfb-8bab-01001ee6f6c7 very little of that rgb stuff to distract you from the games. went with lit keyboard so you can play in the dark no compromises and has blue ray drive so you can play those games that still come on disk. Used 4tb surveillance drive for longevity combined with 1tb solid state drive which should cover the endless windows updates.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Slavicjoe6797 ✭ May 27 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=3e937438-532f-4fde-a4e6-16ab5b003152 My rig I am currently getting the parts for now some are different like my GPU is actually a GTX 780 Ti Ryzen 7 3700x, Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus (WiFi), Crucial Ballistics 16 GB kit (8 x 2) DDR4-3200 CL16, Lian Li Lancool 205, SeaSonic Focus GX-750 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold, Evga RTX 3060, Samsung 980 1 TB SSD, Seagate 2 TB HDD, Windows 10 Home 32/64, Corsair K55RGB PRO Keyboard, Asus ROG Sheath Pink Mousepad, Asus ROG VG248QEZ 1920x1080 144hz monitor, Corsair SP120 RGB Pro 120mm Triple pack fan kit, and Corsair Harpoon RGB Pro Mouse Total cost is $1,878 I went with these parts with performence, cost, and looks in mind. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MasterChef58327 ✭ May 27 I took the base system and tweaked it to be a solid mid-range PC with a solid upgrade path. To start, the Ryzen 5 3600 is a solid performing CPU. However, if an upgrade becomes necessary, the motherboards versatile AM4 Socket and B550 chipset is compatible with RYZEN 5000+. Moving along, the 16gb of G.Skill ram is nothing special, but it gets the job done, and can be added upon. The NZXT H510 is a sleek case with no bells or whistles but is the perfect base any budget build. The Thermaltake 700-watt PSU I have selected should be reliable and powerful enough to power any modern or upcoming GPU, allowing for major upgrades without also having to upgrade the PSU. The Gigabyte GTX 1650 OC 4G was my obvious choice for this build as it is one of the only GPU’s that can be found for a reasonable price at the moment. Once again, this component is satisfactory for most basic workloads, and will get the job done for most people, and is still faster than any current Integrated GPU’s. Overtime as GPU prices decrease, this part can easily be upgraded to something faster thanks to the large PSU. For a boot drive, I chose an Inland Professional 256GB m.2. SSD, and for general storage, I chose a 2tb 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda. I also added Peripherals to the build. For the keyboard, I went with the Corsair K55RGB PRO, which just happens to be the same keyboard I am typing this with. Likewise, for the mouse I chose the Logitech G502, because it is something that I use everyday without fault. For the monitor I went with an ASUS VP228HE 21.5’’ 75hz simply because it is satisfactory enough for most users and because it kept the build right around $1,000. To recap the computer build itself without peripherals was $800 even. This is realistically what I would build with current pricing. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=8969ca6b-1a58-48d4-ac8d-27e612c4b157 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Deathbringer1100 ✭ May 27 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=0e8d9c59-223b-41f1-bcd0-b0fc59217a86 This PC is a total beast. It can handle anything you can throw at it. However it is super expensive. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DaxterbeerGMS ✭ May 27 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=1b56ae62-2d6e-4fd9-a66a-7bf46c347da9 Splurge 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TheFamousChrisA ✭ May 27 I chose this build because it's better than anything I'm using right now and all I want out of it is the graphics card and an awesome new CPU. Maybe one day I could afford something amazing like this because I've been stuck with a 2700x and 1070 since 2018 and need a new PC for work. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=94bbee9c-1425-413d-a11b-ebb93c30f319 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Sagemode_path ✭ May 28 My pc build is a COMPLETE JOKE! I know it looks insanely overpriced but its really fun to see just how much someone can spend on a pc setup LOL. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=6d21b98a-6d65-4175-9a4a-5b0893037fe1 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Bitcoin Alpharetta ✭ May 28 Ok, So I just clicked the highest value components More money = better right? https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=842d49b2-6371-4e2c-aee4-85de24fcb228 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Klabunde ✭ May 28 edited May 28 This is my "entry/mid-tier" level PC. This PC is a "upgrade gradually" type of system, meant to be upgraded down the road and upgraded easily. With this in mind, my budget was set to be around 1000$ with the intent of being able to continue to save up and upgrade specific parts down the road. Without the Same Day Pro Assembly, this system will cost about 925$ with tax included. I chose to go with the R5 3600 for its 6 cores which are enough for gaming and small CPU workloads. This CPU also comes with its own CPU cooler, so we can also save some costs there. I chose to go with a B450 motherboard as it will still support 5000 series Ryzen processors if you want to upgrade down the road, and save on the overall cost of the system. I decided to go with 2x8GB of Crucial 3200mhz memory, this is pretty much the recommended specs for memory nowadays while gaming and should last for a while. This kit is fairly valued and can easily be doubled down the road. I chose the Fractal Design Meshify C case for its reviews, ratings, and price. This is a great case to just throw everything into for its price. I also chose this originally for its 2 included fans in the case. However, I decided to add a 5 pack of additional black fans for more cooling. I kept the GTX 1650 for the GPU as it is a great value card for its price and fits well within the overall build of this system. I decided to swap out the 2.5" SSD for a 512GB M.2 SSD for its faster read/write speeds, and going with an M.2 SSD allows us to save space and add either more hard drives or 2.5" SSD's in the future. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=19170be3-3379-486c-bc0f-836eb664305e 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Noosh ✭ May 28 In this pc with a budget of 1000 dollars, I have managed to squeeze in an EVGA 3060, and an i5 10600k. For entry-level gaming, this would be the top of the line, for this price. With 16 gigs of ram and 1TB storage, this PC would last a very long time, and keep up with future programs and games. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=3e443f54-c914-4771-9666-c8596a0598a6 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook SwimBoi ✭ May 28 edited May 28 If we're actually aiming for <$500, Intel is the budget option. And we can get away with waiting for a GPU when budget allows. For just $423 you can have the basics! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=7079e418-db23-4637-9a69-f66f53292b0f 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AndresValverde29 ✭ May 29 edited May 29 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=27779c78-973c-466b-a1d5-ff70d94e0457 Budget of $ 1000. I chose these components because I will start editing video and streaming. When I have it I will be able to play at 1080 and 144fps or more. I will also take advantage of the special chip of the RTX 3060 graphics card to be able to stream and play at the same time, in addition to taking advantage of the characteristics of the RYZEN 5 5600X to be able to edit fluently, in addition to having a good performance in games. And add some RGB to it to increase fps in games 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Tunaphish6 ✭ May 29 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=96d4f4e7-5bce-40c4-9988-db2afaedceab Pandemic and mining inflation aside, this would be my dream build. During better times, I seriously looked at a similar to this , but the fan on the x570 always threw me off, especially considering there were limited quantities of motherboard models at the time. I'm sure I'd be fine the the B570 chipset since I think you're namely buying the PCie lanes for that chipset. As for the rest of the build, can't really go wrong with that PSU (good oem), MSI for the GPU, and G.Skill for the RAM (Corsair and Crucial generally are cheap as far as quality is concerned). Inland SSD is fast and cheap, and can't go wrong with an oversized Noctua CPU fan--hard to find a better alternative, even when watercooling is concerned. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AllTheCowbell ✭ May 29 A dream upgrade to my current machine. Love the LianLi O11 but my RX5700XT is starting to get a little long in the tooth. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=24e9a2a0-ad68-4aff-89c8-00260131c123 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Toddas ✭ May 29 Bit under 2K, leaving out some parts that I already have laying around - probably not optimized, but can be later improved. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=454e99de-6e38-427f-a941-f29649b01bc1 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kieah ✭ May 29 Made a classic build for a streamer/gamer! This build is budget friendly with a nice black and white theme. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=1dbaedce-42d0-4fc2-b875-3a4d93e38714 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook teteh124 ✭ May 30 This is a al out overkill build, and is corsair themed pc with a LOT of RGB everywhere. I chose not to put the 3090 in this since corsair hasn't released a block for it and its not on the micro center website therefore I went with the 3080. It has a full custom water loop with rgb everywhere. There wasnt a commander pro that i could find in the website so i couldnt put that in there but i would do that if there was a option for it. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=05018ffd-9723-43f0-b31b-c7ee9b47d283 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook SkiiLyne ✭ May 31 This is the "if scalpers didn't exist, this pc would be mid range" build https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx#selector_84 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…891011121314» This discussion has been closed. 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Some things I would change if it were an option to pick from on the builder would be the new Ryzen 9 5950x, an Asus X570 motherboard, an Rtx 3090 (then would switch to a bigger psu), and add on some more streaming gear, like lights, cam link, green screen. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=33fb3bcd-2fab-4d63-be34-23d30c53c43f 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook rich531 ✭ May 20 I wanted to go all out on a PC so here is my build: https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=6a6fba5f-13ae-413b-adcb-7865b584aa00 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Beastmaster64 ✭ May 20 Most likely not the best pc build on here or even close to yours but here's my take on the contest. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=d2dafa0d-a4e5-42c5-aacd-5e15a68b7382 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook toilethhhh ✭ May 20 this is my dream pc the only thing i would change is the gpu,i would change it to a 3080,the pc is way more powerful than i would ever need https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=64a4f7ad-6d00-4298-b8c5-167a0eca08d9 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JaeMendo ✭ May 20 I took the starting build, and chucked it out the window. I created an enthusiast gaming/content creator pc that focuses on performance, and ignores your measly budget while not going too crazy on the RGB. This build is great for someone looking to start with, or upgrade to a high tier gaming and content creation experience that will keep up with the pc gaming scene for years to come. Can't quite afford it? Maybe winning the Micro Center $500 gift card giveaway can help you with that. Goodluck entrants! 😉 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=18f66df1-8694-4546-90a1-a0675a919d7b 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook RandomAccount42 ✭ May 20 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=6a2badf2-7207-4622-b640-d2cef29acafc Configured this. Was going for a mainly black theme with silver accents, hence the trident z neo and x570 taichi. Wanted the system to be quite high end and be capable of games, 3d artwork, or whatever else. wanted to make the system good for overclocking as well. I decided not to go with custom loop cooling, just because I couldn't find parts that I thought would compliment the build well enough. Made sure the system had good expandability, with plenty of onboard headers and pcie slots (in case the user were to ever need a sound card, legacy ports, or something like that.) I also tried to pick parts based on ease of service and repair (like the gpu). CPU: r9 5900x because it is about as fast as it gets for now, without going to over the top of a 5950x or switching to threadripper GPU: rtx 3080 suprim, really fast. that specific card also had really good cooling. The card is also fairly easy to take apart, which is not only good for potentially liquid mettaling up front, but also for being abkle to service the card down the line. The card also fit the aesthetic of the built quite well in my opinion. motherboard: x570 taichi, chose mainly because it fit the theme of the build also, good vrm for overclocking, good expandability with lots of PCIe slots. Also since it is x570 it has a chance of being supported by next gen ryzen cpus (unless ddr5 happens next generation) also it has a ps/2 port for a glorious model m keyboard:) Ram: fit theme of build, also quite fast, not to mention I have had good experience with overclocking gskill ram case: large case with very good cooling, quite versatile. It also has a bunch of nice addon features like hot swap bays and usb front panel. All around just a good case in my opinion drives: decided to go with a 2tb gen 4 nvme for boot drive, then have 4tb of sata ssd and 6tb of mechanical. Cause with the size of modern games, you can never have enough storage. The rest of the parts were chosen either because they fit the theme of the build, has good performance or both. Notes: -usb optical drive would be included for OS install since it is cheaper to buy the dvd version and an external optical drive than buy the usb version, and having an optical drive is nice in case you ever need it. -Liquid metal is intended for gpu (while putting nail polish or something on the SMDs for protection), most people don't put it in between the ihs and the cooler, so I would just use paste for the cpu. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook YoungK ✭ May 20 This components list is for people that are just getting into pc building but it does not have a graphics card because of the gpu shortage that is happening right now. So, I have put in a i5-11600K for integrated graphics (UHD 750) which from watching some videos can run most e-sports titles at 100 fps on high setting, and I gave it a 650 watt power supply so that you have enough wattage to put in at most a RTX 3060ti. Maybe you could put a 3070 but you might need more wattage. This pc is estimated to be 854.92 + tax. In my opinion, this is a pretty decent pc for this price. I hope this is a good list! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=ab8f6242-d261-4d1b-8f99-360e7d62ed86 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Rocksteady2090 ✭ May 20 edited May 20 This would be my dream build.. I will never ever be able to own this build because my wife would never let me spend 4k + on a pc lol I just closed my eyes and dreamed for a bit :) https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=159877a9-0efc-48c9-88d8-35319a8aca66 *note it would be 7k + just noticed no price due to the gpu's being out of stock.. so yea dead man for sure lol 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Drax ✭ May 20 This is a complete build, From the whole pc to peripherals. This would be a great midish tier gaming pc with a nice headset with nice desk speakers. Display could be better, same with the cpu but I feel like a strong pairing for entry level gaming. There is nothing else you would need unless a router needs an upgrade. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=eb692128-3ee7-45e4-8824-90765a46a5c9 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook doquii ✭ May 20 Team red small beast!!! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=7b0c8625-d61c-4aa8-8de4-7d88c8a93270 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Will_Olson Michigan ✭ May 20 I felt your build is solid for someone looking for their first pc, but felt there could be some better performance at a slightly lower cost. CPU- Went ahead and swapped the i7 9700k for a slightly better performing ryzen 5 3600. Performance wise its very similar, being a slight improvement, but where it makes the big difference is the operating cost and wattage it requires. Its a more efficient cpu and is helpful for the power supply later on to save some more money and allocate more space for the GPU. Motherboard- B550 Phantom gaming, a cheaper motherboard that still has all the features needed for someone building their first. Has support for dual channel and high speed ram sticks, as well as plenty of m.2 and sata ports. Case- Corsair 400D airflow, in my opinion its a better looking case and also has the usb-c port on the top panel that the lian li is missing. RAM- Went ahead and added some RGB to the build, though there are better ways of doing this than spending $30 more on ram instead of using LED strips. PSU- Saved quite a bit downgrading the psu to a 750W semi modular bronze rating. While its not the best you can get, it saves some good money and will have no problem powering this system and even future upgrades. GPU- The ryzen 5 has integrated graphics for the time being until you can get a gpu at a reasonable price. For this type of build I would suggest a 3060ti, a perfect card for the price for 1080p or 1440p gaming. Storage- Nvme 1tb drive to put games and windows on for faster boot times. Included as well is a 2TB HDD for additional storage for less commonly played games and software. Without the storage, the price beats the given build while even adding some RGB. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=50f9c2f6-ec61-4f87-be71-6083506ded69 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Little_Light ✭ May 20 Here's my take on a budget build https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=be7b3066-b3f1-4af5-8e04-265882cfb040 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook hellasleeper ✭ May 20 I chose the most over the top build I could. This is basically my dream setup, with a few caveats. Caveats include (but not limited to): gpu upgraded to an Asus Strix 3090, psu upgraded to an ROG Thor 80+ Platinum w/ OLED, Glorious panda switches for the barebones keyboard I selected, Krytox 205g0 (gotta get them switches lubed), Lian Li Strimer Plus for 24pin and 8 pin. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=a3569dc5-3315-4cfa-ba99-3ec82971307c 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kraftmacancheese ✭ May 20 Introducing the JUICER9000. this powerhouse of a gaming pc is ready for all your gaming needs, whether it be late night degenerate gaming hours with the bois or streaming for all the world to see how bad you are at the game. The JUICER9000 coming to you soon, we hope. :) https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=b0660858-408c-48b4-a81d-8239ba054310 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Payton_B ✭ May 20 I had been planning to put this all-Corsair and ROG build together this Summer, but that didn't quite work out for obvious reasons. While not totally top of the line, this build is far more capable than anything I need at the time and was intended as a future-proof investment. The Ryzen 9 5900X is the crown jewel of the build, sacrificing a small amount of single core performance compared to the i9 10900K in favor of AMD's exceptional multi-core performance and far better power efficiency. For the GPU, the ROG Strix OC 3070 was an easy choice because it delivers solid performance, cooling, and visual appeal without taking up half of the budget. The rest of the components were chosen for a combination of value, performance, and appearance. For example, the LL120 fans were chosen to specifically to match the ML120s included with the H150i, while the Crucial P5 was chosen because it delivers speeds which keep relative pace with the processor in combination with the B550-F chipset without breaking the bank. All in all, I designed a machine that I could be proud of for a long time. I also put together a blackout design which is largely the same, but replaces the H150i with an NZXT Kraken X73, the Vengeance RGB Pro memory with Vengeance LPX memory of the same configuration and clock speed, and the LL120 case fans with the same configuration of Noctua NF-F12 Chromax Black fans. If for some reason I couldn't find one of the RGB parts, this was a very solid plan B. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=d221226e-ac54-4ae2-bdee-d8badf16150d 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Darkitect ✭ May 20 I'm a graphic designer who likes to game casually. I built a system that can handle anything I throw at it right now, and is moderately futureproofed for whatever needs I may have down the line. While I normally wouldn't put much stock in aesthetics, this competition presents an opportunity to "splurge" on making the system look nice while not sacrificing on power. While many seem to be over the white themed builds, I still love it! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=62d6b68c-5420-4832-a7ca-1d16bafcfaa1 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook robotxbot ✭ May 20 i tried to go with the best pairing so that the CPU nor GPU would be a bottleneck, and tried to do my best to make it look as clean as possible. I went with a black color scheme. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=bd0738a3-19c3-4864-8cef-3271e28ec8dd 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook oCephaso ✭ May 20 This build is the best bang for the buck and will last 6 to 10 years easily barring any hardware failures. RGB lighting is really for show but you spend most of the time in the same room with it so why not make it look pretty? https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=82290c46-9857-4dca-8804-7c6f3592b244 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Aquarial ✭ May 20 I decided to use the tools available to just build the most ballinest pc I could ever want with a white theme and a whole lot of RGB. In terms of performance and aesthetic there isn't much you can do better. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=8765dd65-621f-410d-91bb-f2b2e960bf38 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Auro ✭ May 20 About a year ago I bought my first desktop pc for about 850$ on woot with the intent to be used for my studies in college. I am an aspiring music producer and game developer. This pc served to enable my creativity. But I soon realized that I had not gotten a powerful enough pc for all the adventures I had embarked on. So I started looking into how to improve my performance. And some months later this frustration of getting the most of my gear had actually become enjoyable. So I went down my usual path with new hobbies, an internet/ youtube rabbit hole to go down. And thus I found Linus tech tips. It has been a few months now and I have learned so much from the guy. And now that I am more knowledgeable I will attempt to build my pc again for the same about of money as before (850$) with the intent of my school work. Cpu: I went with the Six-Core i5-11600K with a clock speed of 3.9 GHz for its 12 high-performing treads. Currently, I have a Four-Core i7 6700 with an overclocked 3.75 GHz thread speed, but it has only 8 treads. This significantly decreases my productivity in Ableton (music production). With 50% more/better threads I would be able to work with a higher fidelity of real-time audio in my work. Plus it was the best value for the money that I found Motherboard: I went with the small form factor microATX Motherboard from ASRock for its support for my CPU's chipset and its size. I want my rig to be small but powerful. Ram: I got 4 8GB sticks of DDR4-3000 memory to maximize the capabilities of my motherboard and CPU. Much faster than my current ram's clock speed, DDR3-2133 MHz. Case: I found the small form factor case LANCOOL 205M Mid-Tower Chassis Micro ATX as an alright fit for my components with some pretty nifty features at a reasonable price. Power supply: My rig will not be pulling too much wattage at the moment and I do not intend to throw a heavy video card into this rig. So, a corsair CX650M 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze has enough power to work for all the use cases I will be running. Also, I will be using less than half of the watts this power supply is rated for so that should reduce the fan noise quite a bit. Memory: For my rig, I need fast load times for my audio effects and samples so I chose to use 512 GB M.2 3.0 SSD for my operating system and my most used samples (audio files are not that large). I also chose to use a BarraCuda 2TB Hard drive for all my additional storage needs. ( I currently have a 1TB SSD ) I also threw in a CPU cooler to control my terms and we are all set. Now armed with the knowledge that Linus tech tips have given my I significantly upgraded my rig with the same amount of money. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=85422ead-8bfd-4d55-a6e7-29e6a837e393 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook CnixBoy ✭ May 20 You can never go wrong with to much RGB. Most my components are corsair since they do RGB the best. The build is very flashy and not the most budget friendly but it will light up the room and give you more fps due to so much RGBhttps://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=499a3d4d-9341-4947-803d-5ea4eb1514cb 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook KlYR ✭ May 20 well since the RGB ,budget and all out themes were taken i went for the next closest theme to my heart : A RESPECTABLE OVERCLOCKING MANIAC WITH A TOUCH OF RGB, all while hitting that perfect 1k price. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=353902d8-e3fa-425f-a354-b538426409e8 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook InvixRipoff ✭ May 20 I made a budget-friendly gaming computer. it should run games such as Warzone, GTA, Minecraft, CSGO etc. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=83e3a638-fcd2-4895-99dc-64406a2d52a3 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook gdev1 ✭ May 20 This build is way better than the base. It has most of the best components to be one of the best rigs out there. This is a dream machine anybody would want. It can do it all when it comes to heavy multitasking, gaming, video editing, streaming, and 3d rendering. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=7b2608d1-0988-4cb0-b6d9-8d2ff1671a82 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Grarrg ✭ May 20 I call it the Silver Sparkle Monster. Highest end components available. Easy case to build in. And of course lots of ARGB! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=88bba8cb-989e-4e67-9b42-5f7015da7e7f 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Shin_Gouki ✭ May 20 Basically what I have but some better parts (With some limitations based on what the builder has listed for parts) https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=37107ac6-633f-462d-a6cb-6feb82fd5559 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Brail ✭ May 20 Gaming/workstation setup that will last you years https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=edf45052-b29c-4294-9b95-003bdad550b8 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Yang ✭ May 20 edited May 20 I bought a gpu, actually I got in line and waited for one. Now this build is perfect with the GPU I have. Game and work. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=7585635a-9516-437e-89a4-2e0bf8d91113 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Clear17Mud ✭ May 20 This is pretty much what I am waiting to upgrade too, I am still waiting for threadripper CPUs with the new zen cores. It would also be nice to get a 3090 once they are consistently in stock. Pretty much this is what I am planning on upgrading to. I added a UPS and Wifi router, because why not! The case is a place holder, because I have a different case in mind, and I already have a 1200w power supply that I will use instead of the 850W one that I have chosen. This isn't the most bang for the buck for gaming. Its pretty over kill! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=b232e9b5-dc49-4675-aaf6-605c5f116177 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook middle_pickup ✭ May 20 I selected generic parts that I'll never be able to afford totaling into what seems like a monster PC. $500 bucks would be nice towards a new laptop for school. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=fb7b9a1a-28cb-403c-95fb-677fde8b0781 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…3456789…14» This discussion has been closed. 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A GTX 750Ti will do ~100k PPD.  The GTX 1050Ti will do ~200k PPD, neither of these cards require a pcie pwr plug.  Folding maintains a list of GPUs  & pwr efficiency https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRcR50eJc1MC60klR5d8R1jeYspg3RAMbeEeguvybakdmy0kM3E-_IDcjbsUwhzhGrzhgSpPRqEQ7Ek/pubhtml   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 ryau said: Interesting, not sure I want to switch to Linux, but I did manage to fine tune my config to get about a 20-25% increase in PPD. I have a 3950X (16C/32T) and found running multiple CPU slots with 4 threads each seems optimal. I've also applied a mild CPU OC, but am leery of pushing it too much as temps climb pretty high for not much performance gain. Now is it more efficient to break up the cpu on a intel chip as well just wondering because I just left it as it was when I installed the [email protected] app?  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 cine_chris said: kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  I'm diffidently up for taking part in it if we can do it as a team. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 CRANK It uP!  Look at the teams we're chasing: Reddit, Ukraine, Brazil, Hewlett Packard, Google, ASRock. Check out the Overclockers Top 100 analysis page: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php 3 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ryau ✭✭✭✭✭ May 2020 cine_chris said: kmiller922 said: Well we may be down to 48.6% of the total users we had but we are still turning and burning   GO TEAM Spotted this on the Overclockers site.  Looks like they do this monthly. https://www.overclock.net/forum/55-overclock-net-folding-home-team/1747616-may-2020-foldathon-monday-25th-wednesday-27th-1200-et-1600-utc.html Not meaning to sound critical, but MC could likely find several options for sustaining interest for the team folders.  Even achievement certificates would be nice, t-shirts, hats, gift certificates, etc  Interesting idea... I'll see what I can do. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ryau ✭✭✭✭✭ May 2020 kmiller922 said: ryau said: Interesting, not sure I want to switch to Linux, but I did manage to fine tune my config to get about a 20-25% increase in PPD. I have a 3950X (16C/32T) and found running multiple CPU slots with 4 threads each seems optimal. I've also applied a mild CPU OC, but am leery of pushing it too much as temps climb pretty high for not much performance gain. Now is it more efficient to break up the cpu on a intel chip as well just wondering because I just left it as it was when I installed the [email protected] app?  It's been many years since I last folded on an Intel CPU, so I'm not sure. Maybe @TSMichaelB might have some insights? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kirito ✭✭ May 2020 Something I have been following loosely... The number of exabytes is down to 2.1.  We were folding over 2.4 at the beginning of my journey here.  This means every team is losing members.  FAH needs to get itself back in the press again.  More importantly, there needs to be a way to find a community that hasn't been tapped to help out.  MIght I suggest a few ideas... Stadiums and Arenas: (When not in use there are hundreds of computers sitting idle in a stadium) Start a town computing project:          Every town that has a library or town hall take one computer and set it up to run FAH.  As of 2018, there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. 14,768 of these have populations below 5,000.  Presume 15000 computers at a minimum of a Core2Duo.  That's 60,000 cores producing 20 Petaflops. Hospitals and clinics:        There are over 7000 hospitals and clinics in the US.  Imagine if every hospital and clinic contributed one computer to the cause. Corporations:       There are tens of thousands of corporations across the US.  Some are small, some are huge.  Most have an IT department.  Take one scrap computer (or more) and set up FAH stations around the company, showing how they are supporting the fight against disease. I don't have the connections to get these ideas to people except on a one on one basis.  As a grass roots methodology I am just one person and I have tried to encourage people to join this fight.  Others are in better places to make changes, and kick this up to WSU for them to consider.  I presume WSU has a marketing team?  I'm just an idea guy.  Maybe someone here knows how to run with it. Be cool, Kirito 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 I'd also add to that list every towns schools as well as colleges and university's. There are so many places that have the cpu and gpu that could be put towards the efforts. The only thing is getting the media attention that it deserves is going to be at best difficult for those that do have connections in the industry. @ryau Would you by chance have any contacts you could use? 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 @Kirito As an engineer (retired) I like to look at the efficiency of the system & impact +/- overall.  In general, most CPUs aren't efficient folders on a PPD/$ or PPD/watt basis.  So, ganging hordes of inefficient systems, especially during summer months doesn't appeal to me, nor would it appeal to corporations or municipalities that are forced to consider the logistics and answer to shareholders or voters that see no immediate benefit.  Leveraging gaming platforms makes the most sense to me.  Getting  Xboxes or Playstations to Fold, perhaps adopting legacy gaming boxes could make a huge difference as a research tool.  Perhaps a virtual world where you need PPDs to recharge your laser cannons, energy xtals, or life support system.   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 @kmiller922  While participation has dwindled, MCO must be fairing better than other teams, as we are at #20 for the week, up +12!!!  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭✭ May 2020 Big drop in points today across the board. Wonder if the servers are having issues again. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 MightyMayfield said: Big drop in points today across the board. Wonder if the servers are having issues again. I noticed most of my units are timing about the same crunch time so points might come as big burst. There was also a line of sever storms that came through and is still going through about half of the country some producing sever damage which might be the cause as well for the point drop off also. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 cine_chris said: @kmiller922  While participation has dwindled, MCO must be fairing better than other teams, as we are at #20 for the week, up +12!!!  It does seem that way. I took notice that we picked up a few new people as well which of course is great! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kirito ✭✭ May 2020 cine_chris said: @Kirito As an engineer (retired) I like to look at the efficiency of the system & impact +/- overall.  In general, most CPUs aren't efficient folders on a PPD/$ or PPD/watt basis.  So, ganging hordes of inefficient systems, especially during summer months doesn't appeal to me, nor would it appeal to corporations or municipalities that are forced to consider the logistics and answer to shareholders or voters that see no immediate benefit.  Leveraging gaming platforms makes the most sense to me.  Getting  Xboxes or Playstations to Fold, perhaps adopting legacy gaming boxes could make a huge difference as a research tool.  Perhaps a virtual world where you need PPDs to recharge your laser cannons, energy xtals, or life support system.   I agree.   Last I heard Sony wasn't going to embed anything new and the PS3 isn't really efficient anymore.  I am not much of a gamer and have no experience with X-Box.  It would be nice if Microsoft could help.  While CPU's might not be the most efficient answer the goal of using a distributed computing system is to have more systems online.  If we could get a full scale bitcoin mining warehouse on this (1000 GPU networked system) we could possibly model the Singularity, but unless there is compensation no one is going to contribute that.  My logic is to get more systems online from people and places who will ultimately benefit from the solutions found in FAH.  Sure, I would love to get some nice GPU's.  My Lenovo Think-Stations do not accommodate them.  I don't have the money  for them.  I have 52 cores across four computers I can contribute so that is what I do.  I believe others could contribute what they can and if they did we would have that many more weapons to use on this disease. This is more of the social model of helping people to see the value of the technology beside surfing YouTube and checking email.  This also distributes the power costs over a broader range of people.  This logic could also be applied globally.  "What if they gave a war for a virus and everyone came?"  Declaring war against Covid-19 as a full political model, and then develop strategy and tactics appropriately we could be more efficient about beating it. Defense:      Social Distancing      Face masks      Working from home      Contact tracing      Support Systems (Hospitals, Testing)      Home front contributions                              FAH, Making Masks, Ventilators Offense:      Intel:        Scientific research, data sampling, Virus Modeling      Attack:     Vaccination, Medication      Weapons:     Distributed computer modeling, scientific research facilities, pharmaceutical plants      Support systems:     IT, FAH, Communications We are just one part of this war.  We do our job.  We need more Rosie the Riveter's, one rivet at a time, helping to find the answer to this. FAH gives people a way to contribute, to fight the war, instead of being locked in their house and powerless.  We may not be the most efficient, but when we work together we can overwhelm the problems. So in the end it may be less about efficiency, and more about pulling people together. Like I said, its just an idea.  I just don't know how to reach a broader audience with it.  I am just a geek with a few computers.  I'm not a salesman.  I just operate equipment.  I just think it would be better if we had more weapons at our disposal. Kirito 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Tramp78 ✭✭ May 2020 We are 30th in active users 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 @MightyMayfield congratz on making it to 600 there bud. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 2020 cine_chris said: MissingNOLA said: Question for those who know better than I: I've gotten an old Core2Duo system resurrected with a Linux OS.  The graphics card is too ancient to fold and this CPU doesn't eek out enough points to justify its power drain.  Anyone know of a cheap PCIe GPU that would work in this clunker to make it worthwhile?  Don't want to spend much since folding is the only use this box will ever get. A GTX 750Ti will do ~100k PPD.  The GTX 1050Ti will do ~200k PPD, neither of these cards require a pcie pwr plug.  Folding maintains a list of GPUs  & pwr efficiency https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRcR50eJc1MC60klR5d8R1jeYspg3RAMbeEeguvybakdmy0kM3E-_IDcjbsUwhzhGrzhgSpPRqEQ7Ek/pubhtml   For just a few dollars more than a GTX 1050 TI, a regular GTX 1650 doesn't require a power plug either.  It's only when you get to the 1650 Super does it require a 6 pin power plug.  I guess it all depends on what your definition of "cheap" is.  1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 I have a GPU card which seems to be stuck on Download status.  Has anyone else seen this behavior?  The only thing I see in the log is when I tried to pause and unpause it.  This looks different than when it can't find a work order to download: ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused ******************************* Date: 2020-05-25 ******************************* work server is: 206.223.170.146 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 you might try a memory purge by rebooting make sure you pause folding before you do when your system comes back up it will restart. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 ChrisHarshman said: I have a GPU card which seems to be stuck on Download status.  Has anyone else seen this behavior?  The only thing I see in the log is when I tried to pause and unpause it.  This looks different than when it can't find a work order to download: Windows? Yes. In 2nd slot. Device Mgr showed error 43 (iirc) Had to install Nvidia, update drivers, fixed it. Worked OK in 1st slot. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ChrisHarshman ✭✭ May 2020 @cine_chris, thanks for the response, but this is a Linux machine, I guess I should have specified that. @kmiller922, after pausing, updating, and rebooting, then the control program couldn't talk to the client program.  I verified client program was running, but at OS command line it wasn't responding if I tried stop, restart, or even log. Digging around I found the log file before what I posted, which confirms it did start downloading the next work item but never finished: 10:04:33:WU00:FS01:Download 11.84% 10:04:40:WU00:FS01:Download 12.67% ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* ******************************* Date: 2020-05-24 ******************************* 03:42:42:FS01:Paused 03:42:48:FS01:Unpaused I tried to re-install the client program, and after that the CPU slot picked up where it left off, but the GPU slot seems to have lost whatever it was trying to download before and is now looking for new work.  I guess it's better than sitting there idle 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 I had that happen as well on my windows system, it happens sometime that the preverbial bit bucket happens to appear out of no where like a rouge comet. Sometime all we can do is a fresh install or reload of drivers to get it back on course. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MightyMayfield Mayfield Heights, OH ✭✭✭ May 2020 The battle between Duluth and Secretlab is real. kmiller922 said: @MightyMayfield congratz on making it to 600 there bud. Thanks! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 I'm currently sneaking up on Houston155 slowly but surly. LOL.  I never thought I would ever be up at this level. I'd say rank 6 - 9 is some serious competition atm. 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 Our next teams to over take are: Top 5 Conquests and Threats! Team Name Rank Diff Points Diff Gain Daily Date Overtake ASRockMania 2 -279,814,138 42,520,262 06.01.20, 4am / 6.6 Days Macrumors.com - Team Folding 6 -997,196,125 154,766,822 06.01.20, 1am / 6.4 Days NVIDIA USER 2 USER FORUMS 5 -812,226,069 155,282,516 05.30.20, 8pm / 5.2 Days NCIX.com Forum Folding Team 3 -485,300,235 166,893,302 05.28.20, 12pm / 2.9 Days Google 1 -9,244,560 149,237,716 05.25.20, 4pm / 1.5 Hours 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 edited May 2020 If you're running multiple systems it's useful to get the remote comm working (green box).  Not obvious is the summation window in the lower left (orange box), which makes it easy to see your current total estPPD and spot if something isn't working.  Like, shown below, estPPD had dropped, when I checked, it was a nominal send/download cycle.  It's often a non-loading slot, which a slot right-click, pause/fold cycle will often nudge into loading. 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cine_chris Powder Springs, GA ✭✭✭ May 2020 @Yellowbillycat 100M !!  A 'lone-wolf' shout out. 3 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Yellowbillycat ✭ May 2020 cine_chris said: @Yellowbillycat 100M !!  A 'lone-wolf' shout out. @cine_chris Thanks!  Though I also used that milestone to shutdown my folding machines.  The temperature in the Zwift Cave is now officially (Northeast) unbearable.  First 90 degree day here.  When the first floor AC gets repaired next week I will restart the folding heaters. 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kmiller922 Glenside, Pa ✭✭✭ May 2020 @Yellowbillycat congratz hope your back up soon 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…78910111213…25» Categories 6.6K All Categories 1K The Blog 33 What's Trending 158 How to & Technical Guides 8 Computer Hardware 118 Software 3 Home Office 5 Networking Audio/Visual 2 Home Automation 15 3D Printers 7 Maker 14 PC Build Guides 76 Reviews & Buying Guides 25 Build Showcase 13 Contests 35 Past Contests 744 The Community 1.7K General Discussion 104 New Members 72 Consumer Tech 22 Prebuilt PCs and Laptops 73 Software 2 Audio/Visual 11 Networking & Security 1 Home Automation 2 Digital Photography 3 Content Creators 21 Hobby Boards & Projects 22 3D Printing 46 Retro Arcade/Gaming 78 All Other Tech 1.2K Store Information and Policy 47 Off Topic 4 Community Ideas & Feedback 111 Your Completed Builds 2.6K Build-Your-Own PC 1.6K Help Choosing Parts 219 Graphics Cards 159 CPUs, Memory, and Motherboards 61 Cases and Power Supplies 19 Air and Liquid Cooling 12 Monitors and Displays 28 Peripherals 6 All Other Parts 21 Featured Categories We love seeing what our customers build Submit photos and a description of your PC to our build showcase Submit Now Looking for a little inspiration? 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Is there a way I can fix this or do I have to bring this back to the store for service? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Comments Ian admin January 2 blueblur77 said: I've only had this computer for about 2 weeks and now it is shutting down and rebooting whenever I am streaming Dead by Daylight. I am seeing that this is an with this model in this forum. Is there a way I can fix this or do I have to bring this back to the store for service? Greetings, Are you getting any blue screens or anything? Any error messages?  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook blueblur77 ✭ January 2 No, I haven't gotten any blue screens. The computer just shuts down, I hear buzzing from my headphones, and the computer reboots as if nothing happened. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 4 Hi @blueblur77, could you please check the Event Viewer to see what may be causing these restarts? Right-click on the Start button and select Control Panel > System & Security and double-click Administrative Tools. Then double-click Event Viewer. Are there any Critical or Error logs after your computer restarts on its own? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook georgem3 ✭ January 4 I have the Powerspec g464 and it does the exact same thing. Had about 1-2 weeks. Black screens and instareboots the PC or shuts down entirely when playing any video game. Anything requiring the GPU it seems. The g464 does this for me, and I have already swapped in the Powerspec g358 for the exact same reason. Black screens as soon as any game starts. Look at the reviews for these 2 PCs on the microcenter store. Many people are having this issue with the Powerspec computers but none of the microcenter representatives seem to be aware of it. Not sure if I should return the PC or try and get it "repaired" since the repairs I've seen done by the repair shop has not fixed this issue. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 4 edited January 4 @georgem3 I'd love to know if your computer is showing any Critical errors as well! Since you mentioned that you think yours is specifically to do with the GPU, have you tried reinstalling the GPU drivers? Our service department would be able to take a look at your desktop as well if you would prefer! Would you mind checking to see what your BIOS version is? You can use MSinfo32 to verify this information.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook georgem3 ✭ January 4 @LandShark Thanks for your response. No critical errors (meaning text errors that show up on the crash?). The screen just goes black and the PC reboots. I just tried updating to the latest AMD drivers (dated 11/30/20) and it crashed still. While the random crashes are unpredictable, the PC reliably crashes if I jump into a video game quickly after booting up. The games it has crashed during League of Legends (crashed once), which is not intensive, and Grim Dawn, made in 2016, so intensive-ish but not crazy. The BIOS version is American Megatrends Inc. 2607, 8/14/2020 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 4 Sorry, my request was a bit confusing. Are you seeing any logs in the Event Viewer under the Critical Errors tab? You can open this window by typing "Event Viewer" in the Start menu My system shows 0 below. I'm hoping your system may show some answers. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 4 Are you able to try testing the desktop in a different outlet, power cable, or circuit? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook georgem3 ✭ January 4 Here are the critical errors. Plenty of non-critical ones as well. As for the different outlet and power cable, I can make this happen, though not now. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 4 From that information, it looks like it's an unexpected shutdown. Let's try testing the power and then see if we can find any difference there. Another option would be to boot your PC in safe mode. This would check to see if it's a driver compatibility issue. If the issue doesn't reappear when you start your PC in safe mode, you can eliminate the default settings, basic device drivers, and services as possible causes. Looking forward to your response. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook blueblur77 ✭ January 5 This is a capture of my event viewer.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook blueblur77 ✭ January 5 edited January 5 I've been getting the kernel power critical error after every shut down.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSTDavey admin January 6 @blueblur77 just chiming in. The Critical Kernel power error just means windows unexpectedly shutdown. Have you tried @LandShark suggestions of attempting to go into safe mode and see if windows boots from there and does not reboot like what you've been experiencing? Here is a link of how to get into safe mode from the Windows Login screen using the Shift Key + selecting restart from the power on and off icon with the mouse cursor. Link: https://support.avira.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002870214-How-do-I-start-Windows-10-in-Safe-Mode-  LandShark said: From that information, it looks like it's an unexpected shutdown. Let's try testing the power and then see if we can find any difference there. Another option would be to boot your PC in safe mode. This would check to see if it's a driver compatibility issue. If the issue doesn't reappear when you start your PC in safe mode, you can eliminate the default settings, basic device drivers, and services as possible causes. Looking forward to your response. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook georgem3 ✭ January 6 I had microcenter swap out the graphics card with an ROG amd 5700xt and the crashing issue has not shown up yet. I believe it may have fixed it. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook blueblur77 ✭ January 7 I have booted up the computer in Safe Mode and everything ran as normal. I tried to stream Call of Duty: Cold War and the system crashed almost immediately. It seems to only happen when I attempt to stream a game. Later today, after work I will try I different outlet to see if that will change anything. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSTDavey admin January 7 @blueblur77 it could be an issue with the RX 5700 in the G464. We will be emailing you to get more information from you on your powerspec. We can give you options. Look out for the email. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 28 @TSTDavey I have the same machine and same issue.  What are the other options?  Can we swap out the 5700xt for something else that is more stable?  I am clearly not the only one with this problem.  I just bought the desktop last Sunday. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 28 Hello @mikeil84 I've emailed you about this concern. We'd be happy to work with you on this to figure out what may be causing this issue. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 28 @LandShark the replies you have given me are to reinstall windows and try updating windows and drivers. Neither have/would help this as it is a new desktop within the last week. I already tried updating windows, the bios and the gpu drivers because it was crashing. What can be done to rectify this faulty machine? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 28 mikeil84 said: @LandShark the replies you have given me are to reinstall windows and try updating windows and drivers. Neither have/would help this as it is a new desktop within the last week. I already tried updating windows, the bios and the gpu drivers because it was crashing. What can be done to rectify this faulty machine? I am sorry to hear about your crashing, @mikeil84. I work alongside our PowerSpec engineering team and would love to work with you to get to the bottom of this. I know the original post in this thread specified that the system itself was shutting down/rebooting, is yours doing the same thing exactly? Or do you notice any other symptoms? While they may appear to be similar issues on the surface, it's possible that the underlying issue may differ to some degree and require a different resolution. If you can provide answers to the following questions, it would help me isolate what we may be dealing with in regards to your issue: When the crashing occurs, does anything happen to the screen? Is it a static image? A flat black screen? Green screen? What do you see the moment this happens? When this occurs, do you still get anything coming from your audio? Gameplay, music, buzzing noises, anything that may designate that the system is still powered on during the crash? Does the frequency of the crash change at all, or does it occur at a similar rate each time? IE: Always crashes after 5 minutes, or is it random? We should be able to narrow down the type of crashing you're experiencing when we have those answers. As far as your options go, you do still have quite a few options on the table. While I'd hate to see you inconvenienced by having to make a trip to the store, you are still well within the return period for the unit and I am confident your local Micro Center team would take care of you in terms of getting that unit exchanged. That same option also gives our service department the opportunity to check the unit in and diagnose the cause of the crash. The other options are similar to what I am attempting to accomplish in this thread, which is technical support troubleshooting, which can be viewed as the more convenient option, especially if it is as cold in your area as it is here in Ohio. This can be done here on our community forum, via text, phone, email or chat. The manner you choose depends entirely on your preference. If you do prefer to exchange the unit, please let us know as I'd like to reach out to your local store and prep them for your arrival to make it as convenient as possible.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 28 @TSMichaelB the screen goes black like there is no input for a second or two.  Then the computer reboots. Sound seems to cut out at the same time. It usually crashes when starting a game. I have had success playing for hours, but not consistently. Error codes in the event viewer show "WHEA-LOGGER" as the source and event ID 18.  Fatal hardware error occurred. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 28 mikeil84 said: @TSMichaelB the screen goes black like there is no input for a second or two.  Then the computer reboots. Sound seems to cut out at the same time. It usually crashes when starting a game. I have had success playing for hours, but not consistently. Error codes in the event viewer show "WHEA-LOGGER" as the source and event ID 18.  Fatal hardware error occurred. Thank you for the information, that is certainly interesting. WHEA errors can be difficult to dial in on because they can stem from random driver issues (even ones completely unrelated to the hardware at fault) to legitimate hardware failure. I've personally had message signal interrupts from a network adapter cause WHEA errors that crashed my old 1080 Ti... Definitely one of the more tricky errors. Since this is persisting after you've updated Windows, your BIOS and drivers, it's safe to assume you have no persisting overclocks or tweaks that may be causing any WHEA errors.  I hate to ask this, but do you mind changing a setting and then attempt to see if you can force it to crash again? I would like to disable automatic system restarts on system failure. To do this, press WIN + R to create a Run prompt, and type "SystemPropertiesAdvanced.exe". Click OK. Next, click the "Settings" button under Startup and Recovery. Under the System Failure category, uncheck "Automatically Restart". Click OK. Afterwards, do what you normally do that induces the crash and see if the system attempts to automatically restart itself. I am curious to see if the hard fault is listening to the OS when it automatically restarts, or if something with the hardware itself is locking it up. If it remains locked up when this option is disabled, it points more towards this being driver related as the crash is waiting on the OS to initiate the restart, and it's logging the failure as evidenced by your WHEA-LOGGER error, something a traditional hard-fault typically can't do. This would actually be good news, as it would point towards something we can actually address, though I'll be honest with you, I am currently at a bit of a loss as to what may be triggering this exact crash for you. That said, I am willing to work with you until we both figure it out. You've done a large portion of the ground work already by ruling out the OS version, BIOS and GPU driver, so now we can look elsewhere. I would personally start with background applications that are requesting GPU hardware acceleration (Discord, Chrome/Edge/Firefox, Steam, Epic Games Launcher, Battlenet, etc). If you can disable hardware acceleration in these applications or avoid running them in the background during your tests to see if it has any impact on the frequency of your crashing, it might give us a better idea as to what is triggering it.  From here, the best course of action would be tackling specific input methods and features (HDMI vs DP, FreeSync vs no-VRR, windowed vs borderless vs fullscreen, etc) to see if a specific manner in which your hardware is being used is triggering the crash.  I'll keep an eye on this thread and work with you to help figure this out.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 28 @TSMichaelB It still crashed after changing the settings under system failure. I don't have steam or anything installed. This happens with only modern warfare running. I have the monitor plugged in with display port. The monitor doesn't have an HDMI out. The only app running in the background was battlenet. I closed it this time and it still crashed 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 29 mikeil84 said: @TSMichaelB It still crashed after changing the settings under system failure. I don't have steam or anything installed. This happens with only modern warfare running. I have the monitor plugged in with display port. The monitor doesn't have an HDMI out. The only app running in the background was battlenet. I closed it this time and it still crashed With that setting disabled, does the system continue to restart on its own? Or does it now stay in a crashed state (black screen, frozen image, etc)? If it is continuing to restart itself after changing that setting, we are likely dealing with a hardware failure after all that is forcing the system to reboot. If it is no longer rebooting, it means whatever was causing the crash was waiting for the OS to issue the reboot, which means there is a possibility that it can be addressed via drivers or through various settings tweaks. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 29 @TSMichaelB I read in forums that disabling fast boot has helped others with this gpu. I attempted to disable that without any success. With the automatic restart on system failure disabled, nothing changed. It still restarts at the same point of failure.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 29 mikeil84 said: @TSMichaelB I read in forums that disabling fast boot has helped others with this gpu. I attempted to disable that without any success. With the automatic restart on system failure disabled, nothing changed. It still restarts at the same point of failure.  That is unfortunate news, and may confirm your initial concerns regarding it being hardware. The real question is going to be, which piece of hardware is at fault... You mentioned earlier that event viewer was showing WHEA-LOGGER with ID 18, did it specify which component reported the error? Typically you'd see:  "A fatal hardware error has occurred. Reported by component: Processor Core" In this example, we would know that the CPU is reporting the error, and that it is likely at fault for the crashing. That isn't to say that a different failing component could be at fault and it could mask itself as a different component reporting the error, but it is far more likely to be the component that is originally reporting the error. We could go through various steps to confirm whether the CPU is at fault (underclocking, undervolting, disabling cores/SMT, etc) however I do not want to subject you to the massive time sink required to undertake this, nor should you have to go through this on a brand new computer in the first place. While my curiosity wants to learn exactly why this system is failing, at this point it is likely best that we coordinate with your local store and get you an exchange in as convenient of a manner as we can, and let our service associates determine the root cause of the crashing and address it themselves. That said, if you'd prefer to go this route, I am willing to put in the effort with you. Just understand that it likely won't lead to a solution, just a confirmation of the issue at hand.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mikeil84 ✭ January 29 It said the processor reported it.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 29 mikeil84 said: It said the processor reported it.  This makes sense, and eludes to what I was mentioning earlier. Now, there could be several causes that would result in the processor reporting it. The CPU has an integrated memory controller (IMC) and memory issues can still result in the CPU reporting a failure, so that is one potential avenue. The CPU also provides the PCIe lanes to your graphics card, so while a GPU may crash, the system may interpret it as the processor having a WHEA failure instead. These two scenarios are far less likely though, which brings me to the more likely option. Failing CPU core/cache topology.  The cause behind why this is failing could be a number of things, but in my past experience, these types of failures typically stem from overclocking gone awry. A little too much SOC voltage or a dramatic spike in VCORE with current limitations removed can cause all sorts of adverse side effects, and this type of instability can be one of them. Seeing as your system was sold as an open box unit, it's entirely possible that the previous owner may have dabbled with overclocking or other tinkering and the crashing only manifests under specific loads, which is why it wasn't caught during our return check-in testing. This is especially tedious when it's brought about by the use of specific instruction sets or changes from certain load levels. Regardless, you do have a couple of options on the table. The first option would be to bring it in to your local Micro Center store and have the service department diagnose & repair the unit. While I am fairly confident with our troubleshooting efforts that we are seeing a processor failure, I also do not want to rule out a board failure as well (failure in the socket or VRM power delivery could also manifest in this type of crash), and I'd rather you avoid having to make multiple trips to the store if necessary, especially with the current weather conditions. We offer a 48 hour repair guarantee on PowerSpec systems, but I imagine they'd have it done far quicker than this, that's just the upper max limit on routine repairs. The second option would be an exchange, though this option comes with a bit of bad news. Looking through your local Micro Center's inventory, I do not see any comparable PowerSpec systems around the price you paid for the G464, and our G464 has been phased out due to its age. The PowerSpec G508 would be a downgrade in every capacity, and even the Dell gaming systems we sell at a similar price wouldn't match the performance you were offered at the price point you paid, and it looks like we do not have any G358's in-stock in your area.  If you are looking to exchange, it may result in a compromise in performance or value, and you may find that unacceptable. Given the circumstances, I can reach out to your local Micro Center's management team and explain the situation on your behalf to see what options are available for you, especially considering how helpful you've been in diagnosing this system remotely and potentially helping others that may come across a similar issue. At the end of the day, my job is to make sure that you are taken care of. 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She did it and I built the computer and as I'm putting the glass side panel back on to close it up, the glass completely shatters and puts a few shards of glass in my hands. The best part was when I recoiled from the glass breaking and bumped into my 32" 165hz 1440p monitor and knocked it off my desk and destroyed the panel. Good times. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook EddyTowers ✭ January 12 Wanting to get in to PC gaming, I decided to build a personal rig. Nothing too fancy, just enough to run the TWO games I ever play. After looking around on YouTube, I saw someone that had built a decent machine for about 300USD. I figured i would give it a try. I purchased a refurbished Dell that he recommended with the intent of upgrading the PSU and GPU. I also picked up a GTX 1070. Imagine my surprise when the GPU wouldn't even fit in the case. Ok, so I'll just buy a different case that it can fit in and it would look nicer, right? The new case did fit the GPU, but then I found out the stock Dell mobo wouldn't work with the PSU, so I bought a newer MoBo that would work. This is where I learned about CPU chipsets, and how the mobo i JUST bought wouldn't take the CPU from the Dell. Off to buy a new CPU. I should be good now, right? WRONG! Now the RAM sticks won't work because the Dell had DDR3 and the ASUS mobo has DDR4. Back to MicroCenter, I guess... Picked up a couple of case fans, and oh look! An RGB CPU cooler on sale. Hell yea! Get home to get everything installed, and why the hell does this ASUS mobo not have 5v RGB headers? I guess this 12v will work. It did. For a split second. Then a montage of  trying to figure out why the RGB on the stupid fan isn't lighting up. Ok. I give up. As long as everything works and is functional.  All in all, a $300 build ended up being closer to $700 and I didn't get to use a SINGLE component from the Dell. Not even the HDD. I decided to switch that out for an M.2 SSD.  One good thing from all of this was the experience though. I am now confident enough to build a PC for my girlfriend to start streaming. I also learned that doing ANYTHING with a Dell is a PITA. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Christian_Agama ✭ January 12 Basicly one time when I had all my parts in the box and hadn't start to build my pc my dog must have loved amd so much that he just couldn't wait for me to open the box and decided to chew it up completely with the cpu and destroyed basicly half the pins and the cpu even had a dent on it luck I had warrenty and told them the story the laughed and told me i could get a refund luckily. There was another time that I forgot to peal off the platic on the new motherbaord i had gotten because i planned to upgrade almost very part in my pc. The plastic caught on fire for a quick second while i was playing luckily nothing on the motherbaord got destroyed and the fire touched the graphics card and took it out to see if anything was harmed but luckily nothing was it was an only 1050ti. The Last one would probobly have to be that my glass pannel on my PC Case had shattered on the way to my house thanks to UPS kicking it around luckily someone at nzxt was very nice and helped me get a replacement. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Deaner1121 ✭ January 12 One time I was cleaning my pc and decided to clean my radiator, and the condensation started to drip onto the radiator and I was almost certain it was leaking. Luckily nothing bad happened to it. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Lokithepoodle ✭ January 12 My horror story is not as grand as others, but tragically I almost lost a motherboard. You see, my coolermaster rgb cpu cooler has springs in the screws that screw into the motherboard. You see, I was shaking while pushing down on the springs hoping I would not break my motherboard and squish my CPU. Everything turned up alright though! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zenno ✭ January 12 Imagine ordering all your parts for your first PC build expecting it to come within a few days but the pandemic shipping time became a week. THEN, you realize that the case that you ordered was NOT a glass panel version. Yeah, all that RGB and no glass panel to show it off. Now, you've already dedicated a whole day to build this PC only to find out you didn't have the right case. No biggie, just start with the motherboard and attach everything to it. Wait for new case in the meantime. Oh Wait... RAM is 3600mhz but the motherboard only handles up to 3200mhz?! Well well well... GUESS WHO'S NOT BUILDING A PC TODAY. Yeah, that is the horror story of my first day expecting to build my first PC but it took more like half a month to get all the parts right and installed. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook OJ1010 ✭ January 12 Back around 2018, I visited my cousins house late afternoon. However, this time instead of entering the house and seeing him playing on his PC, I was bestowed the sight of his whole PC disassembled and layed out. This was worrying because 1: I thought something broke, and 2: My cousin wasn't good with computers in the first place, so him having taken the whole thing apart was concerning. After talking with him about it, I realized the issue was clear, when pressing the power button on the PC, the whole system would flash and spin up for a second, and then immediately shut down. With the issue then realized, I took to trying to fix it. I tried everything from reseating the CPU to unplugging the GPU, which of course didn't do anything. Eventually after searching the internet for a while, I found a forum post (ironically on this forum) about someone with the same issue. The person later said that they found the issue to be with their power supply. Once I told my cousin this, he started to deny the claim that I made, saying it was stupid and unreasonable, because if anything his PSU should be the last thing to break. For context, my cousins pc compromised of a i5 6600k and a msi mobo that he got in a combo from ebay, a used 1060, a used case, and a used HDD. The only new thing in the PC was a EVGA 600w B1 psu from amazon. After trying to fix it for another hour, he eventually told me to find out a way to test his psu. This lead to me having to use the dreaded paperclip method (which I found out doesn't actually work all the time, so it was pure luck that it was actually the psu broken), and as a result my cousin was convinced that his psu was actually gone. Warranty was gone of course so he had to get a new one, which is still going to this day. TL:DR: I wasted about 6 hours, and almost risked being electrocuted by a psu just to troubleshoot a pc I already knew the solution of.   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Mikes1479 ✭ January 12 I decided to build my first PC when I started college about 5 years ago in 2017. I spent months researching all the parts, getting the best deals that I could, and overall just taking my time with the process so I could build a $1000 PC for really good value. The build itself went pretty well I guess, it took me roughly 4 hours because it was my first time building a PC and I was really trying to be careful and do everything neatly / correctly. I had an AMD Ryzen Spire Cooler that literally took me about an hour to finally install on my CPU because you had to screw things in a very certain way and I was just getting frustrated. All in all, the build itself went fine and the PC ran well. So fast forward about a month, I am gaming on my new PC having fun when I reach over to grab a sip of water and knock over the cup, the water went ALL into my PC and I had a moment of sheer terror and panic. It took me about 5 seconds to process what had just happened but my first instinct was to power off the PC and unplug it which is luckily what you're supposed to do. I sat there in shame for about an hour pretty certain that I just fried several part of my PC because I heard water hit the fan of my GTX 1070ti and figured that it was all over. I did some research and learned the best thing you can do is wipe the parts with alcohol to avoid mineral buildup from the water, and pretty much just give it plenty of time to dry while no electricity is being supplied. Somehow, 5 days later when I finally had the courage to turn on my PC and see if I fried it or not, everything was working perfectly fine. I was extremely surprised and lucky to learn that this was the case. A big lesson I had that day is no more open cup beverages near my PC, from now on I exclusively drink water from blender bottles. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Pete_T ✭ January 12 About 5 years ago my wife and decided to put all of our pictures that we had scanned along with home movies into a new computer that I was building.  We had decided to use PLEX to be able to watch the movies and view the photos on a computer or TV.  As I finished up building and testing the new PC, I pulled my old mechanical hard drive out of my old PC that had all the scanned pictures and home movies.  The hard drive was one of those old slow ones, 5,400 rpm I think, so we decided to get a new faster and larger hard drive to transfer into the new PC.  I set everything up on the floor and put the old drive on a box as I began the transfer using a USB cable.  My wife walked into the room and was on the phone so she did not see the cord.  She got caught up on the cord and tripped which then whipped the old hard drive off the box it was sitting on and it hit the floor with a screeching sound.  That was the end of that hard drive and about 75% of the information had not transferred to the new drive yet.  Luckily we still had the pictures and home movies so I spent the next 2 months transferring everything directly to the new computer (this time with an extra backup drive).   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BigThickCheese ✭ January 12 Last Wednesday I was built my first PC. After installing everything, it would not power on; no fans spinning, no RGB, no noises. I thought that I had installed my 24pin header incorrectly, but that didn't work. I unplugged and replugged everything at least 5 times, but nothing. However, when I was checking the connections in the back, I hit the psu cable, from the outlet, with my hip. Hitting this, I learned that I simply did not plug the psu in all the way. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Gaild ✭ January 13 This was early 2020 when this happened my mom gave me her old pc it had a amd phenom ii x4 with it and decided to get a xfx rx 570 because i wanted to game or sum shit but i got the card  from wish for only 75 bucks and it took about 7 months . And when it arrived it looked like it got  kicked repeatedly from a football field down and back. When i opened the box the card looked fine but very used and when i installed it and download the drivers the card overheat and catched fire killed the pc got pissed off called the seller got my money back. (btw dont buy shit from wish) 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook matcha ✭ January 13 During the summer I upgraded my Ryzen 5 1600 to a 3600. I planned on using the 1600 on a build that I would give to my girlfriend. I unscrewed the cooler, but the cooler was stuck to the cpu. I ended up ripping out the cpu from the socket and yeeted the cpu+cooler. Pins got bent and I had to get another cpu for my gf's build  🙃🙃🙃 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook RichardFingers ✭ January 13 I think probably about 6-7 years ago when I did my first build. Nothing special, it was a MSI z97 Gaming 5, i5 (forget which version), 32 gb ram and either a 670ti or 780ti. I had just started getting into PCs/components and what not and was all super pumped when the installation went flawless. Booted it up, got the BIOS squared away and got Windows installed. Got some things installed and carried on for a few days. One thing I noticed was the EXTREME amount of lag, rando BSODs, freezing/locking up things just not working. I'm like, uhhh what? I got 32gb ram, I should be fine, plus I'm barely doing anything. Found out that I actually installed a 32 bit version of windows and not 64 bit. Go me. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Bcomputer ✭ January 13 I was building one of my first builds ever and it was a AMD K-5 chip. I got it all together and left it on for the burn-in. Was running smooth. After the burn-in time I shut it down for the first time. I notice a burning plastic smell. The chip had melted the processor socket. Back in the day's when cooling wasn't so good. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook 1TM ✭ January 13 Building a PC with Asus Prime X370-pro board, I didn’t realize the voltage regulation modules’ heat sinks are razor-sharp, so cut my finger pretty deep while connecting the 8-pin CPU power cable.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook PRIVATE_MURRAY ✭ January 13 My Thermal paste was dried out... I tried to substitute with toothpaste .. I made a minty winterfresh smoke screen  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook 4t4k3 ✭ January 13 It took 2 weeks to get all the parts to my pc, then we realized we got the wrong case, then when we plugged everything in the pc wouldn't turn on. Turns out this was because we plugged the psu cables into the graphics card. Then we couldn't find a way to get the bios into the pc. Lastly, while I went to buy the case I saw that there were like 8 3060ti graphics cards in stock, 2 weeks after I had paid for a rog 2060. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DaxterbeerGMS ✭ January 13 My worst accident setting up my monitors was attaching my monitors onto a triple monitor stand.  When I was mounting backplate, I dropped a screw into the vent of my monitor.  I spent an hour trying to use a magnet and shaking the monitor for the screw to come out before carefully disassembling.  When I got the screw out and decided to test out the monitor, I saw a massive black bar across my screen.  I spoke to ASUS about repairs and they were kind enough to send me not a replacement, but an upgraded one since I was in the warranty period but they didn't carry the exact model.  That is how I went 1080p 180hz 24" to 2160p 165hz 27" by accident. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zelda ✭ January 13 After placing the CPU in the socket I pulled the tension lever down and heard the sound of metal screeching 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Fudonim ✭ January 13 Finished building the important bits of the computer and I wanted to install some cheap LED strips for that sweet RGB (This was before everything had RGB on it). We soldered some old phone wires as a power source and hot glued the wires to the edge of the case so it wouldn't snag when I removed the glass panel. Some of the hot glue went into the PSU vent and when I tried to clean it out, I only made it worse. Had to buy a new PSU. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JoPaMi ✭ January 13 I was building my first PC, around 2007, and I ordered all the components, the best I could afford (and some I couldnt really afford) and watched every YouTube video I could find about putting this together. I had the newest bios ready to flash, my static bracelet, nothing was going to go wrong. I literally found every possible video on what NOT to do.  So when I went to put the the CPU in the AM2 slot I was so nervous that I dropped it WAY too early with my shaky hands... You might be able to guess what happened. CPU would not go in because the pins were bent in one of the corners. I spent hours trying to bend them back. I had to wait another couple of weeks (no 2 day shipping then) to get a new CPU.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AdamT ✭ January 13 Young and dumb, I bought a SFF barebones system (case, MB, PS, and fans all integrated essentially) and stuffed it full of a 10k RPM drives running raid 0, couple big storage drives, top of the line GPU, and a screamer CPU with a beefy active cooler.  Everything worked, the noise sounded like a jet engine, and thermals weren't something I knew to care about. The issue was the power supply... I didn't know it was an issue until I heard the pop and smelled the magic smoke escape a few months down the road. Given that it was a special PS, I couldn't just buy a replacement and the OE wouldn't warranty it. So for the next few years I ran a separate external PS chasing all the cables back inside as the system slowly died from poor thermals. Life less, don't buy non-standard equipment, buy a bigger power supply, add more fans, and make your system quiet. Above all else, if you let the magic smoke out, you are boned. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook She_Devil ✭ January 13 I built my first two computers back to back in 2013 for myself and my boyfriend at the time after having saved months and months to afford the build quality I wanted for them. I still use that computer to this day (though, I recently rebuilt it into a new case with some aesthetic additions) and have built about a dozen other computers for friends/family since. Each time it's always been a fun process, fine tuning a build for someone and what they need or intend to use it for is one of my favorite things aside from actually building it. I've always put off upgrading my own PC since I'm cheap and it has always done what I needed it to do. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - that whole thing. And it sure has been a champ all of these years. It's only been recently in the last couple of years that it has struggled at all with games or programs.. Plus it's almost sentimental being my first build ever. Now that my build is definitely what one would call "dated", I finally sucked it up and began my newest build. It was actually really exciting to finally be building a new computer for ME instead of for someone else, and really go all out with it and with the budget. I started this build last November, and it's still unfinished. For the first time ever (or at least that I've ever seen in all of these years building) half of the parts I'm looking for are sold out, the other half are marked up in price, and every worthwhile graphics card is out of stock and being scalped lol. So.. I have patiently waited, and waited.. and waited. Still waiting.. Grabbing every little piece I could until now. There  have been minimal to no restocks on most things and it seems like a lot of things have been going wrong in my build since. Two cases arrived with deep scratches down the face of the tempered glass. The extension cables I purchased had half of the pins hanging out of every cable when I opened the box. My motherboard's RAM slots are slightly too close to the CPU so my AIO pump doesn't fit quite right without pushing on them.  Not quite a horror story, just little things that certainly make this build stand out from the others. I still am excited to finally finish it whenever that time comes. Crossing my fingers for an early restock of the 3080s this year. I am most excited that I will be giving my old PC to my brother so that he can finally start getting into PC games with us. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MarcosV406 ✭ January 13 Last year when I was building my PC, I had plugged in my 24 pin connector the wrong way and I thought it just wouldn't go in. I then proceeded to jam the plug in, so the pcb with the header snapped off and I had to get a new motherboard. (I was inexperienced and the motherboard was an asus z490-e) 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Techdreamer ✭ January 13 edited January 19 I wanted to share a "moment" I had for a build that I sold to a client law firm. Sometimes I will build RAIDED windows file sharing systems for small offices that need data security and redundancy and not necessarily a windows server. I used to use the microcenter branded external enclosures as a 3rd backup for these computers. One Friday afternoon I went to install a new external backup on one of my built systems that was about 3 years old that was located in a small closet that had no light. I was using a small flashlight that was dying (no cell phone with lights at that time had a Palm Treo), and I decided to shutdown their system to clean out all the dust on the inside. When I brought the computer back to the closet and started to plug the power cord, battery ups, key board, mouse, screen and my new external backup drive I turned on the system and "zap", smelled smoke and before I could shutdown the system, it was off. Growing up in a pretty tough neighborhood I had never been frozen with fear, until now.  I was on my hands and knees and I couldn't move. Here is a law firm that could sue me out of existence. I realized that I had plugged the power cord from the external backup into the PS2 port on the file server and fried the board. I mean it was a perfect fit, I thought it was the keyboard, which actually was USB, but the mouse was PS2. After what seemed like an eternity I finally got up and walked over calmly to one of the attorneys and stated that I needed to do some major work on their computer and that they would be down for couple hours or more. The attorney said that he was closing early and that I could stay and lock up. I asked if I could just take their system to my office and do I what I had to, and do a better cleaning and come back the next day. "No problem!" he replied. Thank God the RAID was fine and the backups were intact. I rushed to Microcenter and built them a brand new file sharing server and had it running the next day including the database app and remap all drives. So from that point on I never used those back up drive enclosures and removed them from my other clients, I also learned what "frozen with fear" really meant.   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Anan ✭ January 13 A day of Joy "Shocked." Back from the era of The Sims2 i had a very reliable PC. It was this system i purchased a dedicated graphics card. In time i found myself changing out for more ram and adding hard-drives.  The system was a dual core like many of that time. While many improvements where being made i felt for what i needed it was able to perform. With life i became a father. As grand and unrelated as this sounds highs and lows are very true. For our first Mothers day we felt the integrity of family values to introduce distance relatives to our newborn. While visiting family we receive every alert possible. Someone had broke into our apartment. As most would expect the house was torn to shreds. Jewelry gone, Finances gone, Electronics gone. Well, I would say all electronics were taken however in all the damage was my computer. Kicked over and unresponsive. Based on its beige look the people that acted upon this felt not only was it not worth it to take but not worth it to leave alone. The event is traumatic let alone being our first mothers day, consoling a crying wife and talking with police officers that are suppose to take note to what was taken while calling me a liar in the process. Specifically over owning a Xbox 360 although the Kinect was left along with the original package. At that time computer store have been running commercials of this exact situation. I wouldn't have felt a need to upgrade if This had not happened. However digital copies of family photos and video are forever lost. *** First thought, Best thought. The birth of a child is a great time trial. With this concept i had the time to go back to school and into my career. Success achieved i was able to do what i felt was best to provide for my family and give opportunity for my child. In making sure i was not being financially responsible i felt building a respectful system could be planned. In time The build was complete. This was my first SLI build tucked what i thought was safely behind a living room PC. The weekend of its completion with a now running child a family dinner is in progress. Talking with the mother in law. Her intrigue is upon this bright flashing system. During the conversation i tell her how i had it connected to the TV as it is capable of 4k gaming but may still be sticking out too far as a hazard. While these words are coming out my mouth my daughter runs into the living room knocking the entire desktop off the table to the ground. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook zaidaraid ✭ January 14 Short story, iv'e waited and saved up to get a pc for about half a year and now all the gpu's are at a substantial price. Now I am considering to go with a GT 1030 or a RX 550 until the pc market goes down.😭 But the RTX 3070 would help me build my first pc as a beginner and I have watched every LTT, BITWIT, and nerd a budget's videos on YT.😤 I know this isn't a horror story but i'm really trying my best to get a graphics card in 2021.😓 ✋🏾 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook wra18th ✭ January 14 I bought all of the components to build a Pentium 233Mhz setup with a Tyan motherboard and 8 gigs of RAM. Had everything new. I powered it up and it and it ran for a few minutes and then the motherboard started smoking. Then the CPU stated smoking. Then the PSU stated smoking. I guess there was something wrong with the motherboard. When I called the vendor for a warranty claim they accused me of overclocking. I had never heard of overclocking before. Fortunately, they honored the warranty and replaced everything. But now I wanted to learn about overclocking. And with time I got good at it. But I haven't OC'd anything in 6 or 7 years. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook kparada0421 ✭ January 14 i just put in a new aio and as soon as i turned it on it leaked  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DrShrapnel ✭ January 14   The summer before last I was upgrading my PC to a full AMD build. Got a great deal at Microcenter for a Ryzen 3600 and 5700XT combo. I'd entered all of my info into PC Parts Picker beforehand and it looked like my 550 Watt PSU was enough to handle the job. After completing the build I was running into an issue where I'd be in the middle of playing a game and BOOM! - it would crash to desktop. Sometimes my entire PC would shut down. Looking online revealed that AMD's drivers were causing a lot of issues for new 5700/5700XT owners. The drivers were awful, but when it was all working, it was a tremendous value for the money. So for a short time I was on the AMD forums as well as Subreddit reading about others having issues with these new GPUs. It was frustrating, but man, I was really happy with the performance for the price. Fix this AMD!  Eventually the crashing was just too much.  I'd had enough and was going to go back to Nvidia. Microcenter had a 2070 Super in stock, and even though it was a heck of bit pricier than my 5700XT, I wanted stability. So off to Microcenter I went and picked up the 2070 Super. When I arrived home I put it in my PC and WHAM! Big crash and my motherboard had a red light. What in the WideWide World of Sports is goin' on here??   I didn't know, so I brought my entire PC to Microcenter to get looked at. Turns out I fried my motherboard. *sob*  This dummy didn't stop to think that the 2070 Super required an even larger PSU. So I had to use the savings I had set aside for a future upgrade to buy a new Motherboard and a 750 Watt PSU. Then it hit me...all of that time I thought it was AMD's drivers, and here it was my Motherboard shutting everything down so I didn't damage my system. It just didn't dawn on me because at the time people were having A LOT of issues with AMD's drivers. So lesson learned - don't skimp on the PSU!   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1234567…10» This discussion has been closed. 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Whether we’re hard at work sending an important email or in the middle of an online game with friends, we’ve all fallen victim to the Blue Screen of Death. The Blue Screen of Death, also known as a BSOD or, officially, the Windows Exception Error, occurs when the Windows operating system encounters a critical problem and is unable to recover from it. And, unfortunately, there are many different factors that can trigger a BSOD. So today, we’re going to help you diagnose your BSOD in order to help prevent it from occurring in the future and hopefully improve the health of your PC. What is a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD)? BSOD, or simply blue screen, refers to the generic sets of error messages that Windows computers display whenever the system encounters a critical problem that causes the entire operating system to fail. A blue screen means that the system can no longer continue, and is forced to restart itself completely. In addition to displaying a blue screen, the screens will also give a “stop code,” which describes the type of problem that caused the BSOD to occur.   What are the Biggest Causes of BSOD? While there are many different factors that could potentially cause them, the most common causes of blue screens generally have to do with a computer’s hardware, or with the hardware driver software. Generally, regular applications, such as Microsoft Word or Google Chrome, usually aren’t the cause of BSODs; if an app crashes, it should do so without causing the entire operating system down with it.  BSODs are caused whenever Windows encounters a “Stop Error,” which is a critical failure in the Windows OS that makes it crash and cease to function. Whenever this occurs, Windows has no other option other than simply restarting the entire system. This often can result in data loss, as programs won’t have the chance to save any open data. Fortunately, whenever BSODs occur, Windows automatically creates a “minidump” file that contains any information about the crash and saves it to your hard drive. You can view the minidumps in order to help identify the cause of your BSOD. Common BSOD Errors There are many different BSOD error messages that could appear on your computer, but here are the ten most common ones: ●    DATA_BUS_ERROR - This error message is caused by memory failure. The solution to fixing this message is fixing your RAM memory; that means you’ll need to check your RAM stick function with the application MemTest and replace the hardware if needed. ●    INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE - This error code is caused when the system is missing the necessary drive. In order to fix this error message, you’ll need to update the driver or install it if it isn’t installed on the system. ●    UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP - This error message can either be caused by a hardware error or from the system’s temperatures getting too high. If the problem is the former, you’ll need to uninstall and then reinstall the device driver. If the issue is the former, you should check your system’s fan performance, clean your computer, or see if there are any environmental factors negatively affecting your PC’s cooling efficiency. ●    NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM - This error message is caused by high CPU memory usage. To fix this problem, you should check to see which programs are using the most CPU memory in Task Manager. If necessary, try uninstalling/reinstalling the programs in question and see if it improves CPU usage. Another option is to check your hard drive that Windows is installed on and see if there are any errors in Windows processes. ●    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL - Caused by incompatible or outdated device drivers. To fix this error, deactivate drivers of recently installed devices through the device manager, and then install the newest version of the driver from the device’s manufacturer and install it. ●    BAD_POOL_CALLER - Caused by unwanted memory access. Deactivate drivers for recently installed devices and obtain the newest version of the driver from the device’s manufacturer and install it on your system. ●    FAT_FILE_SYSTEM - This error is caused by a corrupt file system. To fix it, check your hard drive function; from the Start menu, search “chkdsk” and run it. ●    OUT_OF_MEMORY - Caused by memory failure. Check your RAM stick function with MemTest, and replace your RAM if needed. ●    PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA - Like the previous error message, this is caused by memory failure. Likewise, you’ll need to check your RAM with MemTest. If needed, you’ll need to replace your RAM hardware. ●    UNABLE_TO_LOAD_DEVICE_DRIVER - This error is caused by defective software. To fix this problem, you’ll need to uninstall and then reinstall the newest or most compatible version of the software.   Ways to Prevent Future BSODs: There are many different steps that you can take in order to help diagnose and prevent future BSODs. Here are some of the most effective ways for you to help solve system errors, and prevent future ones from occurring.  Uninstall Incompatible Software This is one of the most common causes of BSODs, and also the simplest to solve. While the BSOD doesn’t always explicitly state the cause of its occurrence, be sure to pay attention to see if it happens when using a particular program. If you do get a BSOD whilst using a particular program, then that program could very well be the culprit. If there’s an update available for said program, be sure to upgrade to it. If not, try uninstalling that app and see if the problem stops. Alternatively, take a look at what other programs you were actively using when the BSOD occurred. Try uninstalling any software that was running every time a BSOD occurred, and see if it fixes the problem.   Run a Memory Checker Defective RAM (Random Access Memory) is another somewhat common cause of a BSOD, and it’s also a fairly easy problem to identify with the memory-checking tool built into Windows. To access it, go to the Start search box and type “Memory” and then click “Windows Memory Diagnostic.” Click the option “Check for problems the next time I start my computer” and then restart your PC. Upon booting, your computer will run the test.  After restarting, you’ll need to find the test result. To do so, go to the Start search box again and type “Event Viewer” and click on the application of the same name when it pops up. In the left pane, click “Windows Logs” and then click “System.” In the right pane, click “Find” and search for “Memory Diagnostic.” You should then see the test results -- if there are any sort of problems to report, then your system’s BSOD may have been caused by defective memory. In this case, you should replace your RAM sticks.   Check for Hard Drive Issues Additionally, hard drive-related issues are another common cause of BSODs. To check for errors, go to the Start search box and type “this PC” and click it when it appears in search results. Right-click on your “C” drive and select “Properties.” Next, click on the “Tools” tab in the hard drive’s Properties window. Under the “Error checking” section, you’ll want to click “Check” and then follow the instructions given in order to manually check the hard drive.   Make Sure Your PC Isn’t Overheating It’s also very possible that your computer could be overheating; this problem can occur whenever your PC is working too hard, whilst receiving ineffective cooling from the CPU cooler or fans. Every PC needs to have an effective way of cooling itself, by having enough fans that properly ventilate the unit and should be in an environment that allows it to breathe. More often than many assume, BCODs occur because of overheating. Make sure your PC isn’t overheating by inspecting it.   Perform a Clean Install If none of the prior tips have successfully corrected your BSOD issue, then you are essentially left with two basic possibilities: either you have a software issue that you have yet to properly isolate, or you have a critical hardware problem with your computer that cannot be easily replaced or repaired.  In order to figure out whether your problem is the former, you should try performing a clean install of Windows. You should only attempt this after trying all other aforementioned steps, as performing a clean install will erase all of the content from your hard drive. In addition to losing all of your personal data, you will also lose all of your installed programs on the computer.  To do this, you’ll first want to click the Start search box and type “reset.” Click “Reset this PC” and then follow the directions to reinstall Windows, and keep your files if you so wish. Once completed, you’ll have a fresh version of Windows without any of the software or drivers that may have been causing the BSOD. Moving forward, try to only install and use the most essential software and drivers until you can determine whether your problem has been solved. Bring your PC to Micro Center! The alternative to all this is to simply bring your PC to Micro Center. We’ve got skilled technicians who are happy to take a look at your PC and help diagnose any problems or questions you may have so you can get back to gaming, working, or streaming without breaking a sweat! Find out more here.  We hope that this guide has been of some use to you, and hopefully your BSOD problem is properly solved by following these tips!  More from the Micro Center Community: Looking for more troubleshooting help? We’ve got Community Subsections, as well as articles on Updating your Video Card Drivers, and Blue Screen Frequently Asked Questions. And if you can’t find what you’re looking for, don’t hesitate to post a new discussion and the Community will be happy to help! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Comments MageTank ✭ September 16 Oh boy... I am uncertain if my will is strong enough to tackle the ignorance that is this "crash course", but for the sake of our future tech enthusiasts, I'll endure. We’ve all experienced it before. Whether we’re hard at work sending an important email or in the middle of an online game with friends, we’ve all fallen victim to the Blue Screen of Death. This is a bold way to start this guide, given ALL of the information that proceeds this sentence lacks any experience of any kind. I am aware this is quite the claim to make given the volume of "information" in this guide, but that's what makes it all the more alarming, and my involvement in correcting this misinformation all the more necessary. The Blue Screen of Death, also known as a BSOD or, officially, the Windows Exception Error, occurs when the Windows operating system encounters a critical problem and is unable to recover from it.  This might be nitpicking to start it out, but it's definitely off to a bad start when we begin by confusing titles/general nomenclature. BSOD's were not officially called "Windows Exception Errors", they were known as "Fatal Exception Errors", and even this is considered a dated definition and has since been changed to encompass a larger array of stop codes encountered during crashes. Either way, let's avoid adding "officially" to something if we do not get it right. While there are many different factors that could potentially cause them, the most common causes of blue screens generally have to do with a computer’s hardware, or with the hardware driver software. I am going to need you to cite your sources here as this sounds completely made up by somebody that doesn't understand the concept of stop codes or their origin. A stop code can manifest through software conflicts (stack overflows, buffer underflows/underflows, conflicting memory access within the same address/row/column while another application is attempting to access that area/page, etc) just as commonly as it can via hardware issues. This claim is already dubious at best, and that's before we even begin with this list of "common BSOD's"... Fortunately, whenever BSODs occur, Windows automatically creates a “minidump” file that contains any information about the crash and saves it to your hard drive. Windows will attempt to do this, but it is not always successful in doing so. It is important to make that distinction as this useful troubleshooting tool will not always be readily available and one will have to rely on alternative logs in the event that a minidump fails to be written at the time of a crash. There are many different BSOD error messages that could appear on your computer, but here are the ten most common ones: I honestly do not know where you googled this list, but I am dumbfounded as to how anyone believes these are the 10 most common BSOD's. I've been in this field for over two decades and have not encountered 70% of the BSOD's on this list. I can name 20 off the top of my head that are far more common that I can induce instantly that the average user would encounter before ever seeing the vast majority of these. Now that we have those complaints out of the way, let's dig in to the sheer misinformation. ●    DATA_BUS_ERROR - This error message is caused by memory failure. The solution to fixing this message is fixing your RAM memory; that means you’ll need to check your RAM stick function with the application MemTest and replace the hardware if needed. This error CAN be caused by memory, but memory is not the ONLY cause. Failing L2/L3 cache can cause this error, failing VRAM (video frame buffer) can cause this error, and dying storage could cause this error. Speaking so definitively about this being memory related is simply inaccurate when there are several pieces of hardware that can easily produce this uncommon error. Also, please do not add "RAM Memory" to the list of RAS syndrome phrases we commonly use on a daily basis. Use DIMM, memory, or RAM. People will know what you are talking about. Same with "RAM Stick". If we are going to be writing guides, lets use the industry standard technical terms like "DIMM" or "Memory Module". Anything is better than "RAM stick". Lastly, what MemTest application are you referring to? HCI MemTest? MemTest86? Windows Memory Diagnostic? Each of these do very different things and will have very different results. ●    INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE - This error code is caused when the system is missing the necessary drive. In order to fix this error message, you’ll need to update the driver or install it if it isn’t installed on the system. Okay, this one is rough. First and foremost, INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE is not caused by a "missing drive". If your drive is missing, you can't BSOD in the first place because you have no Windows environment to boot to, and you can't BSOD without a bootable Windows environment. Secondly, installing a driver for a missing drive? What kind of paradox are we trying to create here? Assuming you meant "driver" in the first sentence (in which case, proof reading before submitting guides goes a very long way in preventing posts like these), that's still only applicable if we are talking AHCI vs RAID and someone forgot to install their RAID driver or swap back to AHCI after breaking a RAID array. Either way, there are tons of other culprits that cause this BSOD and solutions to fix them as they arise. It should also be noted that this would not be the BSOD you'd see if you had a missing RAID driver, that would typically be DRIVER_PNP_WATCHDOG. ●    UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP - This error message can either be caused by a hardware error or from the system’s temperatures getting too high. If the problem is the former, you’ll need to uninstall and then reinstall the device driver. If the issue is the former, you should check your system’s fan performance, clean your computer, or see if there are any environmental factors negatively affecting your PC’s cooling efficiency. Again, this is not a common BSOD, it's only ever found on Intel CPU's by design. I am honestly not even sure where you got the information you wrote because the official page that houses this BSOD information doesn't even list CPU temperatures as a culprit and I can't imagine you made this up (given most of your other "error" definitions were found in the first post of Google). https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-0x7f--unexpected-kernel-mode-trap. To clarify that article, this BSOD commonly occurs when you mix incompatible memory on Intel platforms. Why only Intel platforms? Intel deploys a unique memory solution known as "Flex Channel Memory" that allows you to mix different sized DIMM's and run them in a mixed single/dual channel configuration. You can go further than this, mixing different ranks & IC's, which is what leads to instability and this BSOD in question. This happens to be one of the BSOD's you've listed that I've encountered. Those of you mixing memory for performance should instead just OC the memory you already have. There happens to be a guide written by a very handsome memory OCing expert on this very forum and it can be found here (#humblebrag): https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/8683/intel-memory-overclocking-performance-tuning-guide ●    NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM - This error message is caused by high CPU memory usage. To fix this problem, you should check to see which programs are using the most CPU memory in Task Manager. If necessary, try uninstalling/reinstalling the programs in question and see if it improves CPU usage. Another option is to check your hard drive that Windows is installed on and see if there are any errors in Windows processes. Not even close... The hint for this one is in the name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS. Now I am known to have stupidly high memory capacities, but even I wouldn't create a RAM disk and format it to NTFS, given the volatile nature of memory. Once again I am very confused where this misinformation came from because even Googling this error doesn't result in something as spectacularly wrong as what was described here. Those of you encountering this (again, rare) BSOD, it is actually found more commonly on older HDD's with failing drive sectors. You may encounter this on SSD's (especially if you defrag them as you're not supposed to do so, or any SSD with a ton of write wear in general), as well as simple corruption in the NTFS file system (great, another RAS syndrome example). Honestly, go here for more information as it's far more accurate and should have been the source used to answer this question in the first place: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-0x24--ntfs-file-system ●    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL - Caused by incompatible or outdated device drivers. To fix this error, deactivate drivers of recently installed devices through the device manager, and then install the newest version of the driver from the device’s manufacturer and install it. Okay, this happens to be one of my most encountered BSOD's. Anyone that overclocks memory as a hobby is well aware of this BSOD and will encounter it half a dozen times in a single memory OCing session if they are playing on the edge of stability. Now I won't say it can't be caused by incompatible drivers (in theory, drivers accessing incorrect memory addresses could induce this crash), but this is far more commonly associated with memory. Either failing memory modules, or unstable overclocking. To not mention this at all, when it's far more common of an issue, only adds to my concern for this "crash course". Also, for the love of all that is holy, do not "deactivate" your drivers when you install the wrong one. Uninstall it like a normal person and install the correct drivers. ●    BAD_POOL_CALLER - Caused by unwanted memory access. Deactivate drivers for recently installed devices and obtain the newest version of the driver from the device’s manufacturer and install it on your system. Not caused by "unwanted memory access", but rather by incorrectly attempting to free memory that has already been freed, meaning it's trying to give away resources it no longer possesses. What frustrates me the most about this is that you correctly deduce this BSOD is related to memory, but not IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when they are in the same family of stop codes. Again, don't deactivate your drivers, uninstall them responsibly. FAT_FILE_SYSTEM - This error is caused by a corrupt file system. To fix it, check your hard drive function; from the Start menu, search “chkdsk” and run it. Technically correct, however a failing drive in general can also cause this error. You uh... also forgot a very important parameter in order to "fix" the disk with CHKDSK. Definitely worth throwing in a /f or /r for good measure: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/chkdsk ●    OUT_OF_MEMORY - Caused by memory failure. Check your RAM stick function with MemTest, and replace your RAM if needed. First and foremost, wherever you Googled this one from, the source is old. We call this one "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" now. Secondly, it's not caused exclusively by memory failure. In fact, memory failure is probably the rarest cause of this error as you'll likely encounter a CPU memory controller failure or BIOS memory training issue before the DIMM itself is at fault for this specific error. RAM errors are seldom ever consistent, as the name implies, "random" is the name of the game here. ●    PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA - Like the previous error message, this is caused by memory failure. Likewise, you’ll need to check your RAM with MemTest. If needed, you’ll need to replace your RAM hardware. It CAN be a memory failure, but it's not limited entirely to memory as the only culprit. You also have your CPU (cache, memory controller) as well as software (drivers, antivirus conflicts on live software/drivers, etc). Again, we need to be careful about being definitive telling people they have specific hardware failure when we are not even certain that is the case. ●    UNABLE_TO_LOAD_DEVICE_DRIVER - This error is caused by defective software. To fix this problem, you’ll need to uninstall and then reinstall the newest or most compatible version of the software. Now like I said earlier, I've been doing this for a couple of decades now, but I've never encountered this BSOD. Are you sure you don't mean "THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER? That one is actually a bit more common and would make sense. Frankly, I am not even sure if what you are listing here is a real stop code as I can't even find it in Microsoft's database of stop codes. I'd even settle for DRIVER_VIOLATION as I've actually seen that one come up a few times lately, but yeah... No idea what this even is or why it is in this list. I genuinely feel like this list came from some dated source written by someone that may not have known what they were talking about but didn't have anyone around to fact check them. Now we move on to preventative measures!  Uninstall Incompatible Software This is one of the most common causes of BSODs, and also the simplest to solve. Wait a minute... Earlier in the thread, it was said that the most common BSOD's were related to computer hardware and "hardware driver software". Now we are being told that incompatible software is one of the most common causes. At this point, it seems like everything is a common cause for a BSOD... Run a Memory Checker Defective RAM (Random Access Memory) is another somewhat common cause of a BSOD, and it’s also a fairly easy problem to identify with the memory-checking tool built into Windows. To access it, go to the Start search box and type “Memory” and then click “Windows Memory Diagnostic.” Click the option “Check for problems the next time I start my computer” and then restart your PC. Upon booting, your computer will run the test. Fun fact about the Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool: It's quite old and not designed to perform all that well with modern CPU IMC designs and memory capacities. You'll encounter many false positives (or in some instances, failure to catch bad memory) due to the poor design of this "test". I would strongly advise against using this as a test, and would instead recommend alternatives such as HCI Memtest, Memtest86 or TestMem5. These are designed to reach every address/row/column and can also accurately stress your CPU's memory controller simultaneously while providing accurate logs on what failed and where. Check for Hard Drive Issues Additionally, hard drive-related issues are another common cause of BSODs. To check for errors, go to the Start search box and type “this PC” and click it when it appears in search results. Right-click on your “C” drive and select “Properties.” Next, click on the “Tools” tab in the hard drive’s Properties window. Under the “Error checking” section, you’ll want to click “Check” and then follow the instructions given in order to manually check the hard drive. Might be worth adding that modern drives include S.M.A.R.T information that is readily available in many hardware monitoring applications (AIDA64, HWiNFO64, etc) and can provide some forewarning about your drives health without constantly throwing a check disk at it out of the blue. Make Sure Your PC Isn’t Overheating It’s also very possible that your computer could be overheating; this problem can occur whenever your PC is working too hard, whilst receiving ineffective cooling from the CPU cooler or fans. Every PC needs to have an effective way of cooling itself, by having enough fans that properly ventilate the unit and should be in an environment that allows it to breathe. More often than many assume, BCODs occur because of overheating. Make sure your PC isn’t overheating by inspecting it. Fun fact: Overheating computer components (with the exception of RAM) do not cause BSOD's. They lead to thermal throttling and thermal shutdown, but not BSOD's. In the specific case of RAM, overheating memory can cause a BSOD but only in the event that you adjust your TREFI value too high and the DIMM's get too warm. When your DIMM's get too warm, TREFI wants to recharge quicker, and a lackluster motherboard will likely fail to recharge them in time, resulting in corruption and a BSOD. Another fun fact: Overheating can occur even when your PC isn't working hard. Poor cooling is the only requirement for overheating and can occur even when the system is at idle. Do not be fooled by low system load and assume that an idle system cannot overheat. Perform a Clean Install If none of the prior tips have successfully corrected your BSOD issue, then you are essentially left with two basic possibilities: either you have a software issue that you have yet to properly isolate, or you have a critical hardware problem with your computer that cannot be easily replaced or repaired.  In order to figure out whether your problem is the former, you should try performing a clean install of Windows. You should only attempt this after trying all other aforementioned steps, as performing a clean install will erase all of the content from your hard drive. In addition to losing all of your personal data, you will also lose all of your installed programs on the computer.  To do this, you’ll first want to click the Start search box and type “reset.” Click “Reset this PC” and then follow the directions to reinstall Windows, and keep your files if you so wish. Once completed, you’ll have a fresh version of Windows without any of the software or drivers that may have been causing the BSOD. Moving forward, try to only install and use the most essential software and drivers until you can determine whether your problem has been solved. We are going to ignore the first bolded part, because if none of the prior tips successfully corrected the BSOD issue, that means the reader followed the instructions of this "guide" exactly as written and fell victim to misinformation. Luckily I returned in time to save the day, Okay... the second half that is bolded is important to note, because it's more misinformation. This is NOT a clean install. This is a "reset this PC" with "keep my files" selected. This is the exact opposite of a clean install. Here is a third party definition to help clarify: https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/clean-install#:~:text=A%20completely%20new%20installation%20of,is%20formatted%20and%20completely%20erased.&text=Installing%20an%20OS%20on%20a,%22in%2Dplace%20upgrade.%22 The reason we do a "clean install" is to rule out ANY possible corruption from the source of the drive. Resetting the PC from the potentially corrupted OS can potentially reintroduce the very corruption you are trying to remove. The drive needs to be completely formatted and installed from bootable media in order to successfully perform a clean installation. That concludes the misinformation, now on to my final thoughts. In all honestly, I wouldn't be as annoyed had this not been presented as a source material to help others that are less informed on this subject. Writing a guide from a place of ignorance just does more harm than good and further perpetuates ignorance and a general lack of understanding the longer you let something like this go on. There needs to be some accountability here, some form of proof reading to ensure you are not intentionally (or unintentionally) condemning your audience to failure with their troubleshooting simply because you are rushing out articles with zero thought as to what is conveyed within them. At the end of the day, there is just no excuse for how poorly researched this article is given the age we live in and how readily available this information is online. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MageTank ✭ September 16 Okay... So I said the following as a joke: I honestly do not know where you googled this list, but I am dumbfounded as to how anyone believes these are the 10 most common BSOD's. I've been in this field for over two decades and have not encountered 70% of the BSOD's on this list. I can name 20 off the top of my head that are far more common that I can induce instantly that the average user would encounter before ever seeing the vast majority of these. Then I found this: https://tipsmake.com/common-blue-screen-errors-on-windows-10-[compatibility-mode] @SeanM I don't know if I should feel less disappointed now that I know this isn't your words, or more disappointed that you didn't bother creating your own content here, especially seeing that you chose such an inaccurate source to "paraphrase" or "be heavily inspired by". Either way, I am respectfully bowing out of this thread now. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Leave a Comment Rich Text Editor. 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And I'll invest in this, because of my work as mechanical engineer and the aesthetics! I'm currently working with a laptop that doesn't even work properly haha. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook PCB ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=11d72a7c-9819-4974-8a8b-c7efc2aec6e8 Dream PC Build for Gaming and Video Editing! Team Red! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook toadfrog ✭ December 2020 I have a computer that is on its last legs and that needs a huge ungrade for sure.   this is the way. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=c291533f-6dd4-47b0-9321-f908f17d0d33 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ariannas ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-intel.aspx?load=12a74b74-c12a-4edc-a926-f664c67396e0 This is my dream build. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook tarektanas ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=d4620266-6f82-4404-8d7a-66ff9e589c7d While many parts I chose are currently out of stock, it is worth the wait. The 3080 is an excellent GPU and will run any game thrown at it! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BlazerBuddy ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=b0e0b966-256b-4b6a-8bf3-29f3ed79a588 Since this is a dream pc contest, I decided to go all out with a Amd/Nvidia combo. With the most powerful gaming cpu and gpu, I will be able to play games with my friends at smoother frame rates as well as enjoy the nice rgb😀. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=0ec632ec-e6b1-40af-a649-e6a1457a8917 I also made a more subtle pc with a lower cost but still beast at gaming. Same Amd/Nvidia combo😃. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook tbkizzle ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=27806cd5-07cc-4aa5-8497-c8d75f5350d6 This Computer is going to be a modern monster. I am decently young and I have to save my money for a few months for just one of these parts. I entered this contest to expedite the process of obtaining these parts. I want a very good gaming pc for when I'm not working or doing schoolwork. I haven't used microcenter much, but it seems much easier to use than Best Buy or even Newegg.(I'm not trying to suck up to them I am just stating what I feel.) I enjoy participating in these contests, even though I don't win, it is fun seeing others pc builds and enjoying the competition with others.  Good Luck Friends! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zero3ffect Conowingo, MD ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=0a2add93-190d-4ca5-922e-77becf522be8 As someone still rocking an i5-2500k from 2011, I have been trying to put together a new system for a few months.  While some peoples dream PC's include every top-of-the-line component possible, my build is more about what components I would upgrade to a higher tier if I had the extra money.  My main use for my PC is gaming. CPU: In my original build I intended to use a Ryzen 5 5600x but with extra money I would upgrade to a Ryzen 7 5800x to future proof for when games inevitably start to require more cores. CPU Cooler: I'm a bit disappointed in Micro Center's selection of air coolers.  Maybe I'm just too old school but I still prefer air coolers to AIO's.  In my original build I intended to use a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B but with extra money I would upgrade to a Noctua NH-D15 even though it is not offered by Micro Center. Motherboard: The MSI B550 Gaming Edge is the only component I have already purchased because the deal was too good to pass up.  I decided against an x570 board because I felt full PCIe Gen 4 support was not worth it.  Also, by the time PCIe Gen 4 NVMe's come down to acceptable prices we will have moved to Gen 5. RAM: In my original build I intended to only have 16 GB of RAM but with extra money I would upgrade to 32 GB.  Overkill?  Probably but you never know when it may start to become the new norm plus apparently AMD 5000-series CPUs run better with full RAM slots. Case: I prefer a case with great airflow and this is one of the best.  I could go with the RGB version, which is apparently the same price now, but I'm not really into that. GPU & PSU: In my original build I really hadn't settled on a GPU yet, mainly because the prices of the new GPUs are a bit ridiculous.  I mean, what happened to mid-range GPUs?  I probably would have ended up with a 3060 Ti but with extra money I'd upgrade to a 3080.  I had also intended to keep my current PSU, a Corsair HX650, but with the GPU upgrade I felt an 850-watt Corsair RM850 would be a worthwhile upgrade. SSD: In my original build I intended to upgrade my 250 GB SATA SSD to a 500 GB NVMe but with extra money I would upgrade to a 1 TB instead. Monitor: I'm currently still in the 60 Hz gang (well actually 75 Hz) when it comes to monitors.  In my original build I intended to upgrade to a 1080P 144 Hz monitor but with extra money I'd move to 1440P with an LG-27GL850.  I chose this monitor because it is an IPS display, has a borderless bezel much like my current monitors, and it is not curved because I'm just not a fan of curved monitors. Thank you all for reading my blog .  Hope everyone has a happy holidays! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook bbnaz ✭ December 2020 Here's my build but I can't afford it!    https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=4dca850c-28bb-4254-809c-3512fdd8dbfa 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Only_Matt76 ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=1a938568-c52d-4668-99f7-8b966ee9fc02 This will be my first PC build, given a few slight changes here or there. I am a college freshman majoring in Computer Science and minoring in Graphic Design, so I want my PC to handle coding and adobe applications well. I am also into gaming. In fact, I want to become a game developer someday. Anyways, the PC should be able to handle AAA games with a high refresh rate at 1440p. I plan to build it at the end of my spring semester. I can't wait! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook salj3 ✭ December 2020 This system costs as much as my first car!   https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=f26faf79-51d1-4ab0-ba29-9b24104261e3 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Mike2Hodge ✭ December 2020 Here's my idea of a decent ITX rig for some living room couch-gaming. I hadn't made my mind up to go this route, or Series X... until the Xbox sold out seconds after they went on sale. PCMR it is! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=e0a81533-cc0e-413d-8ff5-8974d0e20426 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Jeff_L_96 ✭ December 2020 edited December 2020 Data Scientist's Dream PC https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=8d738811-c3ba-4b37-9892-a548d75885cc Despite popular belief, you can train accurate deep learning models on very inexpensive hardware. It's just going to take you a very long time (pic related). However, since time = money, if you want to make data science your career, a capable PC is a wise investment. For this build, I tried to bring a bit of price:performance sanity to a use case that often completely ignores price. Unfortunately for my wallet, both CPU and GPU improvements greatly reduce the time required to train machine learning algorithms. Simply put, this is because models are trained both forwards and backwards. The forward pass takes a set of variables (inputs) and spits out a single predicted value (output). The backward pass updates the weights that different output nodes receive in order to increase the overall predictive ability of the model. Think of it as a very complicated sequence of trial-and-error that eventually teaches the model to be a really good guesser. To bring it back to why you need GPU and CPU power: cards like the 3090 have tons of cores (3090 has 10,496 CUDA cores!), and as such are really good at performing the simple calculations required by the forward pass, where as processors like the 3960x have fewer cores (only 24... lol) but much higher clock speeds, which makes them better suited to performing the multi-layered calculations of the backwards pass. Anyways - here's the build. I went for a no-nonsense blacked out aesthetic that brought the total price to just under $5,000. The highlights of the system are the 24-core 3960x, the RTX 3090, and the 128GB of RAM running in a quad-channel configuration. Ryzen Threadripper 3960x Enermax Liqtech TR4 360 AIO TRX40 Aorus Master 128GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3600 CL16 GeForce 3090 XC3 Ultra Seasonic Prime Ultra 1000 80+ Titanium (MC tool only had 850) 500GB Samsung 980 Pro Gen 4.0 NVMe SSD 2x2TB Inland Platinum Gen 3.0 NVMe SSD Corsair 400D Mid-Tower 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook D1ZZY ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx#selector_92 I chose this build because it would look good-ish, i would be really happy with this! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Blue323 ✭ December 2020 Dreaming of a itx build for Christmas and could use a gaming system for living room for the family, good luck to everyone that enter. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=dfb56e22-3ea2-4cbd-8203-423c79269cd8 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Johnnybeegood1234 ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=6e10bdf9-24d9-4432-9bd3-507795ee79da My gift for my Dad, He's never had a gaming PC in his life 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AllenMP ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=ea41793c-5815-4707-a7fc-0a46824176a2 This would be my dream build for this holiday. I just recently graduated from university and thought it would a great way to treat myself by buying a completely new setup. This setup revolves around the combination of Ryzen 3600 for great processing speeds along with the RTX 3080 to handle any AAA title for my ultrawide monitor. This would be my most expensive set up but it's a great way to reward myself for staying strong the past 4 years. I would then take apart my old build to help finance some parts for my GF so I can teach her how to build her own personal computer.  1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook KungFutse81 Dallas, TX ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=8041dcaa-4729-4457-a47f-126922d1ba2a Zen 3 just came out and I finally decided to make the switch to Team Red after sticking with team Blue/Green (Intel/Nvidia) for ten years. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Bluenotebacker ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=79345f6d-d08b-4d49-82a4-4e9369e9128e I picked my parts to build the kind of rig I won't have to change much any time soon. I've always had to build 3-4 generations behind due to prohibitive (for me) costs, and so I've managed to tweak and slightly upgrade my homemade boxes in the past, I'm running on one that's elderly and dragging down my gaming and work performance. This Custom Build would pretty much make me set for life, allow me to hand down my current rig to my 12yo AND have something to give the (now) 5yo in the future 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook boothman ✭ December 2020 Looking to get some upgrades for my aging (and underpowered) Ryzen 1200 build.  https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=26a88f3a-d0ba-4735-9afd-3e35be9fb771 Thanks for the opportunity MC!!! Good luck to all. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Jordan_X04 ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=c9e8cbb3-e5ac-4cd2-ad97-5d6482b5dd86 i chose this build because it is the best for the money and the performance is good and it can stream and play games really good 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook dannsterr ✭ December 2020 I chose this build because it is very powerful and a significant improvement to my current system. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=f99b4566-60b5-4c93-b0b7-a7a30ae9ae37 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Lauretta ✭ December 2020 Hey, here's my dream build Styx (Goddess of the River Styx) . I chose the 5950x for my CPU because of all its cores and threads. It will make my life when video editing and rendering so much easier. Also, the 5950x is fully capable of feeding the RTX 3080 plenty of frames while gaming! I'm looking to target 1440p, so I know I'll be getting at the very least 144fps in all my games to match monitors refresh rate. I chose Razer peripherals because its what I've always used and I love them. Also, since I do a lot of video editing, I decided to put in a ton of mass storage, as well as a very beefy main/scratch drive for high speed read/writes while editing! Let me know what you guys think! https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=056596ea-a18a-41f4-a2ce-c9d5c36621c5 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Jesse_Viramontes ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=a88babc0-3f50-42ad-9869-ba254381be80 My Dream Build  Cpu: I chose the Ryzen 9 5900x because  It has 12 cores and 24 threads which will be great for streaming and content creation  It is a very fast gaming cpu  It will allow me to play at 1440p 144hz more easily while streaming  Motherboard: I chose the ASUS B550 Rog Strix F Gaming for a few reasons  It has flash bios which means I can safely update its bios so its ready for Vermeer cpus It has PCIE gen 4 support which will allow support for the 3000 series gpus and pcie gen 4 ssds Its heat sinks are high quality and look good and they will help keep components on the motherboard cooled It is overall a great looking board and is one I would recommend to anyone going team AMD. Ram: For Ram I am going with the G.SKill Trident Z neo 16gb 3600mhz cl 16 ram  It is very fast for the price  It looks great especially with its white/ silver accent that will match the case It will be great for AMD Cpus Case: I decided to go with the Corsair ICUE 465x Rgb White Mid Tower case  I love the over all look of the case it is white with black accents which will allow for black components to still go with the build  It comes with three LL120 fans which look great and have great airflow  It has quite a bit of room for cable management  Power Supply: I chose the Asus Rog Strix 850w 80 Plus Gold White PSU for a couple of reasons   The power supply will be sufficient enough to power every component and future upgrades   The power supply comes with white braided cables which would match the build completely  Also since all the cable are white it would blend in with the case more where I can't hide them  Also It is 80 plus Gold so it won't blow up  Graphics Card: I chose the Asus Tuf Gaming Rtx 3080   It is a great bang for the buck for 1440p 144hz gaming and even 4k gaming if I wanted to  It is a great looking card and will match the cases black accents  It has some rgb which we all know increases frames M.2 SSD: for this I went with the Samsung 980 pro 1 TB ssd   It is PCIE 4.0 which means it is super fast It is 1tb which would be plenty of storage for games  Cooling: I went with the Corsair Hydro Series H100i Platinum 240 Rgb Aio along with a three pack of LL120s The aio has great performance and is white so it will mach the build perfectly   The LL120s have great airflow performance and look great also the three pack comes with the commander pro which will allow me to control fan speed and rgb all in one place. Operating system: Windows  Reasoning Its Windows  Peripherals: I went with a Asus 1440p 165hz monitor along with 4 other corsair peripherals  The monitor I went with is the ASUS VG27wq1b TUF Gaming 27 inch Wqhd 165hz mointor  The keyboard I went with is the Corsair K70 RGB  The mouse I chose is the Corsair IronClaw wireless RGB  The headset I decided to go with is the Corsair Void Rgb Elite Wireless headset  I also went with a Corsair Extended mouse pad   Overall I am a big fan of Corsair products which is why the majority on this list is corsair parts and peripherals  Things I would have changed: If these two were available at microcenter I would have chosen to change the case and ram. For the case I would have chosen the Phanteks P500a white which looks really nice and its airflow performance is great. I would have changed the g.skill ram to some Corsair vengeance 3600mhz white ram if it was available at microcenter.  Now I would like to take a moment to Thank Microcenter for hosting this contest and hope that you guys consider me to win. Also I did post an entry earlier but it got deleted for some odd reason so I remade it again so if there is a chance there are two of mine it's because of that.   1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook C00kieduster ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=0e5df9c0-abe3-4d5a-868e-4f09ef7f4824 I just recently stated streaming. I’m on a single pc setup right now. It does okay but my dream is to create a dual PC set up so I can really create something awesome. This PC build will function as my gaming pc with my current pc filling the role of the streaming rig. The build isn’t the most high end build humanly possible but it’s a pretty incredible build I could only hope to build!  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook chocobocardist ✭ December 2020 I chose these parts for its affordability without sacrificing performance. I'm also a fan of dragons, as you can see from the parts chosen.  https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=5a504ae3-5a20-4a25-ba2c-549d18dcf16f 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook EpicLord ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=b0237d3a-7931-4fb7-99c1-42f3fa8123fa Somewhere, over the rainbow, way up high, there's a land that I heard of, with a 3080 to buy. PC build that I can almost build, aside from the GPU. I'm running a 2700K and 1060 3GB, so literally almost anything would be a huge upgrade. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Daniel_Todd Phoenix AZ ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=61d6834f-7d01-4d56-b9db-a8183341ec6d This would be my first build. Pretty much everything in there is exactly what I want, with small exception is having either a rtx 3080 card or RX 6800xt video card from one of the third party manufacturers. I really look forward to building my first unit. Fingers crossed! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JMcCaskill ✭ December 2020 https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=d4da2cfe-5a91-4ded-9c2d-347874de9c14 Some friends who play on PC recently enlightened me on what I have been missing out on (I've been on console my whole life) and I am extremely excited to get my first ever build underway!  Hoping to build something that is capable but not absolute overkill for what I hope to be doing (playing Call of Duty, Cyberpunk, GTA, Farming simulator, as well as some potential rendering for my engineering Master's degree). I'm still new to the PC community so please don't judge my PC parts   0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Yuppee ✭ December 2020 Affordable PC for gaming and daily use why not? Lets get real you are not a PRO gamer (E-sport gamer) why would you drop 4-5k grands on a PC then 2-3 years later you move on to another?.  https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=e34112a6-2740-4ef8-a939-44fd4d99ee43 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…45678910…16» This discussion has been closed. 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That motherboard isn't listed on the English language MSI websites. I see it on some Chinese language websites and downloaded the latest. When I go into the M-Flash utility and select that file is says this at the bottom: Current BIOS   - Model Name: E7C98IZ1 Version: V1.M1 Build Date: 07/02/2020 Selected BIOS - Model Name: E7C98IMS Version V1.40 Build Date: 10/23/2020 Is that safe to use?  The reason I want to update the bios is that my mouse needs to be unplugged and plugged back in every time I boot. I tried some different USB option to no avail and have reset everything back to the defaults. Thanks! 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «12» Comments DigitalTim ✭ January 2 Hi.  I purchased the PowerSpec G436 this afternoon and could not find any information on the MS-7C98.   Where would I download the BIOS updates and find more information on this board? I'm not comfortable going to a Chinese website for updates. Thank you. Tim 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMikeW admin January 3 Greetings @DigitalTim We do not currently have a BIOS update available through this board, but we can look into it. Is there a specific issue or compatibility concern you're trying to address with a BIOS update? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook fracture96 ✭ January 8 well my problem with the board is that it wont install its own rgb software, probably because the bios is out of date or this board does not exist. Their is no ms-7c98 motherboard on their website and the the link @TSTDavey posted above, for me at least none of the downloadable software(i.e. updates/utilities) work at all.  it seems microcenter is trying to get rid of old obsolete parts but still charge a premium.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook stm ✭ January 8 I too need to update the BIOS as I get a Graphical Output Protocol error whenever I boot the PC. Has something to do with UEFI mode. PC will still boot after the error. As otheres have mentioned, the z490 board we have is different than the ones on the MSI USA website, but can we use that BIOS update? I am sure our rtx3070 will perform better with the newest BIOS update. Anyone that has updated the BIOS on this chinese version of the board please let us know which update you used. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 8 edited January 8 Hello @stm there is no newer BIOS update for this board at this time. I'll reach out to our team at our corporate office to see if they are able to offer any other options but to my understanding, the build as it ships is stable and offers top performance. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 8 stm said: I too need to update the BIOS as I get a Graphical Output Protocol error whenever I boot the PC. Has something to do with UEFI mode. PC will still boot after the error. As otheres have mentioned, the z490 board we have is different than the ones on the MSI USA website, but can we use that BIOS update? I am sure our rtx3070 will perform better with the newest BIOS update. Anyone that has updated the BIOS on this chinese version of the board please let us know which update you used. Welcome to the community forum. I know a few of you in this thread have inquired about BIOS updates for the MSI Z490 Plus motherboard used in our PowerSpec G436 and have been unable to find the board on MSI's website. This is due to the fact that the board itself is not a  "retail" motherboard. This board is sold exclusively to system integrators for mass production and doesn't have end-user support from MSI on their official support pages. With that said, your specific error is definitely a concern I would like to address as it should not be present with how the hardware is configured on this system. Typically you would only see this error if you are attempting to use a graphics card that lacked UEFI support on a BIOS with CSM Legacy OP ROM options disabled. Our BIOS has CSM disabled by default, meaning only UEFI devices are supported, however the RTX 3070 graphics card that ships within your system should function perfectly fine with this configuration. If you can provide any details as to when this error started occurring and any changes that may have taken place around the time the error started to appear, we can work together to get to the bottom of it. As for those of you looking for BIOS updates, I do not anticipate that a BIOS update will be available for this board unless one is required to address a specific security or compatibility issue with the board. For boards like these, we go through a very strict qualification process to make sure everything is working perfectly (USB ports are mapped correctly, secure boot functions properly with/without keys loaded, TPM functions, board/chipset features perform as advertised, etc) and BIOS updates can often break these functions inadvertently. With that said, I am happy to work with any of you to address any concerns you may have. Should a BIOS update be required to address any concerns, we will explore those options as they come about. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ January 10 I just bought this same system and I too am having trouble with the RGB software. It was deleted while trying to install the Dragon Center package and I've tried several times to re-install and I get the same message as fracture 96. Please help as my RGB is stuck on a very fast oscillating pattern and it's painful, seriously I need to cover the glass as it's giving me a headache. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMikeW admin January 10 @fracture96 @DMA Please download the motherboard driver package here: http://powerspec.com/support/files/psdriver_19s.zip  There will be a mystic light folder in the package with an installer for the RGB software. That should work just fine for you. If you're having issues installing it, let us know and we can work through them with you. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ January 10 Thanks TSMikeW. Will give it a try and report back. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ January 10 TSMikeW said: @fracture96 @DMA Please download the motherboard driver package here: http://powerspec.com/support/files/psdriver_19s.zip  There will be a mystic light folder in the package with an installer for the RGB software. That should work just fine for you. If you're having issues installing it, let us know and we can work through them with you. Great and thanks again! Now, is there an installation file for Dragon Center that will work with this version MB? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMikeW admin January 10 @DMA That's not something I've tested and it's fairly likely installing a version of Dragon Center will uninstall the Mystic Light standalone RGB software. What features are you looking for that Dragon Center provides? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ January 11 Yeah, attempting to install it is in fact what blew my Mystic Light app. As far as what features Dragon Center provides, I don't even know. I was actually simply trying to get some documentation on the Mystic Light app and when searching I found the Dragon Center so I tried to install it and of course ran into the problem.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook fracture96 ✭ January 11 downloading the motherboard driver package does not work for me it says dragon center not installed 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook fracture96 ✭ January 11 I am almost at the point of just buy a new mother board to fix the issue. I have other problems with this computer and am starting to feel like I got ripped off. I spent a lot of money on the G436, you would think they would put real parts in it. for example the motherboard, ram and the AIO do not exist when you search for them. I probably will have to spend 500 dollars+ just to fix microcenters mistake(or scam). 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ January 11 Sorry to hear this did not work for you. My problem was resolved immediately upon downloading the above package. However I do feel your pain and I'm somewhat of the same thought. The ONLY reason I bought this unit was because of the 3070. I've been searching for the past three months for a decent GPU and they are simply not to be found unless you get really lucky. This system is pretty much like a Frankenstein but it's still better than the Asus computer it's replacing. I couldn't even find a motherboard for that one that would fit in the case. Kinda like a Dell I had years ago. Came time to replace the PSU and the absolute only thing that would fit in that case was, you guessed it, another Dell PSU.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 11 fracture96 said: I am almost at the point of just buy a new mother board to fix the issue. I have other problems with this computer and am starting to feel like I got ripped off. I spent a lot of money on the G436, you would think they would put real parts in it. for example the motherboard, ram and the AIO do not exist when you search for them. I probably will have to spend 500 dollars+ just to fix microcenters mistake(or scam). I can certainly understand the frustrations, hopefully I can address some of these concerns for you.  The motherboard is a custom board that is sold exclusively to system integrators. It is not sold in retail stores, nor is it listed on MSI's website as they do not provide end-user support for system integration boards. That role would fall to us (Micro Center/PowerSpec), and we would be more than happy to take care of you and address issues as they arise with your system.  As for the AIO, these are actually designed by Cooler Master and their specifications should be available online for you to view. Depending on when your G436 was manufactured, you may have the original Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB, or the newer MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2. You can discern between the two based on the aesthetics of the pump/block assembly. In terms of performance, both coolers are rated around the same 200W TDP cooling capacity and should perform nearly identically. https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml240l-rgb/#specifications https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml240l-v2-rgb/#specifications As for the memory, I can definitely understand the area of concern here. If we are strictly talking brand awareness, I do not expect many people to have heard of GoldKey here in the United States as their presence here isn't as strong as it is overseas, at least not under the "GoldKey" branding. Their Neo Forza sub-brand however, has been around for quite some time and some of you may be more familiar with that name. That said, when it comes to RAM, brand names are not as important as what is actually on the DIMM's themselves. Most memory manufacturers get their IC's from 3 big manufacturers; Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron. The GoldKey DIMM's in your system use SK Hynix IC's and are the same speed grade that you'd find in memory from other brands around the same performance bracket. While I understand the hesitation to put your faith in a system that has components you may not be familiar with, know that we will always stand by our products and will do our best to provide whatever support is necessary to help you enjoy them to their fullest. fracture96 said: downloading the motherboard driver package does not work for me it says dragon center not installed Can you send a screenshot of this error and describe what you are attempting to launch when you receive it? The Mystic Light package we use is a much lighter version of MSI's original RGB control software, without Dragon Center's overall application package. We chose this option based on some of the customer feedback we found online. The application itself shouldn't have any dependency on Dragon Center, so if you are receiving that error when launching the application, I'd like to help troubleshoot this with you and resolve it to your satisfaction. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kenjori ✭ January 11 I thought I'd report how things are going. I got the motherboard drivers and installed those and after that the mouse has been found on boot. Before I got things settled I did try the Dragon Center stuff. It was doing this odd thing where it would set some graphic preferences so everything was really dark. You could see it come up normal and then get darker as it started. I read around and that software doesn't seem to be perfect. I uninstalled that and just ran just the light program to control that. Since then, things have been great. I am just a customer, but I understand the frustration of having things not work. Do know that it can work just fine and the machine is really fast. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook stm ✭ January 11 TSMichaelB said: stm said: I too need to update the BIOS as I get a Graphical Output Protocol error whenever I boot the PC. Has something to do with UEFI mode. PC will still boot after the error. As otheres have mentioned, the z490 board we have is different than the ones on the MSI USA website, but can we use that BIOS update? I am sure our rtx3070 will perform better with the newest BIOS update. Anyone that has updated the BIOS on this chinese version of the board please let us know which update you used. Welcome to the community forum. I know a few of you in this thread have inquired about BIOS updates for the MSI Z490 Plus motherboard used in our PowerSpec G436 and have been unable to find the board on MSI's website. This is due to the fact that the board itself is not a  "retail" motherboard. This board is sold exclusively to system integrators for mass production and doesn't have end-user support from MSI on their official support pages. With that said, your specific error is definitely a concern I would like to address as it should not be present with how the hardware is configured on this system. Typically you would only see this error if you are attempting to use a graphics card that lacked UEFI support on a BIOS with CSM Legacy OP ROM options disabled. Our BIOS has CSM disabled by default, meaning only UEFI devices are supported, however the RTX 3070 graphics card that ships within your system should function perfectly fine with this configuration. If you can provide any details as to when this error started occurring and any changes that may have taken place around the time the error started to appear, we can work together to get to the bottom of it. As for those of you looking for BIOS updates, I do not anticipate that a BIOS update will be available for this board unless one is required to address a specific security or compatibility issue with the board. For boards like these, we go through a very strict qualification process to make sure everything is working perfectly (USB ports are mapped correctly, secure boot functions properly with/without keys loaded, TPM functions, board/chipset features perform as advertised, etc) and BIOS updates can often break these functions inadvertently. With that said, I am happy to work with any of you to address any concerns you may have. Should a BIOS update be required to address any concerns, we will explore those options as they come about. Thank you for the response. I first encountered the Graphical error when I rebooted my PC after owning it for a week. I did not experience it on the initial boot when I first purchased the system. I usually put the PC to sleep and then press the power button to wake. The very first time I rebooted I encountered the issue and have not been able to replicate it again. When it happened my monitor lost connection when the PC power came back on. I had to press and hold the power button multiple times to shut it down, turn it back on, and repeat. After doing this several times I was presented with the Graphical Error. If I encounter the issue again I will report back. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 11 stm said: TSMichaelB said: stm said: I too need to update the BIOS as I get a Graphical Output Protocol error whenever I boot the PC. Has something to do with UEFI mode. PC will still boot after the error. As otheres have mentioned, the z490 board we have is different than the ones on the MSI USA website, but can we use that BIOS update? I am sure our rtx3070 will perform better with the newest BIOS update. Anyone that has updated the BIOS on this chinese version of the board please let us know which update you used. Welcome to the community forum. I know a few of you in this thread have inquired about BIOS updates for the MSI Z490 Plus motherboard used in our PowerSpec G436 and have been unable to find the board on MSI's website. This is due to the fact that the board itself is not a  "retail" motherboard. This board is sold exclusively to system integrators for mass production and doesn't have end-user support from MSI on their official support pages. With that said, your specific error is definitely a concern I would like to address as it should not be present with how the hardware is configured on this system. Typically you would only see this error if you are attempting to use a graphics card that lacked UEFI support on a BIOS with CSM Legacy OP ROM options disabled. Our BIOS has CSM disabled by default, meaning only UEFI devices are supported, however the RTX 3070 graphics card that ships within your system should function perfectly fine with this configuration. If you can provide any details as to when this error started occurring and any changes that may have taken place around the time the error started to appear, we can work together to get to the bottom of it. As for those of you looking for BIOS updates, I do not anticipate that a BIOS update will be available for this board unless one is required to address a specific security or compatibility issue with the board. For boards like these, we go through a very strict qualification process to make sure everything is working perfectly (USB ports are mapped correctly, secure boot functions properly with/without keys loaded, TPM functions, board/chipset features perform as advertised, etc) and BIOS updates can often break these functions inadvertently. With that said, I am happy to work with any of you to address any concerns you may have. Should a BIOS update be required to address any concerns, we will explore those options as they come about. Thank you for the response. I first encountered the Graphical error when I rebooted my PC after owning it for a week. I did not experience it on the initial boot when I first purchased the system. I usually put the PC to sleep and then press the power button to wake. The very first time I rebooted I encountered the issue and have not been able to replicate it again. When it happened my monitor lost connection when the PC power came back on. I had to press and hold the power button multiple times to shut it down, turn it back on, and repeat. After doing this several times I was presented with the Graphical Error. If I encounter the issue again I will report back. That is quite odd, but thank you for bringing it to my attention. I'll keep my eyes out for more reports on this, though so far this appears to be the first of its kind. If you do see it again, we can go over your BIOS settings and make sure everything was configured correctly and that none of the settings have changed inadvertently. Kenjori said: I thought I'd report how things are going. I got the motherboard drivers and installed those and after that the mouse has been found on boot. Before I got things settled I did try the Dragon Center stuff. It was doing this odd thing where it would set some graphic preferences so everything was really dark. You could see it come up normal and then get darker as it started. I read around and that software doesn't seem to be perfect. I uninstalled that and just ran just the light program to control that. Since then, things have been great. I am just a customer, but I understand the frustration of having things not work. Do know that it can work just fine and the machine is really fast. Thank you for the feedback. Part of our decision making process behind going with the lighter, cut-down version of the Mystic Light software was that it was easier to use and didn't exhibit any of the issues we saw others experiencing online. Most of the feedback we saw online showed that customers wanted an application that simply controlled lights without additional features added in, so we requested custom software for this particular board to accommodate that request. Speaking of feedback, I wanted to touch upon this subject a little more with everyone. I want everyone to know that we do read the feedback we get on our systems and we do take everything into consideration. While we feel great when we get a positive response with our systems and it bolsters our pride when customers share their great experiences, we also want to hear the critical feedback that may hold our products back. I encourage everyone that has experienced our work first hand to share their experience and let your voice be heard on the subject. Not only do you help your fellow Micro Center customers make better, more informed purchasing decisions, but you give us the opportunity to provide a better product to you all going forward. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Jcwillis4 ✭ January 11 First, Thanks to the OP and to the MC folks who have been so active on this thread.  It's great to see active support in a retail tech forum.  I came here because I wanted to find out if I had the latest BIOS, and was glad I didn't end up downloading the wrong stuff since the Z490 gaming plus does have new BIOS from Dec and I didn't want to brick my rig.  I don't recall ever owning a PC that didn't have BIOS updates at least once a year, so I find it strange MC doesn't expect there to be any.  But I don't buy a lot of prebuilt, so that could be it. In the spirit of feedback and answering some questions others have posted in the thread, here's my experience.  I bought this PC in late Nov, and I've had no issues with the setup out of the box.  However, I also wanted to get Dragon Center working, modify/spruce up the PC, and try some gentle overclocking.  I've run across a few things here and there. Dragon Center (working, but what a pain).  Needed Dragon Center in order for Razer Chroma to connect to Mystic light.  The first install stalled out on first load, I'm thinking because some of the components are already installed by the standalone Mystic Light software.  Doing an uninstall did not remove all the Dragon Center files, SDK, or registry keys.  You have to go uninstall the MSI SDK shown in the add/remove programs menu specifically in order to remove it. In my case, even that wasn't enough to get rid of all the files, so I had to use Revo uninstaller (free trial) to nuke the program by pointing it at the MSI\One Dragon Center folder and having it scan everything that refers to it (there was a lot).  Once I did that, I installed the most recent Dragon Center (2.0.96.0) from MSI with zero issues.  It does connect to Razer synapse as it's supposed to and works ok, but you have to play with it to get it just right (MSI/Razer clunky software, not the hardware).  Dragon center also boosted my performance by hitting their Extreme Performance user scenario (just turn off software fan control in DC or it will run fans at 100% ALL THE TIME), which got me a few hundred extra points in the 3dMark benchmark. BIOS screen changed on me (not a big deal).  I popped in an additional 32GB of ram (video editing and I needed some sweet sweet RGB) from GSkill, matching the speed and timings.  The Ram works great, but the American Megatrends splash screen that loads during bios phase of startup has been replaced with a simple text that says PowerSpec ever since I put the Ram in.  Don't think there's any real impact, but what's up with that? Feedback - The PC is really good, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.  It's the first pre-built I've bought in 15 years simply because I couldn't get the card otherwise and I really needed an overall upgrade to my gaming rig.  I had Cyberpunk in mind when I bought it, and it's handled it pretty well out of the box, and even better than that after some tuning via MSI afterburner.  I've been running it at 4K with DLSS and RT on and I'm very happy.  I've gotten it up to 14,275 points on the 3dMark TimeSpy benchmark, which seems really decent for the specs in this PC. Parts sheet.  This thing is built to look like a gaming PC and specifically has one of the hardest to get graphics cards out there, plus it's water cooled with a GIANT CLEAR WINDOW on the side.  A lot of the customers buying it are likely going to be enthusiast gamers who want to open the hood and start making changes, or at least learn about what they have.  It would be super helpful to have a full spec sheet listed somewhere/in the box so we can refer to things like model numbers for the AIO or case fans if we want to upgrade.  I've gone crazy adding RGB stuff just because, including some ram, LED strips, and I'm thinking about swapping the fans for something addressable.  It would be great to know the details about what I have in here in a quick reference. Modular PSU.  In the theme of making the looks better, I wanted to change out the rainbow power cables for something all white to let the lights pop, but the power supply isn't modular for the main CPU cables.  It's such a simple upgrade that shows off your PC if the PSU is modular, and I'd highly recommend using fully modular PSU's in future gaming PS PCs. The case could be prettier.  This one is the most boring of the Lian Li 205's in my opinion.  The flat black front just makes me sad vs all the stuff going on behind it.  The 205 mesh from the same line would have been so much prettier and shown off the case fans.  I'm actually going to reach out to Lian Li to see if I can cheaply buy one of the mesh fronts for the 205 mesh if it will fit just to pretty up the front of the case.  If not, my wife's vinyl cutting will come to the rescue. No bloatware! Thanks for not making this a bloatware monster.  Other than the antivirus spammer (which I understand), it was a very clean install. Lastly,  I've been primarily a Fry's shopper for years because MC was just a little bit farther away from wherever I happened to be living.  Fry's is a ghost town these days and looking really sad, so I gave MC a shot for the first time in probably 10 years.  I've been in the store probably 4 times since Nov because of the selection and the people.  Terrific work, thanks! -John 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin January 12 Jcwillis4 said: First, Thanks to the OP and to the MC folks who have been so active on this thread.  It's great to see active support in a retail tech forum.  I came here because I wanted to find out if I had the latest BIOS, and was glad I didn't end up downloading the wrong stuff since the Z490 gaming plus does have new BIOS from Dec and I didn't want to brick my rig.  I don't recall ever owning a PC that didn't have BIOS updates at least once a year, so I find it strange MC doesn't expect there to be any.  But I don't buy a lot of prebuilt, so that could be it. In the spirit of feedback and answering some questions others have posted in the thread, here's my experience.  I bought this PC in late Nov, and I've had no issues with the setup out of the box.  However, I also wanted to get Dragon Center working, modify/spruce up the PC, and try some gentle overclocking.  I've run across a few things here and there. Dragon Center (working, but what a pain).  Needed Dragon Center in order for Razer Chroma to connect to Mystic light.  The first install stalled out on first load, I'm thinking because some of the components are already installed by the standalone Mystic Light software.  Doing an uninstall did not remove all the Dragon Center files, SDK, or registry keys.  You have to go uninstall the MSI SDK shown in the add/remove programs menu specifically in order to remove it. In my case, even that wasn't enough to get rid of all the files, so I had to use Revo uninstaller (free trial) to nuke the program by pointing it at the MSI\One Dragon Center folder and having it scan everything that refers to it (there was a lot).  Once I did that, I installed the most recent Dragon Center (2.0.96.0) from MSI with zero issues.  It does connect to Razer synapse as it's supposed to and works ok, but you have to play with it to get it just right (MSI/Razer clunky software, not the hardware).  Dragon center also boosted my performance by hitting their Extreme Performance user scenario (just turn off software fan control in DC or it will run fans at 100% ALL THE TIME), which got me a few hundred extra points in the 3dMark benchmark. BIOS screen changed on me (not a big deal).  I popped in an additional 32GB of ram (video editing and I needed some sweet sweet RGB) from GSkill, matching the speed and timings.  The Ram works great, but the American Megatrends splash screen that loads during bios phase of startup has been replaced with a simple text that says PowerSpec ever since I put the Ram in.  Don't think there's any real impact, but what's up with that? Feedback - The PC is really good, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.  It's the first pre-built I've bought in 15 years simply because I couldn't get the card otherwise and I really needed an overall upgrade to my gaming rig.  I had Cyberpunk in mind when I bought it, and it's handled it pretty well out of the box, and even better than that after some tuning via MSI afterburner.  I've been running it at 4K with DLSS and RT on and I'm very happy.  I've gotten it up to 14,275 points on the 3dMark TimeSpy benchmark, which seems really decent for the specs in this PC. Parts sheet.  This thing is built to look like a gaming PC and specifically has one of the hardest to get graphics cards out there, plus it's water cooled with a GIANT CLEAR WINDOW on the side.  A lot of the customers buying it are likely going to be enthusiast gamers who want to open the hood and start making changes, or at least learn about what they have.  It would be super helpful to have a full spec sheet listed somewhere/in the box so we can refer to things like model numbers for the AIO or case fans if we want to upgrade.  I've gone crazy adding RGB stuff just because, including some ram, LED strips, and I'm thinking about swapping the fans for something addressable.  It would be great to know the details about what I have in here in a quick reference. Modular PSU.  In the theme of making the looks better, I wanted to change out the rainbow power cables for something all white to let the lights pop, but the power supply isn't modular for the main CPU cables.  It's such a simple upgrade that shows off your PC if the PSU is modular, and I'd highly recommend using fully modular PSU's in future gaming PS PCs. The case could be prettier.  This one is the most boring of the Lian Li 205's in my opinion.  The flat black front just makes me sad vs all the stuff going on behind it.  The 205 mesh from the same line would have been so much prettier and shown off the case fans.  I'm actually going to reach out to Lian Li to see if I can cheaply buy one of the mesh fronts for the 205 mesh if it will fit just to pretty up the front of the case.  If not, my wife's vinyl cutting will come to the rescue. No bloatware! Thanks for not making this a bloatware monster.  Other than the antivirus spammer (which I understand), it was a very clean install. Lastly,  I've been primarily a Fry's shopper for years because MC was just a little bit farther away from wherever I happened to be living.  Fry's is a ghost town these days and looking really sad, so I gave MC a shot for the first time in probably 10 years.  I've been in the store probably 4 times since Nov because of the selection and the people.  Terrific work, thanks! -John John, This is some fantastic feedback. Your insight on the uninstall process for the pre-installed Mystic Light application is extremely valuable and something we will be taking into consideration when we make custom software requests like this going forward. Your solution with Revo Uninstaller is also helpful to know, should others stumble across the same issue. I appreciate you taking the time to share that. As for the feedback on having a parts list available, that is appreciated as well. I'll pass that along to the powers that be and hopefully we see some progress on that. In the meantime, I am happy to provide information about the components installed in these systems. As for the modular PSU, this has been a tricky area to dial in on. We personally prefer modular PSU's as well as they are easier to build with (less cables to tie off/store out of place) and decided to include the spare modular cables in accessory kits. Unfortunately we ended up in situations where accessory kits would get tossed out accidentally or lost, or customers would return/exchange their units and forget to include the accessory kits in the system box, resulting in modular PSU's with missing PCIe/SATA power cables. It was eventually decided that the safest course of action was to simply plug all of the cables in and safely tuck them out of the way of fans/components and let customers grab the cables as they needed them. The downside to this is that it adds time having to install the cables, and creates a bit of a "rats nest" in front of the PSU, which might be less aesthetically pleasing for some. The upside is that nobody ends up missing random cables with their system and typically has everything they need. Since the cables were going to be plugged in anyways, going with a semi-modular or even a non-modular PSU would save time for the production team and cost for the customer since the component itself is less expensive for a non-modular. Still, the more feedback we get on this subject, the better our likelihood of seeing change in this area.  As for the chassis, this unfortunately will always be a subjective area that is difficult to address. Depending on who you ask, some want gaming-class performance without it looking "too gamer-y", while others would like to see the system embrace the target demographic entirely and go all in on the "gamer aesthetics". The mesh front panel design is a good idea, though it would warrant additional acoustic testing as that is yet another area of concern that we often come across, especially with these higher end systems is fan noise. Compromising between raw performance, acoustic tolerance and aesthetics can be a difficult balance to achieve and can often change depending on who it is you are asking. Still, feedback is always valuable nonetheless and having a consensus on this is never a bad thing. My personal systems are always on open-air test benches with loud fans, so I am typically the last person to ask when it comes to "does this sound quiet enough?", lol. As for the lack of bloatware, this is something we are still very proud of, and something we do not intend to compromise on. The only software we try to include with our systems are RGB control software, a free trial for ESET's antivirus program (which is not pre-installed, it's simply an offer that you can then install should you wish to take advantage of it), and on rare occasions for systems such as our laptops, we may have a unique control panel for the laptop fans and RGB keyboards. Aside from that, we don't want anything else bogging the computer down or getting in the way of the customer experience.  Again, thank you for the feedback, it is always appreciated. As for the change in your BIOS splash screen, I can actually answer this question. There are two splash screen configurations for any given BIOS on any given system. One for Legacy, one for UEFI. For our PowerSpec systems, we typically keep CSM Compatibility Mode disabled, which disables the Legacy BIOS, which should disable the American Megatrends splash screen. If you were seeing this before, it is likely that the setting wasn't correctly disabled on your system prior to you receiving it. You mentioned adding memory, which likely meant you cleared your BIOS defaults to remove the XMP profile (this is just a guess, but I'd wager that it's a likely situation, given what you've described). If this was done, CSM Compatibility will be disabled again, meaning the UEFI splash screen will load by default, which is our PowerSpec splash screen. This isn't going to harm your computer in any capacity, we simply prefer keeping CSM disabled as most people do not load Legacy operating systems anymore. Even Windows 7 can be installed under UEFI, and most modern chipsets don't even have legacy drivers anymore, so it makes sense to have it disabled for the sake of faster boot times and less clutter in your boot options for devices that have both legacy and UEFI boot parameters. Hopefully that made some sense of the weird quirk you ran into. As always, we are happy to address any concerns anyone may have with their systems. Feel free to reach out anytime! 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JOSEPH_NOHS1 ✭ February 27 So this may seem annoying but I believe it is relevant, I have the G436... No Driver or bios updates from the manufactures(Other then from nvidia)...? Thats crazy, and microcenter dosent think their will be any in the future.. So question wen the new 11th gen or for that matter the 12th gen la112 socket upgrade how will update the BIOs to accomidate new generations of CPU? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Ian admin February 27 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/28621#Comment_28621 Hello, as Michael states above "I do not anticipate that a BIOS update will be available for this board unless one is required to address a specific security or compatibility issue with the board." If there are indeed any updates when/if that time comes, information will be surely posted to here or on the Micro Center / PowerSpec websites about it. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook frunobulax ✭ March 30 OK, how about Resizable BAR Support for the included graphics card that supports it? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin March 30 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/30374#Comment_30374 This is a good question. I am going to quote myself from a different thread for a different model, but the context is quite similar: https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/29234#Comment_29234 This feature in and of itself would not warrant the request and requalification of a new BIOS as the feature cannot be utilized without also flashing the VBIOS of the video card which is currently unavailable at this time with no real ETA as to when we will actually see a VBIOS update. Some GPU board partners have started rolling them out (Gigabyte & Galax being the most notable) but so far no word from others yet. The big concern with having to update a VBIOS to make use of this feature is the risk of bricking a card during the process. Unlike traditional motherboard BIOS updates, NVFlash does not have a "crash-less" feature. It's done live in the OS through a flashing utility, and anything that can interrupt the process will result in a bricked card. This wouldn't be too much of a risk for cards with dual-VBIOS support, but the cards we ship in the G436 do not have dual-VBIOS support. Once the VBIOS is flashed, it's done. Lastly, I want to talk about the motherboard BIOS in general. Retail MSI motherboards have access to the M-Flash utility for BIOS flashing, but System Integrator boards with SI BIOS support does not use M-Flash natively. If we were to release a BIOS update for these boards, they would have to be flashed via EFI which can be incredibly risky. EFI flashing does not offer any write protection, meaning the BIOS will flash whatever is on the drive that you point it to. The risk of bricking the board increases exponentially in this scenario. I won't rule out the idea of releasing a BIOS update for aforementioned stability/security or compatibility issue with the board, but I do not anticipate releasing a BIOS update to accommodate new features in GPU technologies, especially when they are still ironing out the support for those technologies across other platforms. I hope this answered your question. As always, if you have any additional questions, please let us know! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook PABLOGR3 ✭ March 31 Hi, I have an RTX3070 and the Powerspec B745 with same "Chinese"MSI motherboard. I definetely want Resizable BAR Support and Nvidia has released an VBIOS firmware update for the RTX3070 Founders Edition. Please update your motherboard! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin March 31 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/30461#Comment_30461 As stated previously, I do not anticipate going through qualification efforts for a new BIOS for this feature. I can understand the desire for it, but it's currently not in a state that is finalized across all vendors nor would it be feasible to introduce a flashing method for the cards we've included with our systems without the potential to brick the graphics cards, rendering them inoperable. There is also the risk with performing a BIOS update on these particular boards, as it's not a simple M-Flash update. It requires performing an update with write protection disabled, which dramatically increases the likelihood of something going awry during the flashing procedure and resulting in a bricked board. Our priority for our systems is to make sure that the systems are completely stable and operating as designed in their original hardware configuration. Releasing BIOS updates for third party hardware/software support sounds great, but the amount of time required to qualify and get these BIOS's up to our standards would hinder future product development, especially if it were done across all of our product models. BIOS qualification is not as simple as replacing the splash screen with our PowerSpec logo, it involves tedious testing that includes but isn't limited to: USB port mapping - Making sure your USB ports enumerate correctly and that your devices are recognized the moment they are plugged in TPM functionality works without issue - Ensures that the processors integrated TPM functionality is working and enabled to take advantage of Windows 10's more in-depth security features Secure Boot functions - Makes sure Secure Boot is working properly, keys can be cleared/loaded and that you can enable & disable it at will Memory trains without issue - This is one of the most tedious and difficult tasks as it differs per BIOS update. We make sure that many different kits of memory work on this board & BIOS combination in the event that customers wish to upgrade or change their memory configuration. This includes the use of single rank/dual rank kits, higher capacities (32GB, 64GB, etc) and various frequencies (2667mhz, 3200mhz, 3600mhz, etc) in said aforementioned capacities. Every BIOS needs to be requalified as every BIOS can potentially change the way your memory controller trains memory. What was once stable may no longer be stable after a BIOS update, this is especially true when running 3600mhz kits or dual-rank kits as they are higher on your CPU's IMC by default. That's just a very short list of what actually goes on during our BIOS qualification efforts, but it's required for every single BIOS update. It also ignores the quirks we run into sometimes that need to be addressed. Those can include RGB color assignment being completely backwards (red = green, green = red), XMP context menu not functioning at all (lets you load XMP, but saving settings doesn't actually do anything or commit any changes for XMP) or Secure Boot's menu prompting you to discard changes the moment you change the secure boot status. Some of these quirks actually find themselves in live BIOS updates which is why we often recommend not to update the BIOS unless absolutely necessary. Make no mistake, I do understand the frustration of everyone here when it comes to this subject. It's an unfortunate side effect of prebuilt systems when it comes to future upgradability & expandability, but that is one of the benefits of custom built PC's that we often struggle to emulate in this industry. Many of our other PowerSpec models offer the option to use vendor-supplied BIOS updates (albeit without the benefits of our custom efforts as described above) but those systems do not use System Integrator boards. The G436 and B745 are unique as they use System Integrator boards designed for use in mass production and are not sold in retail stores like the boards we use in our other systems. This allows us to meet the demand for these systems when board supply is a bottleneck, but it does come at a cost of future support for those that would choose to use a vendor BIOS over our own, as there are no vendor BIOS updates available for this SI board that we are aware of. While I cannot promise support for third party hardware & features with our system, I can promise that they will be free of defects and issues during the warranty period of the system. Even beyond that period, I can promise that we will be here to answer any questions and provide support for issues you encounter with your system that is preventing it from operating as it was originally shipped. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ April 1 "Our priority for our systems is to make sure that the systems are completely stable and operating as designed in their original hardware configuration. Releasing BIOS updates for third party hardware/software support sounds great, but the amount of time required to qualify and get these BIOS's up to our standards would hinder future product development" In other words: As a Power Spec buyer, you should be aware that we don't support anything beyond the original hardware and firmware configuration and that the motherboard, even though we advertise it as a mainstream motherboard, is in fact a somewhat inferior board and you cannot upgrade as if it were a retail board. You should make your customers aware of this instead of somewhat clouding the issue by stating in the specs that this is a MSI Z490 Plus, which obviously it is, but we as a purchaser of this computer won't realize this until we get it home and sometime later wish to make use of the MSI bios update and by then realize our Z490 Plus is nothing like the ones on the manufacturers website. Many, if not most of us only bought this system because we couldn't get our hands on a new generation GPU. I tried for six months to obtain an RTX3000 series card to build my own system and finally gave up and bought the pre-built G436. But I was very disappointed to find a non-retail MOBO that will not be able to take advantage of new features going forward. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMichaelB admin April 1 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/30516#Comment_30516 I hear you loud and clear on this, and it's definitely feedback I'll be passing along to the rest of my team. The most difficult part of this hardware shortage in general is trying to figure out a way to get people the hardware they are looking for and figuring out where best to compromise in order to do so. Compromising on GPU/CPU performance is often a no-go as that's often the two components most directly involved with ones gaming performance, but compromising on the platform itself can also impact the future upgrade potential of those very components, so it can be a tedious balancing act to maintain. The G436 as configured allowed us to get a lot of these highly sought after cards into the hands of a lot of customers while providing excellent performance as a whole. At the end of the day, customer feedback is our best shot at improving our products. It's why we take our product reviews seriously and why we enjoy interacting with you all on this forum. If there are areas that we still require improvement on for our PowerSpec systems, we would like to hear about them so that we can better improve our products going forward. Trust me, we'll be keeping an eye on these threads and we always take everything into consideration. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DMA ✭ April 2 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/30531#Comment_30531 "Compromising on GPU/CPU performance is often a no-go" Your statement above is in direct opposition to Micro Center's action. As by not updating the BIOS to take advantage of new GPU features you are in fact "Compromising on GPU performance". Furthermore, I for one would have been more than happy to have paid the extra cost for a "Retail" board that received manufacturers support going forward than to have to depend on Micro Center alone for support, only to find out later that there is none. I doubt many of the buyers of Power Spec computers are even aware of this. 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I had started my career in web design and finally got a really nice paycheck. And what better to do when you get that first paycheck than to spend it on building the best machine money could buy at that moment. And so I did. I ordered a new full ATX tower, a top notch motherboard, enough memory to last me through - well - a few years, and the shiny jewel: my beloved Pentium II. I lived in the Netherlands back then and had to order each part from the US which added to the delivery time. It would just add to the anticipation. Waiting the weeks before that big box of stuff would show. And of course I was terrified that things might break during shipment. But Lo and Behold, three weeks later there was this perfectly intact cardboard box waiting. Each and every separate unopened box a sight to behold all wrapped in their individual cellophane wrapping. Everything was in pristine condition.  So I waited for a moment I simply had all the time in the world to hook things up. I had been building PCs for a long time then, and this would be that wonderful event - and so, on the next Friday night, I started. All happy and excited. And the moment supreme, sliding that encased processor into the slot and hook it up. It was so beautiful... But hey... what was that? There, right on the bottom corner of my motherboard lay one single low power cable. All by itself. Everything else was hooked up. Just not this one. It's plug had no description like the other ones had, and it came straight from the ATX tower. And as we all know by now: Just leave it be. But I was young and it all needed to be neat and correct. So I read up on the manual, and there was no description in the manual of the tower as well.  But the manual of the motherboard shed some insight. Or a solution more or less. As there was, right near that lose cable, one little tiny socket that actually was assigned "unused" or something like that. Well... there you go. I have an unused cable, and an unused plug. A match made in heaven.  Yes, I am smarter now. So, after weeks of waiting, that moment was finally there... turning on the power. Drum rolls all over. The fans came on, that beep from the motherboard, and everything started to smell nice and toasty and... wait... what? In a flash and a bright flame I saw my beautiful new processor burn to a crisp. For a few minutes I was sitting there, mouth open, seeing the plastic processor case crumple up in a nice sweet sizzle. I took the computer, put it right in the attic and thus started my first and only computer-free-month I have experienced ever since (until the new paycheck came in). I ordered a pre-built one 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BigChungus44 ✭ January 26 Not the worst, but when I built my friend his system I couldn't find the motherboard standoff screws and so I decided I would try to see if any of the other screws fit. The radiator screws from his cpu aio fit semi decently. (I had not yet screwed the radiator in and did not know that they were the radiator screws, as all of the parts were just sitting out on the table.) I went about screwing all of them into the motherboard as far as they could go. I was using this really bad screwdriver that he had there though and most of the screws were stripped though. I had not stupidly thought to put the radiator first, and I had a whopping total of 1 screw for the radiator. It was pretty late at that point and I decided I was just going to go home and finish it for him tomorrow. The next day when I went back I somehow managed to find the correct standoff screws from under a few boxes and I was going to try to put them in instead of the radiator screws. I then realized that the fact that most of those screws were stripped was going to be very time consuming. Took about an hour and thirty minutes to wrench out all of those screws and put in the new ones. There were enough screws left to securely screw in the radiator. We had 4 screws that weren't stripped so we screwed in the radiator with that. Then when cable managing I had to take out the radiator and remount it twice because I had a bunch of cables that it was blocking. Thankfully though, his build did get completed and is still up and running to this day. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook InfinityNieR ✭ January 26 Friend wanted me to replace the AMD cooler for an AIO cooler inside his PC. Accepting this was my 1st mistake knowing that it's a really small case (InWin a1). 2nd mistake was everyone knows that if you don't warm up a am4 CPU, that sucker will come out from the motherboard and attached the cooler. I did warm up the CPU but the problem was removing the air cooler out. So little space to work with and sure enough. The CPU was was attached to the air cooler with so many bent pins. My heart stopped and it wasn't my CPU, I could just imagine what my friend thought too. I was able to straighten out the pins with a tiny flat head. Made sure the CPU dropped into the motherboard easily, applied the thermal paste and put the AIO on there. Crossed my fingers and PC turned on but you best believe my heart was beating really fast right before that boot. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Corporal_BC_76 ✭ January 27 Had an FX8370 stick to the stock heat sink and pull the CPU out of the Socket.  It looked like the CPU was going to be fine, but when I went to remove the CPU from the heat sink, the CPU let go the second I touched it.  It hit the work bench and down to the floor it went.  Bent pins down one side.  Tried to straighten them out, but one broke.  So sad.  Had to buy a new FX8350 to replace it with. B  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Dil ✭ January 27 Back in the day, I built a Pentium 3 computer with 256 Ram 8mb VGA. When I turned the PC on for the first time. It started smoking. I quickly turned off the electricity but damaged was already done. One of the ram sticks did not sit properly and it started burning. Fortunately, only the slot and the ram got damaged. Motherboard had 4 slots and I had use just 128 for a while. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zantaric ✭ January 27 I have built 2 different PCs over the years and both came with their own headaches. The first PC I ever built was a rig made from spare parts from coworkers who were upgrading their own PC. I was 16 at the time and didn't think that I should put the motherboard in a case before I started putting things on it. After all was said and done, I had built my computer with no case resulting in it not fitting in the case I had bought (the graphics card was too big). So I ended up using an older case from a computer that was being scrapped, it had jagged bits of metal on the inside. Fast forward down the line to a couple of years ago when I finally had the finances to upgrade the PC I had built so long ago. I completely forgot that lesson I learned that day and tried to upgrade it using the same case before giving up and picking up a new case from your parkville store (Thank you again to the associate who didn't question the man with thermal paste and blood on his hands). After finally getting a good sized case and replacing just about every part since I didn't realize my new motherboard wasn't going to work with any of my older parts, I finally had what is my current gaming rig setup. I had cut myself on the old case so many times that I am pretty sure the watercooler has bits of my blood in it, thus I have named the machine Vlad. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook KWottrich ✭ January 27 I was sending my used computer parts off to a friend after getting an upgrade for myself.  I was putting the CPU cover back on the Intel motherboard, but I didn't realize the cover went on OVER the metal bracket.  I had put the plastic cover directly on the CPU pins, and was trying to close the metal bracket, and it jammed the pins in the cpu socket down!  I have built multiple computers, and I can't believe how stupid I was in that moment.  The motherboard was effectively dead at that point... I'm just glad I didn't do that to a brand new motherboard! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook NAP ✭ January 27 Ohhh, the horror! This, will be the ‘readers digest’ version of a doomed relationship AND failed pc build.  Trust me, the short version will spare all readers from unnecessary drama and details!! So, there was this guy.  Handsome, smart, charismatic, and had a ‘computer background’.  He also had an eye for Nurse(s), me. We dated, off and on, I mentioned that I needed a simple and easy to use desktop. He said “we should build one, it’s real easy and you’ll save a lot of money”. Enter parts ordering, credit card receipts, and well, TIME. Reminder:  I’m a nurse. After two weeks, of placing parts, seating and reseating, plugging and replugging, I listened to my intuition and bravely asked him if he had “really ever built a PC before”.   He, sheepishly said, “no”. Reminder:  I’m a nurse.  We, bury our mistakes! We parted as friends, because posers gonna pose.  He, became the proud owner of some fine computer parts and I hope he was able to find a REAL builder and a more gullible gal. 💔 Thanks MicroCenter.  Your team has never failed me!!!! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AYOXONE ✭ January 27 Ok so here we go this 100% a true story of my pc story. Took a year to get it done. I bought a pre-built used on Facebook Marketplace. It was so underpowered and I was ripped off honestly, thought of it as a learning experience. Unfortunately I couldn't afford another so I figured I'd upgrade as I go. First I found a ryzen 1700x for $80 I mean yea that's a score and it's definitely better than the 1200 in there. So I drive an hour to get it. Bring it home and make a huge mistake putting it in. Didn't seat it correctly and when I put on the cooler I bent the pins. Not only that but it broke the motherboard chip slot. Ahhh this computer is bad luck I say. Now I have nothing because I sold the original cpu to keep my cost down, and the motherboard was more than my cpu. My wife was hounding me already and I just started. I watched a jayz2cents video and after a couple days I was ready to try the fix. I did it. Wasn't perfect but after a couple wiggles on the lock that made it perfect. Yay I'm back up and running.  Next was the gpu and rx 550 2gb? Nope wouldn't do. Found an rx480 8gb reference for $100 again. What could go wrong!?!  Took it home and plugged it in. Unfortunately didn't think and about the power output difference. Boom its smoking!!! Literally. The 300w stocking power supply couldn't hold up. Yea gold rated my butt. So I make another mistake 🙃.  I ordered a raidmax from Newegg. It was cheap and now I have no computer again until it's fixed. Gets in and computer turns on but for some reason it's flickering green omg I can't take this. 😫 I try every solution possible thinking it's drivers. I find hanging it slightly out of the hdmi ports works best. Ghetto but I gotta make it work. The card has 1 hdmi slot and 3 display ports so I had no choice. Microcenter actually helped me with this later on. I went into microcenter for a new case. Go in an find this awesome lian li on sale. Yes less complaining from the wife. In her defense rent in Boston is high lol. Also microcenter helped me get an dp to hdmi adapter I hoped would work. Take it home and find the proprietary motherboard in the omen doesn't have an io and it doesn't line up. Great... now my computer is in pieces. So I decided to put it back in the old case. Whippy wasting money. Except when I'm put it back together I smell smoke again while I'm enjoying my Apex Legends. It's the power supply again. Except it also blew my motherboard with it. Found that out after I went to microcenter for a new psu. I wasn't touching "raidmax" ever again.... Bronze my butt. Now with a new new power supply, motherboard (not proprietary), cpu, gpu, case, and side. I'm ready and after putting rebuilding it over 10 times. I'm ready to go. Right? No even after all this I kept going. Yea it was a horror story, but my computer was like one of my kids. I had to sell it due to being laid off. Covid. I'm looking to build a new one but prices are so high for everything now. It's gonna take longer. But when the time does come I can honestly say I learned everything about building computers. Feel like a pro now! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TLed3 ✭ January 27 Around 10 years ago, I went to build my first computer.  I ordered a "combo" which included CPU, motherboard and RAM, along with two monitors, case, and everything else I needed to complete the build from a big mail order company.  The order was placed around Thanksgiving.  It shipped out in two boxes, but a week later I had only received one of them.  After arguing with the company for a couple weeks, they finally sent out the replacements for the items I was missing.  I finally had all the components just before New Years Eve.  I went to assemble the computer, and quickly found out that this company's combo included DDR3 RAM when the motherboard needed DDR4.  After a fair amount of swearing, I decided the best course of action was just buy the needed RAM locally.  So the next morning I was at my local MicroCenter when they opened the doors to buy this component.  In retrospect, I should have stuck with MicroCenter through it all.  Lesson learned! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DrPlanarian ✭ January 27 edited January 27 I am getting ready to build a replacement for a computer I built for myself (from all MicroCenter parts!) back in 2010.  It was very high-end at that time but, at the ripe old age of eleven, although it is still going very strong (and I am using it now to type this) it has many parts that are no longer supported by their manufacturers, so I think that it is time now to retire my trusty old steed to pasture. When I first built it so many years ago it almost worked right "out of the box," but not quite.  It did not come up the first time, but I just opened the case and discovered that I had plugged the system drive into the wrong SATA head on the motherboard, and after I fixed that (it took about two minutes start-to-finish) it came right up -- the feeling of satisfaction was exquisite! I loaded the O/S and was in the process of loading my most essential applications when it was bedtime.  We had a storm that night and I remember being awakened by a particularly loud clap of thunder, but we have lots of thunderstorms in northern Virginia and I thought nothing of it and went back to sleep. I got up the next morning and could not get onto the Internet.  I could not even get to my router.  I checked everything out and it all seemed to be working, but I could get no network connection at all.   I could run Windows and MS Office, play games, watch saved videos and do everything self-contained that the computer had on it, but no contact with the outside world.  I could not even see the Network Interface Card in my Control Panel. It turned out that a bolt of lightning had actually struck the outside wall (which is brick with wire mesh reinforcement) to my office, and my Ethernet cable was touching the inside of that wall.  The bolt of lightning had fried the NIC on my brand new motherboard, and all I could do was disassemble it and replace the motherboard.  What a royal PAIN! But all's well that ends well.  MicroCenter, which stands behind what it sells like no company I have ever known, replaced it for free, and after I rebuilt it nearly from scratch the replacement is still chugging along just fine (if you consider obsolete, no-longer-supported hardware and little annoyances like Bluetooth v. 1.0 and 802.11n wireless to be "fine"). (The odd thing is, the lightning bolt did NOT damage my router (a D-Link), which continued to work for years afterward.) 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Nev ✭ January 27 A while back I had bought the rtx 2080 gpu just when it came out, I was excited to build my first pc then around mid-build I tripped over one of the psu cables fell and spilled coke all over the build. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook sniperwhg ✭ January 27 A year or two ago, I was traveling between my university dorm room and my permanent residence which involved transporting my computer through the airport. When I got home, reassembling the PC seemed to be normal. Upon booting up, all the fans twitched and nothing would happened. After hours of diagnosing, I proceeded to Microcenter to purchase a new PSU while the old one was in RMA. Successfully, the computer booted and all the components whirred to life. Except the AIO pump, which decided that it had lived a long and fulfilling career, and would end its run by emitting grinding noises before completely seizing. After replacing the AIO, I was finally able to start using my PC again, running a few benchmarks to test stability before resuming full use. A few months later, I decided to upgrade to an M.2 SSD and a few other components, which once again took my PC out of commission for a week. Although it was hard to tell, I was eventually able to prove that the SSD unit was DoA and replaced it, leaving me a system that I'm still using to this day. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Eht ✭ January 27 One time, as I was getting new parts to migrate my PC to an ITX case, before I knew a lot about part compatibilities, in the process of upgrading my computer, I played around with BIOS settings, including accidentally changing my RAM to an incompatible frequency. In a panic, I thought that I had bricked my new parts, or old parts, and had no clue what to fix, so I spent the next two weeks and 30+ hours buying new parts, side parts (like different GPU riser cables), exchanging parts, returning parts (including getting the same RAM kit replaced twice), and disassembling and reassembling my ITX PC trying to individually test each part, before a friend mentioned to me that I had just set the ram frequency incorrectly. And that it should have taken me 5 minutes to fix. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook FamilyJoules924 ✭ January 27 Recently built a pc for a friend's brother in another state, 4 months later i get a call saying it doesn't boot. still need to call gigabyte and troubleshoot with a 12 year old. so far i've eliminated the ssd, ram, psu, bios settings, vga, and cpu i'm pretty sure it's either os or MOBO. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook GTech Stuck in Ohio ✭ January 27 edited January 27 Oooo I've got some good stories - There was the time when I was helping diagnose the built-in fan hub in my buddy's NZXT Noctis 450 and I plugged the 5-pin power header into a 4-pin fan connector and caused magic smoke - Or the time when I completely shattered my side panel by accident - Or the time that I did this because I could 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Ed_H ✭ January 27 Tried to improve the air flow in a case. Moved an SSD (OS) and HDD (data) out of the case's basement. The HHD went on top of the PSU shroud. The SSD went behind the motherboard. Turned on the computer. No boot device. Tried again. No boot device. Opened the back panel, everything was connected. Rechecked power and SATA cables on both drives. Restart. No boot device. Put the two drives back in the basement. Boots straight to Windows. Remount the drives to behind the motherboard and on top of the shroud. No boot device.  Double check the modular SATA power cable for the SSD. It was not quite pushed in all the way. In the basement, no problem. Behind the motherboard, just enough tension to pull the connector out of the PSU a tiny bit. Reseated the SATA power cable at the PSU with a good click, and the computer was good to go. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Vince123 ✭ January 28 In 2014, my family decided to splurge and buy a new computer for the household. My parents decided upon a all-in-one pc which basically looked like an oversized iPad with a desktop. While in the process of setting up the wires and cables through the desk holes, my dad accidentally nudged the pc off the desk. Unlucky for us, the desk was near the station that my dad uses for his home improvement projects. There were power tools just laying around the and pc just happened to slid off the wrong end. The screen goes straight down onto the tools. BAM! The whole screen is dented and the most of the display won't even light up anymore.  It's a good thing we got a warranty for the pc since we would just spent more than a thousand dollars on a pc we can't even use. We, of course, moved my dad's station into the garage instead of the basement where we used to have it.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AcerPmbiifDbv ✭ January 28 I was happy after finishing my first custom loop build a few weeks ago. with EK 3080FE special water block, which I have been waiting for a long time. I was so much happy, like a child playing in the water. Two hours later, the sound of grilling meat was heard in the EK 3080 FE special water block and.. finally water leaked out. To find out why, I dismantled the water block and looked at it, and there were no two screws in the important part. Fortunately, there was no flood damage to all electronic parts. https://imgur.com/gallery/wEBSSP6 << When I was happy https://imgur.com/gallery/PPalxD2 << When I was in despair 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Artoosa ✭ January 28 I press power button and PC go KABLOOEY.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ShiroBlade ✭ January 28 I used to be a big fan of the bulky heavy Hyper-212 air cooler and I liked adding a 2nd fan to it for the push/pull configuration. I even helped a friend build one with the same cooler. However on my most recent build after I got everything up and running my ram sticks weren't registering... I fiddled around with it and discovered 2 of the 4 memory lanes were dead but everything else worked... So I went back to the store to replace my motherboard returning with the new one. The thing is I had the exact same issue again as well as the same dead memory slot locations! That weekend I went back to the store with my friend. I put the motherboard on the roof of my car to dig out my keys. Now this was A VERY BAD IDEA!!! I got so distracted I forgot to throw my motherboard into my car. We drove off to the store and when I got there I looked everywhere in my car for it so I could return it to discover it was gone... Both my friend and I looked at each other and had a very bad feeling not to mention the words that came out of my mouth shortly afterwards... On the way back we kept an eye on the road and saw nothing... Just in case we thought I grabbed it but didn't we tore apart the place looking for it. Then we decided to drive the route we took to get to the store. After driving about half a block we discovered it fell onto the road about a block away! At this point I can't tell you how happy and upset I was to have found it... I have NEVER seen a motherboard look so beat up in my life... I can't tell you how many cars must have driven over it... After waiting in customer service/returns It was my turn to talk to the store clerk. The conversation was very awkward and involved some strange looks and hesitation. By some miracle the store took it back! Simply put from now on any new build I make I will be using an AIO water cooler if I plan to overclock it. If not then I'll be getting something not so hefty in weight as I believe the culprit was caused by the backplate brackets damaging my motherboards with the extra weight! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Solarak ✭ January 28 My PC building experience took a few turns for the worse... In 2017, I was looking for an affordable way to get a gaming PC. I came across some videos online where you could take a Dell Optiplex, throw in a graphics card, and it could (reasonably) play games. I decided to try this out and found one for about $120 on Craigslist. It had an i5-2400, 8 gb of Ram, and a 500 gb hard drive, including a motherboard and power supply. The idea was simple: I was using my father's computer while I was thinking of buying the Optiplex, and realized that his prebuilt system had a GTX 970 in it! My father doesn't play computer games, so I asked if I could remove it and use it in mine. He agreed and everything went well. When I finally went to buy the dell optiplex, something happened. The one that I had planned on buying was no longer available, but they were willing to accommodate me by giving me a slightly BETTER Optiplex for the same price: this one had an i5-3470 and a 1 TB hard drive. I agreed, and was excited to put the 970 into the Optiplex. This is where things went downhill. I went home only to find out that the inside of this Optiplex had slightly different dimensions. This meant that I could no longer fit the gtx 970 into the Optiplex! I was without a graphics card! I tried sawing off the metal bits inside the computer that was blocking my graphics card, but it didn't work and managed to cut myself on the sharp metal. After a few days of trying to figure out what to do, I conceded and bought a GTX 1060 3gb evga card online. I also decided to upgrade the power supply because I didn't want to take any chances with my new card! Everything eventually worked out in the end, and I had a pretty decent gaming computer for around $350! P.S. I also bought a refurbished monitor for my new system that managed to die within a week of buying it. So there is that as well... 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook guacamole777 ✭ January 28 Back around 2005, I had a computer on which I had upgraded the ram and video card. For some reason it kept restarting, so I decided to investigate. I opened the case and started looking at possible problems. At first glance there was no obvious issue, but suddenly, I saw my life flash before my eyes! Actually, it was a flash before my eyes! I accidentally touched the motherboard with the screwdriver I used to open the case and saw a circuit burn brightly in slow motion from the middle of the motherboard towards the top (To this day I can still remember the jagged pattern of the bright white flash and the smoke). I kept beating myself up for forgetting to disconnect the power and was greatly saddened as I did not have any other computer. Thankfully, I had some money saved up and went to MICRO CENTER right away to check out new hardware. They’ve always had great prices and have always been very helpful with helping one build their own pc. I went home a very happy customer! I bought a Micro Star International board and I forget the specifics of the other hardware. That night I built a new computer without any flowing electrons! 😊 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Asquared0310 ✭ January 28 In 2018 my pc with a EVGA gtx 1080 FTW randomly shut off and wouldn't power back up. I heard a ticking noise coming from the PSU (also from EVGA) so I called up tech support about the power supply. After some basic troubleshooting the guy on the line told me to disconnect the pcie power cables and leave the graphics card in the mobo. The system powered on but a FLAME shot out of the GPU's VRM. I put out the fire but the card was a month out of warranty and since then I've made do with a 1050 ti. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook DarkStarr ✭ January 28 My worst build was probably back when the 2600k was new. I got it all built but after a few days it shut off and wouldn't come back on. Turned out the motherboard died and after swapping the board I found out it killed the 2600k! RMAed the board and CPU and was left with no PC for a while. Later used the RMAed board to build a new machine and it failed within a few hours and killed the CPU yet again! P67 boards were the buggiest I have ever dealt with in terms of needing RMA, features disappearing from the bios due to corruption, killing chips etc. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook jhaluska ✭ January 28 When I was younger, dumber and broker, I had a PSU where the fan would have trouble kicking on. So once I turned on the computer, I would stick a thin screw driver into the back of the PSU and give the fan a kickstart.  I did this pretty routinely.  Till one day I got careless and must have touched a component in the PSU, sparks flew where it left a gouge in the screwdriver and the computer never turned on again.  I felt fortunate I didn't electrocute myself in the process. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Clash ✭ January 28 1. Bought all my Parts for my very first build. 2. Built the computer and it won't post. 3. Return the case and the mobo, try again. 4. it posts 5. test everything via TimeSpy and the like and it's all good.  Next day it crashes during gaming. 6. Spend 2 months trying to figure out what's wrong(it was the my AMD 5700 GPU) and apply the fixes that worked for others with my setup. 7. Realize it's too late to return the graphics card so I end up buying a 2060 Super and it finally works consistently. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MikeG ✭ January 28 A few years ago, I bought all the components for a great PC from Microcenter. I lived a few hours away from the closest Microcenter. I took the parts home, assembled everything, and it just didn't start. I tried removing everything unnecessary (discrete graphics, etc) that wasn't necessary to start. I tried various diagnostic tools. In the end, I had to return all of the parts, because I couldn't determine whether the problem was the motherboard, RAM, CPU, or power supply. Felt like an idiot that day. I've built several other computers without a problem. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook zobfish ✭ January 28 I got into building PCs as a way for my brother and I to bond when we were little. We spent endless hours huddled over the same keyboard together taking turns playing Unreal Tournament on the one PC we had built. Then Diablo 2 was released. Peace, after all, was never an option. No more were the halcyon times of switching every life. No, this was the time of endless Mephisto runs to get that next Stone of Jordan (it was the meta at the time, don't @ me). It was time to build a second computer. Of course, this being the shiny new and presumably faster computer, there was fierce competition for whose it would be. We worked late into the night checking and double checking that every part had its place and not wires were cross. Everything worked the first try, even! For whatever reason, there was an unspoken understanding that whoever it was that would put the disk in the tray to install the game would be the first to get to play it and during the entire build we had been strategically placing the disk closeby to grab it. The build was done, now, and the standoff began, which quickly escalated into a wrestling match. We were moments away from returning to the harmony of days past when the struggle for the disk to get into the tray....snapped the entire tray off the drive. It would be another week of brutal waiting before we got the store to get another. So, folks, just let your brother play first. We're in it together. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook lymanamyl ✭ January 28 Around the time the 2nd gen iPod came out I got it stuck in my head that I was going to get one and I needed a computer with Firewire. Since I wasn't going to build a whole new computer I just bought a new motherboard with a Firewire port and quickly reassembled my PC with all the other existing parts. The 3rd gen iPod came out and I bought it. I plugged it into the Firewire port and looked in horror as the pixels on the LCD screen of the iPod slowly went all black and killed the iPod. I pulled out my PC and opened the case and saw that I had plugged in the Firewire incorrectly into the header pins. In my haste to reassemble everything I did not properly center the female side of the plug into the Firewire pins on the motherboard and they were shifted over by 1 column. I assume one of the data lines got voltage instead and that fried my iPod. Luckily I was able to get it replaced and everything was fine after that. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…45678910» This discussion has been closed. 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I'm a mechanically, electrically, and technologically inclined person thanks to my line(s) of work, so the build process itself wasn't bad. However, I was building at a terrible time - after spending entirely too much to cobble together a budget gaming PC, I got everything up and running. Everything went wrong after about two weeks. Every 20 minutes or so, my PC would just flat-out lock up for a matter of seconds, then return to operating like normal. At first I thought it was a fluke and rebooted for good measure, but this continued over and over again. After looking into the motherboard's most recent reviews at the time, I learned there was a manufacturing problem with that specific board and RMA'ing it only yielded another faulty board for other people - So, I jumped ship to another board and ate the cost to save myself the hassle. After tearing my new PC apart and rebuilding it, everything was good to go again. However, this was in the early days of Ryzen with ram compatibility and clock speed issues which would supposedly be remedied by a BIOS update. I did my research and performed the update per manufacturer instructions, except it froze while in-progress. After waiting hours, I gave up, rebooted, and faced another bad board. At this point, I was defeated and left the PC that could have been for months. Then my old laptop finally bit the dust, leaving me without any PC. This resulted in me heading to the nearby Microcenter and asking a staff member for whatever reasonably priced b450 board they saw being returned the least - they pointed me to the ASUS TUF gaming b450, and after the third time rebuilding my PC once more, everything has been smooth sailing. Since then I've massively overhauled my build, but I'm still using that same board. This one actually survived a BIOS update when I went to update my processor, too - I'll call that a win. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook bjpgolfnut January 19 Built my 1st PC in quarantine this year. My dad heard what I was doing and wanted one too. He was quick to order some parts and IO built him a Ryzen 5 3600, Samsung NVME, x570, Corsair Ram, Rx 580 GPU (that he can upgrade later if he chooses). Build, Power Up and Windows install went off with any hiccup. It has been for 8 months a perfect PC. So now excitedly start my build. Ryzen 7 3700x, Rx 5700xt, Crucial Ram, X570, Crucial P1 Nvme. Build, Power and Windows install went great. The PC has a gremlin somewhere. It has random reboots almost daily. Replaced the power supply and re-installed windows. Still reboots almost daily. I want to RMA the mobo and or the GPU however, Gigabyte has told me the turnaround for each could be 6 months plus. It is my primary work PC as well but I am about fed up with it. Probably will just RMA the parts and start a new build when parts are a little more available.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook CraigR January 19 Imagine trying to build a PC in 2020/2021 and you are able to source all your parts without an issue.  You are super excited to build your PC and get everything working.  You then try to source a GPU, even a used one and find your PC budget build just got thrown out the window. Your build just tripled from a single component because the market is hugely inflated, you sink back into your chair thinking there is no way to continue your build on the budget you had set aside.  I see Micro Center has some GPUs in stock and I rush to the store to be met by a 40 person line. Reality sets in and you admit defeat. I then see Micro center is having a GPU contest for a free RTX 3070, excited re-surges and I continue my budget build in hopes to win. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook NicholasFlamy ✭ January 19 I had purchased a Gigabyte AMD RX5700 XT from Micro Center at the start of 2020. After installing it turned out Gigabyte put a 5600 XT in the box. So I returned it for the correct card because of how great Micro Center is. There is a story told quickly. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Filminator January 20 So I was building my first PC and watching Bitwit's video on how to build a PC to guide me since I had never built one before. And I must have missed a part of the video or wasn't watching when the video was explaining how to install the CPU cooler... so I didn't install my CPU cooler and completely forgot about it until I turned on my pc and realized that the CPU in the video couldn't be seen as it was covered by a cooler and I could see mine as it wasn't covered by a cooler, so I quickly turned it off. There were no problems thankfully but it was still really scary as I had spent so much on the PC and it would have sucked if I ruined it then and there. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook mcmcvirul January 20 I fondly remember gazing into my new PC after properly and lovingly securing the case, and the ensuing giant wad of drool that dripped from my mouth in awe, straight onto the board. I remember freezing in horror as the droplet of saliva dropped on the circuit board, thinking it was all over. The confused panic for a paper towel to clean it was an unforgettable experience. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JakeFrost ✭ January 20 I was in the process of building my PC when I realized I was standing on the carpet after I built it... Soon after I went to boo tit and nothing bad happened as I thought... 2 hours later while I was playing human fall flat I smelt a burning smell and soon after... Yeah to cut to the chase my pc lit on fire and I lost everything then... I got new stuff and yeah I did it again and yeah the same thing happened ;( 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook beri311 ✭ January 20 Back in the day when I first started building computers there were the 486 processors.  I was pretty good at building them then the 586 AMD and Cytrix processors came out.  It was then you had to do all of the DIP switches to change the setting on the motherboards.  I was using the AMD processor that didn't have the nice finish on the top; it was a green circuit board with the processor chip in the middle.  You could see the solder points for each pin around the edges.  I finished building the computer and was getting updates for the I believe Windows 95 and we went to have lunch.  When we came back there was an unbelievable stench of burning electronics coming from back in the shop.  We went back and I was looking at the the computer and noticed that all of the pins had liquid solder on the top of the processor around the edges.  Well I turned off the computer and let it set until the morning.  Upon arrival, I looked at the processor again and all of the solder hardened once I turned off the computer.  It turns out that I set one of the DIP switches wrong for the voltage making it get so hot it re-melted the solder from the factory; I then set it correctly.  Guess what, it still worked!  I thought I was going to have to cough up the cost of the processor!!!! Whew........ 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook GearedInc January 20 So my story has two major parts and if you messed up as bad as I have don't feel terrible! Over the last 14 years of being involved in computers I have built or helped build something like 60 pc's for friends and family, but the first and second computer I ever built was a disaster. I was a 18 and one of my best friends had graduated early and was going to be moving to Australia to live with a girl he met playing World of Warcraft. While I had played games on consoles, I really hadn't ever had a great gaming pc, I was a diehard sports guy playing football and baseball, but this friend who I had known since the 3rd grade was a self taught programmer and kept me in the loop on gaming. When he went to move he suggested I build my first pc to keep in touch. Well at the time I was dead broke and getting ready for college so I didn't have two pennies to my name, but I did have a credit card with a $2000 limit. So I bought the pieces I needed reading forums (Pre-youtube being helpful) and asking advise from Circuit City employees (remember those). Long story short I spent $1500 in brand new parts, which is saying something for the early 2000's and when I finally got it together, there was a short and it literally lit on fire! I was furious and left a scathing review on the website for the motherboard manufacturer as that is where the short occurred. Later I found I out as I started a lengthy refund process that like a dummy I hadn't used any standoffs and the case had acted like a ground and shorted the board! Completely my fault and by the time I found out my mistake I couldn't change the review! Still feel bad 14 years later. The second part of this story is what happened after. Well I got my refund for the parts and ordered all new stuff. This time having a friend I thought knew what he was doing guide me. When the parts arrived I noticed the cpu was too small for it's socket. But being ignorant at the time of the difference with server and desktop boards I chalked it up to a modular socket design (I know!) and put a desktop cpu in a server board. Well it fried the cpu and board, but everything else was fine. My friend helping me build felt so bad he offered to pay for it. I told him instead he could introduce me to a girl in his class he was friends with (a date with a pretty girl at the time was worth far more to me) It took me 10 months to pay off what I owed on the card, and then 2 months to pay cash for the right parts.  By this time my friend had lived in Australia for almost a year and half, and I was so excited to get to play with him! Although he broke up with his girl shortly after and moved back state side, but it started my love with PC gaming and building, so I would say a net win! Hope you enjoyed my story, also I hope you build a store in Utah - Much Love! - Andrew L (GearedInc) 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Chungus January 20 About 2 years ago I decommissioned a Monero mining rig that had become unprofitable, and I decided that I would gift it to this hottie I had met on a previous trip to Miami and continued to chat with, given that her computer failed. Since cases and power supplies are weight prohibitive for flights, when I went back I brought only the gpu, mobo, ram, and ssd on the assumption that she could get everything else in Jacksonville. Umm oops... You don’t what you’re missing until you’re no longer in range of a Microcenter. Just finding a PSU down there was a sordid affair involving several empty-handed dry runs before finally getting an overpriced, low wattage, low efficiency unit at a big box electronics retailer. And it gets worse: apparently nobody in Jacksonville sells computer cases. Literally none in that entire large city. How is this even possible? Unfortunately my gift was a worthless pile of PCB and semiconductors because I took my local Microcenter for granted...  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JoelToro ✭ January 20 I was working with a computer at work and it stopped being able to run a PCIe card on the motherboard. After testing out all the components one by one with a mostly working computer, I found the PSU to be faulty. Figured the PSU wasn't sending power correctly to the PCIe card so I ordered a new PSU and it still didn't fix the problem. Then I figured it was the motherboard itself that. was faulty so I ordered a new one of those. Ended up unseating and reseating the CPU between those motherboards about 20 times with different configurations including the 2 PSUs but nothing was working. Eventually found out the problem was the motherboard was indeed faulty, but the new one didn't have the proper bespoke BIOS configuration to run the PCIe card. Had to get a motherboard from the vendor directly with the proper BIOS installed which finally fixed the issue. All in all I ordered too many parts and it took about 3-4 months to fix since shipping of parts took so long. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JAYPAS January 20 edited January 20 My good friend decided that he was going to build his first PC and bought all these high end parts and had an other buddy come put it together.  They installed everything with out any issue but when they went to turn it on they got nothing.  There was not lights or anything so he reached out to me to come test the power supply to see what the issue maybe.   I stopped by and within seconds could see what the issue was.  They had put in the felt spacers for the screws but had not put in any risers so the motherboard was screwed down to the metal case.  Needless to say nothing good came out of that and the next time he built a PC he made sure he called me first just in case. Another story happen to me, and I am still dealing with it.  Ordered an ASUS P6T motherboard with a top of the line I7 processor back in the day.  Got it with 12 GB of Patriot Memory, 150GB Velociraptor, and a sweet new BFG GTX 260 Maxcore 55.  I'm thinking this thing sound be awesome get it all installed and loaded with Windows Vista Ultimate and it just sits on the most annoying Window emblem.  I start to troubleshoot, so I take out some memory so now I have 10 GB of memory and I get past the emblem but Windows crashes again.  I take out more memory and when I get to 6GB of memory everything runs great.  I test everyone of my sticks of memory but same results only runs on 6GB of memory.  In fact to this day it runs on Windows 10 Pro, Thanks Microsoft for the free upgrade, but still only works with 6GB of RAM. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Donovan January 20 In my first PC build I was installing the cpu fan on the motherboard but I couldn’t get all the screws in. One would go, but not the rest. It turns out it was because the motherboard box I had it on top of was flexing. Got really scared that I stripped the screws, but it all came out fine. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Braf1895 January 20 I do custom build work for most of my friends and family locally. Most of the time I do used part builds to keep cost down for anyone new to PC gaming. I was doing a case swap for a friend so he could run a better CPU cooler, and a motherboard that wasn't mini ITX. Got the whole thing together and no boot. Figured I needed to update the BIOS. Snagged an older i5 2500, and got to flashing the BIOS. System hangs about half way through followed by a shutdown. I thought it just finished and powered itself down. Nope! Bricked BIOS. Installed old motherboard and had to stretch the front panel headers to reach from an ATX full tower. Ended up ordering a $5 BIOS chip to replace the dead one. Got it all together again about a week later. Needless to say, he wasn't too keen on upgrades anytime soon. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zelnar ✭ January 20 Yeah, so, this is going to date me a little. So, I started building machines way back, because, well I couldn't afford a pre-built IBM PC, but I could afford a copy of ComputerShopper and an XT Clone. (Okay, I know I lost most of you there.) I had just finished building my XT Clone and had put in a used 5MB full height drive a friend had got for cheap (he owned a computer store selling unbranded IBM clones)  So, one day I am on a BBS and there is a message that some guy has a handful of "like-new" Seagate ST-225 20MB hard drives for sale for $150 each, some company is upgrading their machines and sold these machines as used and the guy is parting them out.  Cool.  Now, understand at the time 20MB drives are selling new for upwards of $800 each so, I'll take TWO!  Yeah, that was 3 car payments, and drained my account but heck, I couldn't pass it up.  So, they were AWESOME! Two half-height 20mb drives in my computer, yes my friends were jealous! That is until about two months later when there is a knock at the door.  A nice man with an FBI badge and another from AFOSI (Air Force) informed me that they were looking to recover stolen hard drives from Hanscom Air Force base.  Turns out the drives had been brand new, multiple CASES of drives had gone missing, they caught the guy, got my name from the BBS. Anyway, they didn’t charge me with anything, but they did take their drives and gave me a stern warning about “too good to be true deals” and after like 2 days of searching through my entire life and everything I owned looking for anything else and wanting to know if I knew anyone else who had bought the drives, they finally left me alone, poorer, but in peace.  Yeah, so, a year or so later I finally did get a bigger hard drive for my machine, but, that was my build from hell. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Cgaming January 20 edited January 20 My first build ever, I carefully walked through all the pieces. Motherboard, PSU, CPU, RAM, GPU, HDD, etc. Set them all in place and worked out power for each.  Go to push the power button, it beeps then shuts down.  I thought here we go, doa board or faulty psu. Luckily I still had my laptop available at the time. Some google searching pointed me to check the jumper pins.  The pins are small as anyone building can attest to and it turned out I had them flipped the wrong way. Checked the motherboard manual again. Reset the pins and BAM!! Power to bios, loaded my Win 7 ultimate and was in business. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Red786 January 20 Almost a year ago just before quarantine I was moving out of my apartment. My brother was carrying down my pc down 2 sets of stairs. On the last few steps he slipped and dropped my pc. The only thing that broke was my msi gaming x trio 1080ti. I am currently using a asus strix 970 which can't play cyberpunk at 1080p low. I was hopping to get a 3080 when it came out but I haven't had much luck. To make things worse I built a system for a friend who got lucky and bought a ftw3 3080. Now gpu prices have gotten higher so the 3080 is now out of my price range. Things just keep getting worse probably going to wait for prices to go down or go for the 3070ti when it comes out. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Masterkodjo January 20 when putting in my first graphs card i forgot to uninstall Nvidia and install amd so my computer stopped working ,and it keep beeping when I turned it on. Then I factory reset the pc and didn't have the windows key, so my pc had no windows and the graphics card wasn't working so my aunt had to pay for a new windows pro but the pc worked. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook dtemple87 January 20 A friend of mine wanted to build his very first custom gaming PC. Over the course of a few weeks, he bought various components and eventually wound up with enough parts to complete the entire build. He asked me to help him assemble it, and we arranged a time for me to help him... but in the meantime, he got too excited and tried assembling it himself. I went over to help and found a fully assembled system. He told me it wasn't getting power, and he figured he just forgot to plug in a cable somewhere. Upon initially opening the case, I noticed that his power supply was not screwed into the case, and was upside-down (so the fan was facing the solid PSU shroud). The RAM was in the wrong slots on the motherboard. The cables were going absolutely everywhere through the inside of the case. The motherboard was held into the standoffs with 7 of the 9 screws being incorrect. The M.2 SSD was not screwed into the motherboard, and was only held in place by the heatsink covering the M.2 slot. However, all the cables were in the right spots. I started taking it apart piece by piece to figure out the problem and got down to his motherboard, CPU, test ram and a test PSU hooked up outside his case, and still no power coming into the motherboard. I removed his AMD stock heatsink that came with his CPU, and went to remove his CPU to try mine - I also have a Ryzen system. The CPU wouldn't come out. I looked at him and said "I moved the lever up... it's supposed to just lift right out..." and after some messing around with it, I got it out. He had forcibly installed his Ryzen 5 5600X CPU rotated 90 degrees from the correct position, and about a dozen pins on the bottom of the CPU were bent, including 2 bent severely to the point of being flat, flush against the bottom side of the CPU itself. The smallest flathead screwdriver bit I had available, a very steady hand, a lot of patience, some swearing, and a half hour of time later... all the pins were bent back in place and none were broken. I was able to get it to fit into the socket, cycle the lever a few times to really get the pins in place, and double-checked my work. Everything looked good. This time when I switched the PSU on, the RGB lighting on his motherboard lit up. It powered on the first try, POSTed after a few power cycles (as usual for a first-time POST) and we reached BIOS. His RIDICULOUSLY rare CPU was saved! 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook KeisterChasm January 20 It was summer and it was hot. To save money we didn't run the air conditioner. I did however need/want a new computer for college. I went for 3d animation. I bought my dream computer. A great AMD processor at the time, mother board, some top of the line ram, big ass hard drive and 2 Nvidia 8700GTs. Two things went wrong. The store I bought the 8700GTs from told me SLI would make my 3d renders faster. At the time that was a HUGE lie. I wasted my money. After that I vowed to know more than anyone that worked in a store. I should have just gotten the 8800 or splurged and got a quadro. Back to the disaster besides being lied to. It was summer and as I was leaning over to put stuff into my brand new case one drop of sweat dropped on the motherboard. I wiped it off thinking nothing of it. After putting everything together and turning it on I heard a pop. My one drop of sweat blew a capacitor or something and ruined the entire motherboard. Asus at the time had crappy customer service and it took 3 months for me PAYING them to fix it to get it back to me. I spent over 2 grand on that computer and had to wait to use it because ASUS was so slow. Never put together a computer if it is hot. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Manav_Ch ✭ January 21 So this is a horror but success story. So a couple of months back my mom and I are building our first PC. So basically I put the CPU in and drop it terribly to the side so we had to wiggle it around. My mom got super scared that the computer would not turn on because the cpu was damaged. Then when we were putting on a Hyper 212 EVO it would just not go into the screw holes and we had to press extremely hard on the CPU to get it to fit. Once again my mom was scared that the CPU was damaged. Then when we are installing the case fans the EATX connector comes out and does not go back in. Now we are afraid that we broke the connector. Then when we are installing the hard drive it will not fit into the holes correctly. My mom accidentally scrapes the hard drives board and we are afraid that it is too broken. Then after we turn on the computer we find out that we literally have no keyboards in the house cause we threw them away a few months back and the next morning we had to go and buy a keyboard. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook wanginator2006 January 21 I finally decided to build my very first PC and I was so excited.  I used Micro Center's custom pc build option and I got all of the parts that I needed, I even double checked with my friend who confirmed with me that I had gotten all the parts I needed since I was so nervous.  I had never undertaken a task like this before but I was ready.   In any case, I got all of my stuff and went to Micro Center and took everything over to my friends house.  We of course did not look at any instruction manuals but watched a youtube video on what to do from start to finish.  We tried to go in order as best we could and we had finally gotten all the parts inside and the moment of truth arrived... it was time to turn it on.  I pressed the on button and it was glorious.  The PC turned ON... for a second.  It immediately died.  Confusion set over me and I just stood there in shock.  What happened?  Where did we go wrong? We took it to get looked at by a professional but they said that it would be over 2 weeks because it was back to school season and they were flooded with orders.  I asked another friend of mine to take a look and he was able to diagnose the issue, but not before the damage was done.  I had shorted the motherboard because it was not grounded properly.  Long story short, my computer budget exceeded my initial estimate. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook cmr0905 ✭ January 21 Last summer I bought a 2060 over newegg. When I received the part in the mail, the connecting pin was all bent and it looks like a dog chewed it up. I contacted newegg and the seller but I was unable to get my money back due to some bs. Lesson learned, always go to microcenter for everything electronic related! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Arcticthunder ✭ January 21 A couple of years ago I decided to liquid metal my CPU I7-8700k for better overclocking and to keep the noise down. I bought a cheap delidder from amazon for $15 and conformal coating and bought conductonaut from Microcenter. All was going well, I was doing all this on an ESD safe area and I just got the lid off. In an effort to get the CPU out of the delidder I tried to flip it out of the tool. I ended up missing my hand completely and my CPU ended up hitting the wooden floor. Turns out the CPU had bent from the impact with the corner being bent up a couple of degrees. No damage was done to the dye so I figured it would be alright and I just bent the CPU back into shape using my hands and it still gets 5.2ghz to this day  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Dav1d ✭ January 21 I have no horror story. My first build gave me some trouble, ram and cpu compatibility issues, nothing too hard or crazy. Just commenting hoping I win. Thanks Micro Center! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Serzyfritz January 21 Built my first custom loop liquid cooled pc a few years back and after being super thorough checking for leaks and being 100% sure all was well I finally powered on the PC. Success!!!! It booted up and I was into the BIOS beginning to tweak everything when all of a sudden a loud *POP* and then *HISSSSS* were heard and everything shut off. I looked over and saw a small string of dark gray smoke coming from inside the case but no indication where it came from. I quickly disconnected power. Said several choice swear words and walked away for 20minutes questioning all of my life choices and wondering just how F'd I was. I was unable to tell what had smoked itself so I began disassembly of everything. After having it all back in pieces I thoroughly looked over each part and found no issues until I got to the Power Supply, gave it a good sniff and it was definitely the culprit. I had no spare to see if it took out any other parts but thankfully when its replacement finally arrived and installed everything else was happy and worked and I was able to breathe a sigh of relief. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Tilli January 21 When I was building my boyfriend his first PC for Christmas many years ago, I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. I had a friend who offered to FaceTime me and help us pick out parts and then build it later on. I basically took the guys advice on everything, after explaining that this was gonna be for streaming and gaming, as my boyfriend was already streaming and gaming from his PS4. Most of the parts arrived by Christmas, I wrapped them all up, he opened them excited but also I think secretly wishing it was put together already. LOL. So the next day we got everything put together, and it eventually powered on, but would ALWAYS end up powering off randomly. We spent SO MANY DAYS researching online, calling friends, taking it to computer shops, bringing it to our friends houses and trying to troubleshoot, taking it apart and putting it back together, and nothing worked. We didn’t have a lot of money so we couldn’t afford to buy new components, so the poor thing had to use that PC as it was for over a year, and he couldn’t stream or play anything because it would always turn off. He would literally walk by it in the house, or by computers in the store, and say “I wish I bought a prebuilt” hahaha. Eventually the horror story all made sense when I discovered that the CPU (FX-9370) was part of a class-action lawsuit against AMD because it had misrepresented the amount of cores and everyone was having issues with it!!!! By the time the claim was settled in early 2020 (years later) they only sent us like $25 instead of the $300 the claim mentioned, AND we had to replace a bunch of components over time because half the stuff we bought wasn’t compatible with any decent new parts anymore. Fast forward to current and he is able to stream and game, but a 3080 would vastly improve his build, and much satisfy my inner guilt for building him a huge pile of crap for Christmas.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Drew_c ✭ January 21 It was April I was building my first pc and I had finished I turned it on and it made a loud click noise that’s odd I thought I try again the motherboard caught fire and then it fried my psu also with it I found it it got fried because I put fans into the 3 pin cmos clearers. So there went a grand. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook WolfSage January 21 Years ago I was building my first computer. I was so nervous because I had no idea what I was doing. I watched a  few videos and decided it was time to start the build. I went to install the CPU and my hands were shaking like I drank a gallon of coffee. Finally manged to put the CPU in, placed some thermal paste on it before i closed the locking mechanism. All that and realized I didnt seat the CPU properly and now I have a glob of thermal paste on it. Went to re seat the CPU and dropped it upside down and got all the thermal paste into the CPU socket. Did everything I could to clean it out and managed to get some of it out but it was hours of tedious work, contemplating my life decisions, and sulking in my tears while curled up  in a cradle position under my desk. Got the CPU in properly and the motherboard wouldnt recognize the CPU. Probably because it was  soaked with alcohol and still had some thermal paste. Had to get another mother board. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook UneLolitaCharmante January 21 edited January 21 Alright, here's my story. So as I'm sure y'all know, the 5800X was pretty tough to find on release. A friend of mine let me know that my local Micro Center had a few in stock, and I had taken the week off of work, so I figured I'd been putting off upgrading my i7-6700K off for a while now and Cyberpunk is coming soon (heh), so now seemed like as good a time as any to do a little upgrading. So I get there in time to grab one of the last eight CPUs in the store and I grab an open-box X570 board since I'm gonna be using it for a few years. I hear good things about the Aorus board, so I grab that. I get home, take my PC apart, and try to put my cooler on the new mobo and it doesn't fit. Weird, cause according to literally everything else I had read, all I needed to put my h115i on that board was a new mounting bracket ($5 on amazon). I spent days trying to get this thing to fit. My precious vacation time was wearing thin, and because I took my entire PC apart, I hadn't been able to spend it playing anything at all. I figured maybe my older pumphead is just too old to fit. I borrow a friend's spare stock AMD cooler. No luck. I spent yet another $150 on a new cooler that's supposedly compatible. I check online for answers, and finally something catches my eye. Here's a picture of my board: Here's a stock picture of the board: One of the heatsinks was upside down. I lug my PC back to Micro Center and talk to support there and they tell me that the board was tested and it was definitely working. I tell them that it's not. They insist that the motherboard is installed according to factory specs. I tell them it's not. I show them the pictures. They tell me that I'm just installing it wrong. I give up. I ask them to let me pick a board from their stock and just put it in my PC while I'm in the store so I don't have to do this whole song and dance again. They tell me they can't touch my PC without charging me. Finally, they let up and they offer me access to a spare workbench. I grab an Asus TUF board after holding my cooler over the sockets and dubbing it 'good enough.' At this point, I've gotten quite good at taking my PC apart. My pump fits. I cancel the order for the one in the mail. I leave. I get home and try and boot my PC and it doesn't post. Part of my soul dies as I realize that my BIOS is one version too far back to support 5000 series Ryzen chips. I try borrowing my girlfriend's old 1600X to flash it. Turns out the 1600X is too old. I trudge back down to Micro Center and they offer to flash my BIOS for $40. As this endeavor has completely broken me at this point, I begrudgingly accept. I return to the Micro Center an hour later like a new mother looking at her child for the first time, and I breathe a sigh of relief as I see my baby purring away. So that was all two months ago. Nowadays, Tiresia's doing pretty well! She runs everything wonderfully, her temps are great, and she's whisper silent. I don't really fault the Micro Center folks, they were just doing their jobs. If there's a moral to this story, it's probably that 'There's certain things you can't control, but what you can control is how you react to them!' 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1234567…10» This discussion has been closed. 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Do you like that click-y feedback of blues for gaming? Or maybe you're looking for a linear red for typing? So, what's your preferred keyboard switch for your computer? 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Comments SeanM admin January 20 I started with a blue switch Ducky keyboard, until I realized how much noise it was making while I was streaming. I switched over to the silent browns in the Logitech G513 and haven't looked back since, especially as I've been writing more on my computer and I think the blues would drive my roommate up the wall if they heard them all day. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Bigjoe January 20 As of now i like the smoothness and tactility profile of the glorious pandas especially when lubed 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MaxBunny ✭ January 20 I like them all. I buy a new one every time. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook SeanM admin January 20 Bigjoe said: As of now i like the smoothness and tactility profile of the glorious pandas especially when lubed Ohhh I hadn't heard of those before - they look crazy nice! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook TSMikeW admin January 20 Cherry MX Speed switches. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook LandShark admin January 20 Everglide Dark Jade Black switches are preferred but the majority of the time I use Cherry MX Brown switches. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Polizi212 ✭ January 20 I guess I would have to say my current choice is the KT red switches that are in my Inland keyboard. While not the best switches in the market they seem to work really well for me and my style of typing/gaming. At the time I wanted a mechanical keyboard and it was at a price I could justify if I didnt like it, but it was like a duck to water and I have liked it since day one. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Deaner1121 ✭ January 20 My favorite is the cherry mx silent switches. They feel nice and are pretty quiet which is nice for streaming and voice chats and stuff like that. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Ian admin January 21 For some reason, I've always been inclined to use red switch keyboards. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Paul_2 ✭ January 29 A mechanical keyboard earned me my first computer! When I was a child (a LONG time ago), I had been buying the monthly Computer User magazines (inch thick catalog) for mail order parts, and spec-ing out systems that I could never afford.  I had been bugging my mom to buy me a computer, but she never would.  So my Sunday school teacher worked at IBM and brought me a defective keyboard so I could practice my typing at home.  The mechanical keys were so loud, my mom finally bought me a computer within a week (with a quiet keyboard of course).  I had wanted to build a 386DX-33 from the mail order parts but she brought home a 386SX-16 from a yellow and blue store that will otherwise remain nameless. Currently I'm on a Corsair K95 with brown. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Paul_2 ✭ January 29 edited January 29 SeanM said: Bigjoe said: As of now i like the smoothness and tactility profile of the glorious pandas especially when lubed Ohhh I hadn't heard of those before - they look crazy nice! When reading the thread, I had at first thought Bigjoe was maybe not actually talking about a keyboard...*Cough* But then after seeing SeanM's comment I went and googled it, and it is a real thing (and looks cool)! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook aly12 ✭ April 12 edited April 12 I personally like the Cherry MX brown switches. They offer good balance between those loud blue switches and the quick red switches. Also an interesting fact, the brown switches are always selling more than the other switches at least at the Corsair side.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook madscientist42 ✭ April 17 https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/comment/31074#Comment_31074 That's because they're a good compromise between blues and reds. Since my "preferred" is only really offered by Unicomp these days (The good ol' Clacker) I lean from Brown to Blue. Using Browns right now in the Corsair I'm sporting right now. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook aly12 ✭ April 24 That is very cool madscientist42. 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We couldn't get the drive to be recognized, so we took it out and checked the jumper pins and connections, but nothing. After playing with different settings, we gave up on it and my dad decided to ask a friend for help. He knew this guy from a Ham radio club and I think he was an engineer, so my father had the utmost confidence in him. Well, he was wrong. The guy was fiddling with the drives with the power on, and had them hanging loose off the IDE cable, as my dad would say furiously in reference to this event for years after, "LIKE A BUNCH OF FISH!". He knew it was sketch, but for some reason he was compelled to not back seat drive and say anything.  Our working drive's board shorted out with a pop and smoke. To add insult to injury, the guy was aloof and just said "Oh well, it happens". My dad was irate, to the point where he never talked to this guy ever again.  Turns out the motherboard only supported up to 10GB drives, and we got it going with one of those.      0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook afreecaFreek ✭ January 21 My first desktop computer was a gift for starting college - running an AMD FX 8320 and Nvidia 750Ti. My friends had just called me up to play some competitive CSGO matchmaking while I had recently gotten into a multiplayer Civ V game. Not wanting to leave the Civ game I decided to try to play both games at the same time having utter faith that my computer would be able to handle  both games at the same time. After about two rounds into the CSGO match, I heard a pop, smelled burning, and saw some smoke waft out of the top of my PC case. My CPU/Mobo completely gave out due to overheating and some capacitors blowing, and I ended up upgrading to the i7 6700K berating myself the entire time rebuilding the computer. Never have I ever left a Civ game open while playing a different game since then. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Norton January 21 Horror for me is the stupid ones. Like years ago when I sent a customer motherboard for replacement with a M2 SSD still attached to it... No data loss since it was a cache SSD, but I paid a new one out of pocket. But nothing beats the good old taking our new build apart because it does not turn on, but it's only the PSU switch set to 220V. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook JPSHRACER ✭ January 21 My computer horror story is of the first time I was building my first custom built computer. I was having a family friend help me with the installation. We got all the way to turning it on. He decided to use the wall outlet. I plugged in a surge protector. The surge protector light was red and said the outlet was not properly grounded. He said "that it did not matter". He turned on the computer, it spun up and then immediately shutdown. That was the last of that motherboard. I had the board Return Merchandize Authorization process and decided to go with a different motherboard company. My parents had an electrician come out and fixed the outlet afterwards. It would be several more months before I would get the computer rebuilt. I went to a computer tech support store to have them build the custom built computer. However, I got the custom built using the new motherboard up and running in the end. 😇 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Zvalen812_ January 21 My story was very hectic. A couple years ago I was making my first gaming pc. We had turned the computer on its side on our low height table where we were working. We had first static shocked our first cpu, so we got another. Then when it was time for the motherboard we noticed that the deal we got was too good to be true, we got used 4gb DDR3 RAM instead of a 16gb DDR4 stick. So we had to return it, and while we were waiting for our real stick, we decided to set up our water cooling device. While doing that, our thermal paste dot was way bigger than a pea, so we had to restart. While we were grabbing paper towels to clean it up, the family dog decided it was a good idea to chew the power supply cords and poop on the ssd that was right outside of the case, luckily it was still in the original package so it was not a big deal. We ordered new psu cords. While trying to put on the water cooling block, we lost a screw for it, but we had a back up. Terrible first time building (:, but I have had the computer for more than 2 years now and it is still running well. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ccantera January 21 This last Christmas I got a new case, motherboard, and CPU fan. I took everything out of my old case and was left with my old motherboard with the CPU and stock cooler on it. I take off the stock cooler but the CPU comes off with it and is stuck on the cooler. I searched online to see how to take off the CPU without damaging it and used dental floss to try and remove it. While doing that my hand slipped and it resulted in several bent CPU pins. I thought it was over for me but I saw you can try to straighten them and I tried but that only resulted in a broken CPU pin. I expected my Christmas to be me playing Cyberpunk 2077 all day but it instead I ended up with a broken CPU. I had to wake up early the next day to go Micro Center to buy a new CPU. Probably the worst Christmas I've had. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook BeastJvalen9654 January 21 I have made 2 PCs over the past like 8-10 years, and both of them had some problems. The first one was when I was a beginner, barely knew what to buy and how to build it. I ended up buying my fans and GPU through eBay. When I got them, the fans were broken and the fan on the GPU was not working and the GPU started smoking as soon as I tried to start it. These were some of the first parts I bought so it was not a strong start. Otherwise, the first build went smoothly and I didn't have much difficulty building it. The second build was much more recent and it involved way more problems throughout the short life it lived. The purchasing process went much smoother, it was during assembly that the first problem occurred. I had my baby nephew over at the time, I stepped away for a moment and when I came back, the CPU pins were bent because he chewed on it after thinking it was a toy. I got a new CPU and finished the building process smoothly. After it was built, a friend was over and spilled a drink on the top of the box, which then dripped right onto the fans and ports of the case and shorted it out. I didn't know this happened until the next day when I went to start it up, but it was too late.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Shea_ ✭ January 21 Five years of playing on a budget gaming laptop throughout college, I finally gathered enough frustration with the freezes and enough money to dedicate myself to building a new laptop. I consulted my more dedicated gaming friends for advice and we picked out the parts together. Albeit a bit naïve at the start, I quickly realized that those five years only led up to disappointment, with no GPU's in sight. A pandemic, a climb in the value of bitcoins, and a never ending army of scalpers all plagued my dream. A tragic ending of a PC never built, but definitely a horror story. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MCLover ✭ January 21 I spent $700 to build my first PC in Nov 2019. I just realized that I've spent $1,000 more to upgrade parts like better CPU, GPU, RGB RAM, PSU... Guys, stay away. This is a dangerous and horrifying hobby. 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook ScientiaDomini January 21 This all started with a friend gifting me an old i5 8400 and a mobo along with it. I had a pretty old 6th gen processor at the time and he happened to be upgrading his PC. He decided to gift his old stuff to me so I went to work upgrading my current rig with the new mobo and cpu. Started putting everything together and I realized I didn't have a cooler. I made a trip to the nearest PC supply store and purchased the cheapest bequiet tower cooler I could find. Standard intel stock mounting system. Easy enough right? Somehow I managed to mangle all of the plastic pins that hold the cooler to the motherboard before I could get it secured on the motherboard. I was distraught. How in the world am I going to use this new cpu without a cooler? So I did what any logical man would do and I grabbed my nearest discarded intel stock cooler out of the miscellaneous parts bin, took it to my workbench where I'm rebuilding my pc, and cannibalized the pins from the intel cooler to reuse in the tower cooler I just purchased. After struggling with the pins for 20-30min and battling more bent plastic (you'd think that removing intel's pushpins out of the cooler would be easy right? wrong.) I managed to get the cooler to stay on the motherboard without any of the pins miraculously popping out of their hole and ruining the mounting pressure of the cpu. Its a wonder I didn't bend the socket pins during all of this.... 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Suzukii ✭ January 21 edited January 21 So here is my horror story at attempting to build my own PC after 5 long years of no builds. The quick version.  I returned everything due to a frustrating experience at the store and the lack of, new, unopened ND unavailable 5950X CPU's. To continue It's a moot point now since I've already returned the CPU to the store and got a refund for it along with a refund for everything else I had purchased to put a new system together, minus the new ATX enclosure and 3070 GPU.  I had to return the CPU and everything else associated with a new build because no one at the store knows or are not at liberty to forward the information as to when the next batch will be coming in, and I definitely don't know if I would have been getting a 5950X CPU in the near future with the way things are with the lack of inventory, and I didn't want to get stuck with faulty hardware that I could not return should anything else be defective. A bit of my background experience: I'm 50 years old and have been in the I.T. industry since the 90's holding an A-Plus, Network+, CCNA and the MCSE certifications for over 15+ years (and have been building my own PC's for 20+ years).  I mention this just to give one a glimpse and a bit of insight.  In telling  this I'm not professing, by no means, nor do I wish to give anyone the idea that I am some kind of a know-it-all.  I'm just a bit seasoned in the build your own PC arena. I've learned a lesson in making future purchases and making returns of any items back to Microcenter.  After being a 15-20+ years, long and loyal customer, the treatment I received and suffered at the store this past Monday evening which I feel was undeserving and unwarranted.   It all started when at first, within a couple of days of making the CPU purchase, along with everything else required to get a new PC up and running, I took the questionable 5950X CPU back to the Paterson store since I couldn't get it to work.  However using the same hardware I could get a 3950X CPU working in the same mobo hardware.  The store staff and a manager had the audacity to tell me at the store that they were going to charge me $40 to inspect and test the CPU I had just purchased in the store less than 48 hours ago to verify if it's functionality while telling me that I had to wait 1 1/2 weeks because of the backlog. This all started because I was so excited about having gotten my hands on an AMD 5950X CPU that upon purchasing it I had neglected to look at the CPU's packaging when I paid for it at the register. Because I was in a bit of a  bereavement state, due to a recent loss hours earlier, and waiting almost 3 hours on a line in 26 degree (Fahrenheit) weather,  I didn't get to the CPU sitting in the Microcenter shopping bag for 24 hours after the purchase, only to find out that the packaging which the CPU comes in, the hard plastic clam shell, had already been cracked open, and had no external seal to break in the 1st place, prior to my purchasing it. In my excitement I said what the hell, and decided to try the CPU anyway. After trying for almost 3 or 4 days, I returned with the processor to the store and they basically looked at me like I was some sort of a guilty criminal with something to hide upon producing the CPU.   Normally I was asked by the cashier why I was returning CPU, after almost 1 minute later, of the register cashier pulling the CPU out of its plastic packaging bare handed, with no antistatic protection gear.   When I was asked by the cashier  as to what was wrong with it, I proceeded to explain how I received the CPU in the 1st place and a minute later he waved a manager over and now there were 2 people at the store register scrutinising the CPU.  Now the two gentlemen  were feverishly scrutinising the CPU,  as if though all of a sudden they were CPU Engineers with microscopes for eyes, handling the CPU with their bare hands and, again, no antistatic protective gear.  They proceeded to tell me that the CPU had a couple of bent/misaligned pins of which I could not see with my bare eyes, nor with my reading glasses on.  The glances and distrusting looks that I was receiving from each of them for about 2 minutes, were unnerving and I had to keep my composure before I told them what was really going through my mind.  Finally, the manager stated he would take it back, but he didn't hold back on giving me a lecture and a warning, as if speaking down to a miscreant child.  He stated he would make an exception, "this one time for me", in accepting the return. The possible next time I go to purchase anything at Microcenter I will make sure it is not an open item of any kind. The customer service I received that day was unwarranted, undeserving and unprofessional   I am sure that someone could scrutinise the video of the event this past Monday evening, between 7pm and 8pm, of them hovering over the processor when I returned it and study my body language to see how uncomfortable they made me, a long time, loyal, frequently returning customer.  After this experience I will not make Microcenter my 1st choice for purchasing tech enthusiast high-end items  Instead I will make my future purchases more frequent online 1st.   Well, one less person to get onto the wee hour lines waiting for that hard to get opportunity to score a great piece enthusiast item.   Sad as to how far this store,  in Paterson, has fallen.  Really sorry for the long rant. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MNPolarbear January 21 I think the worst building nightmare I ever had to deal with was when a friend was trying to do someone else a favor trying to save them money by doing a home built PC for them.  As he was new to building PCs, he did not know about how CPUs are keyed when inserting them into the motherboard.  As such he inserts the CPU the wrong way and manages to bend a few pins on it trying to clamp it into place.  This was on a LGA socket 478 CPU.  I grabbed his lighted magnifying glass, the smallest precision screw driver and the smallest needle nose pliers he had.  With a little patience I was able to bend the few bent pins back in place so the CPU would drop into the socket properly and he wouldn't need to replace the CPU.  Talk about a sigh of relief when the PC posts and we can start installing the OS. 2 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Suzukii ✭ January 21 edited January 21 I wish that had been my case before returning the 5950X CPU I waited for on a 3+ hour line last week in Paterson.  It was DOA and it drove me nuts.  Please to anyone reading this: Do NOT ACCEPT ANY CPU'S or OPEN RAM from the store unless they can test it right there in front of you otherwise suffer the experience I was given by the store staff upon trying to return the item.  And by no means should one have to pay for the item in question to be tested if the item in question is 14 days or less from the purchase date.MNPolarbear said: I think the worst building nightmare I ever had to deal with was when a friend was trying to do someone else a favor trying to save them money by doing a home built PC for them.  As he was new to building PCs, he did not know about how CPUs are keyed when inserting them into the motherboard.  As such he inserts the CPU the wrong way and manages to bend a few pins on it trying to clamp it into place.  This was on a LGA socket 478 CPU.  I grabbed his lighted magnifying glass, the smallest precision screw driver and the smallest needle nose pliers he had.  With a little patience I was able to bend the few bent pins back in place so the CPU would drop into the socket properly and he wouldn't need to replace the CPU.  Talk about a sigh of relief when the PC posts and we can start installing the OS. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Brik January 22 My first PC build was a B50 Phenom II and I had NO IDEA what I was idea. I put everything together and couldn't figure out how to turn it on. I saw a post about putting a penny on the two posts for the power switch but I ended up putting the penny to the CMOS Clear switch and somehow ended up burned up the BIOS. Had to RMA the motherboard after hours of working on it and there wasn't a giant catalog of youtube tutorials or diagnostic tools online 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Coconuts January 22 On my first build I plugged the HDMI cable into the mobo instead of the graphics card and felt despair when nothing displayed on screen. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Kayaker ✭ January 22 This was way back in the 20th century.   Had just upgraded a computer for a sweet lady and I was proud.  Pride and inexperience led me to confidently connect the 2.5 inch floppy drive to its power connector as the final piece in this upgrade.  Only I inserted it backwards.  Didn't realize it until the power supply popped and fizzed on first fireup.  I felt really bad for my customer as the 'young tech hotshot' screwed up and knocked her computer out of use for several days.  Hardware today is much more idiot proof as connectors can only go in one way.  1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook hiddenGamer28 ✭ January 22 The computer I am using now is actually a friend built hand me down I got a few years ago when my pre-built dell died.  I've had it for about 5 years and it uses an i7-870 so that should tell you how old it is in general.  I've replaced some computer components before but have never really built a computer, but during the quarantine I discovered build guides on YouTube and was excited to build a computer myself.  I am out of work so I can't afford a whole new computer, but as I was watching the videos I started to notice little things about my computer that I could fix.  The main things I saw were; there was no cable management, the cpu cooler was mounted facing straight up rather than with the air flow, and the rear fan would stop moving and required me to physically spin the blades to start it up again.  I started with the fan and replaced that pretty easily.  There was another fan in the front that had never worked and it turns out it was never plugged into the header.  I downloaded the mobo manual to find the front header and fixed that too.  I tried to do the cable management but the case was so old and there was no room to work so I asked for a new case for Xmas.  I figured it would be easy enough to just switch the cases but it took way longer than I expected. The first problem I ran into was that one of the screws wouldn't unscrew from the motherboard.  In fact, when I unscrewed it, it pulled out the riser from the case itself.  Luckily it still fit into the new case even with the other screw so that ended up turning out ok.  It took way longer than I thought it would, but I managed to get everything done in about 2 hours and went to turn it on and............nothing. No post, no screen, no error, nothing.  It would run and all the fans would turn on, but nothing would appear on the screen.  I had to hard shutdown by holding down the power button, but a couple seconds later it would always restart.  I ended up having to pull the power to get it to stay off so I could work on it.  I pulled out the ram and put it back in (one stick didn't go in all the way so the mobo yelled at me for that).  I pulled out my graphics card and put it back in.  I redid all the wires for the front panel, I checked all the screws, I checked all the wire connections, I took out and reinstalled the PSU.  Nothing worked.  After 3 hours trying to get it to post, I was about to give up.  I decided to go back to the old case to see if there was anything I missed.  I gave it a good shake and a teeny tiny little piece of beige plastic fell out from behind one of the panels.  I went to google and looked up pictures of my motherboard and compared those to the manual and it was the bios config jumper.  At this point I was extremely upset because I broke off a very important piece of the motherboard and I wasn't sure if it could even be fixed. But while I was reading the manual I noticed that there were 3 pins the jumper plugged into.  I looked at the motherboard and there were 3 pins still.  It was at this point I realized it just slides onto the pins.  I placed it on and it started right away.  At this point I thought about the 3 hours I had just wasted because of this tiny piece of plastic.   tldr: on my first computer build the mobo bios config jumper fell off in the old case and it took me 3 hours to figure that out. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Darkle_Gray January 22 The Story begins the day before college classes are slated to start. I have my trusty Dell prebuilt XPS from the 2010 vintage and saw that Windows 10 needed to update. I allowed it to reset and waited...and waited...and waited. It rebooted, then nothing. Then rebooted again. Insert infinite regress boot cycle. I take a coffee break, hoping it magically fixes itself, but woe unto me, it does not. Now, I need a computer, and the only place I can think of to look for one is Micro Center. I brave the wild crowds and wander the store, and find myself in the prebuilt and monitor side, where I end up with a refurbished HP prebuilt. Why not? less work and I can get up and running. Think again. I get it home, fire it up, and look inside. No way I can use this. Non-upgradeable without an immense amount of work and money. So back to the store I go, with the resolve to go with my original idea of finally building my very first pc, from the ground up. I've repaired and replaced plenty of components in my time but never built one from the start. I have a Powerspec 750 watt power supply, Samsung Evo SSD and a 4TB spinning rust,  and a GTX 780 from my recently befuddled Dell, along with 2 Acer XV240Y monitors for the cause. With this in mind, I proceed to gather the needed items, with a Ryzen processor, open box MSI B450 motherboard, Ram, and a Lian Li case. Got my prizes home, and cleared the desk. Open the motherboard, and find...the backplate was missing, and also refused to show any signs of life. So... back to the store. Perusing the open box motherboards again, I find an ASUS ROG B450 motherboard that not only works but offers me so much more for now and in the future.  And after all that work, extra trips to and from my local Micro Center, and the headaches of building my first bespoke computer I now have a pretty decent rig, with a mid-range mobo, Ryzen 5 3600, and a ton of potential for the future for upgrades. In particular, a much more modern RTX or RX video card, a VR rig, more memory, and an NVME drive. If you made it this far, thank you for reading this, and I am genuinely excited to have been able to do this. It's something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and it feels great to accomplish this and bring it into reality.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook EmmaB ✭ January 22 edited January 22 During my first and only build I put the CPU in without lifting the retention arm and continued to tighten the cooler on top of it. I had been trying for a solid 10 minutes to get the CPU to fit properly and finally thought I had done it.  I had no idea what I had done and ended up going to a computer shop to find my mistake.  Luckily none of the pins were bent but I spent about 50$ for them to find and fix it.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook zeigan January 22 Years ago I learned the hard way the damage static electricity can do on a processor. And why it's never a good idea to hand straighten bent pins on one carelessly. They just snapped right off.  0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook AndrewC January 22 I don't have any serious horror stories from building pc's, but on my first build we could not get the pc to post. It was mine and my brother's first build and we finally found out that the pc was not plugged into the monitor. This frustrated us because we just could not figure out what was wrong. Finally we found the unplugged cord and fixed the problem. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MattNemesis ✭ January 22 edited January 22 Funny story/unfortunate stories, but the pc build went fine, I was driving back from microcenter to my parents house to pick up some tools to ultimately build my bros new pc at my townhome, AMD FX-6100, 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 ram sticks, EVGA GTX 560, ASUS AM3+ M5A97 motherboard, Thermaltake V3 Black edition case, kingwin 120mm blue led case fans, Hyper 212 EVO cooler. On my way back to my place I had all the pc parts in the front passengers seat buckled up nice and safe. The motherboard box fell off the seat to the passengers side leg room area. I reached down to grab it to make sure it was ok while driving, I veered right just a little bit, on my parents street not to the point of hitting the pavement, but one of the houses mailboxes was tilted a little bit too much into the street, to which my passengers side mirror hit it and ripped off and did damage all down the side of my car, around 3600 dollars in damage and a mailbox replacement lol.  Also did a build for a friend at his house and was finishing up to make sure the Windows install went ok and it booted (he was going to install the drivers, (he got all the parts from microcenter the previous day), my reward was a 6 pack of beer. Upon leaving and driving home, 2 cars in front of me braked really hard to try to avoid an animal but ran over an Opossum anyway,  the person in front of me braked, I braked and avoided hitting the person, the person behind me rear-ended me at 45 mph and I poped in my seat lifting my foot off the brake (manual car) and physics made hit the person in front of me, completely totaling my car. The car was a Dodge Dart 6-speed turbo edition. If I stayed to install the drivers on the pc I would have avoided the situation lol. Coming home from microcenter recently to try to get a new GPU with no luck, a pickup truck in front of me veered to avoid a piece of aluminum on the highway, he kicked it up and it hit the front of my car and glancing off the passangers side of the hood, did some damage and ended up get a flat tire yesterday because of it also lol. Not begging to get this GPU, but I cant deny the facts lol, gl to all! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Suzukii ✭ January 22 MattNemesis said: Funny story/unfortunate stories, but the pc build went fine, I was driving back from microcenter to my parents house to pick up some tools to ultimately build my bros new pc at my townhome, AMD FX-6100, 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 ram sticks, EVGA GTX 560, ASUS AM3+ M5A97 motherboard, Thermaltake V3 Black edition case, kingwin 120mm blue led case fans, Hyper 212 EVO cooler. On my way back to my place I had all the pc parts in the front passengers seat buckled up nice and safe. The motherboard box fell off the seat to the passengers side leg room area. I reached down to grab it to make sure it was ok while driving, I veered right just a little bit, on my parents street not to the point of hitting the pavement, but one of the houses mailboxes was tilted a little bit too much into the street, to which my passengers side mirror hit it and ripped off and did damage all down the side of my car, around 3600 dollars in damage and a mailbox replacement lol.  Also did a build for a friend at his house and was finishing up, (he got all the parts from microcenter the previous day), my reward was a 6 pack of beer. Upon leaving and driving home, 2 cars in front of me braked really hard to try to avoid an animal but ran over an Opossum anyway,  the person in front of me braked, I braked and avoided hitting the person, the person behind me rear-ended me at 45 mph and I poped in my seat lifting my foot off the brake (manual car) and physics made hit the person in front of me, completely totaling my car. The car was a Dodge Dart 6 speed turbo edition. Unfortunate loss but for PC building all worth it. Def. unfortunate events for you. If I were you I'd stop drinking and building.PC's or at least have a designated PC equipment handler on speed dial. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook MattNemesis ✭ January 22 edited January 22 Suzukii said: MattNemesis said: Funny story/unfortunate stories, but the pc build went fine, I was driving back from microcenter to my parents house to pick up some tools to ultimately build my bros new pc at my townhome, AMD FX-6100, 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 ram sticks, EVGA GTX 560, ASUS AM3+ M5A97 motherboard, Thermaltake V3 Black edition case, kingwin 120mm blue led case fans, Hyper 212 EVO cooler. On my way back to my place I had all the pc parts in the front passengers seat buckled up nice and safe. The motherboard box fell off the seat to the passengers side leg room area. I reached down to grab it to make sure it was ok while driving, I veered right just a little bit, on my parents street not to the point of hitting the pavement, but one of the houses mailboxes was tilted a little bit too much into the street, to which my passengers side mirror hit it and ripped off and did damage all down the side of my car, around 3600 dollars in damage and a mailbox replacement lol.  Also did a build for a friend at his house and was finishing up, (he got all the parts from microcenter the previous day), my reward was a 6 pack of beer. Upon leaving and driving home, 2 cars in front of me braked really hard to try to avoid an animal but ran over an Opossum anyway,  the person in front of me braked, I braked and avoided hitting the person, the person behind me rear-ended me at 45 mph and I poped in my seat lifting my foot off the brake (manual car) and physics made hit the person in front of me, completely totaling my car. The car was a Dodge Dart 6 speed turbo edition. Unfortunate loss but for PC building all worth it. Def. unfortunate events for you. If I were you I'd stop drinking and building.PC's or at least have a designated PC equipment handler on speed dial. Lol, didn't drink any of it until I got home of course because my car got totaled, the cop laughed at me because I was taking a 6 pack of unopened beer out of the trunk (at least it opened before it got towed and the beer wasn't damaged lol). Luckily everyone was ok in that ordeal, the person that rear-ended me, his car was totaled also.  1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Abdel ✭ January 22 I m hear to learn how to build computers  thank you 1 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook someguynamedmatt ✭ January 22 edited January 22 I've been building PC's now since around 1997 as a hobby. I have two specific horror stories. 1) Around 2000 the AMD thunderbird core processors came out and I wanted a new 750MHz computer, complete with 512MB of RAM. WHOA what speed (cue doge meme). The board I had gotten was a Biostar mATX board that had a built in graphics card. Extremely rare chipset, too, that if you ever lost the driver floppy, you were toast. I did. Went to reload WIN98 and 640x480 graphics FTL. A friend of mine lent me an ATI Rago Pro 32MB to test out. I plugged it in, booted up to a wonderful BSOD over and over again. Suddenly smelled smoke coming from the PC. Turns out the power supply was a puny 200w unit that barely took care of combo I had in there, and the video card drew just enough current and voltage through the MOBO that it wrecked my system. This was before the days of DVRM and AVRM and all the other acronyms for voltage and amperage signals that help clean up the power. CPU survived, but the PSU, HDD, MOBO and my pci modem all died. Went to a computer show the next week, repurchased what was needed and had a new rig with a 400w PSU. 2) I've NEVER done a watercooling or other exotic cooling solution and decided that 2015 was the year to do one. Intel 4790K, EVGA SLI 970's, Gigabyte Z97 MOBO. Alphacool GPU waterblocks, EK CPU block, 120mm and 360mm radiators with an Eheim pump. Took me nearly a week to fully customize and assemble into an OLD Antec P120w. I made sure every fitting was clamped and leak tested for 48 hours, just to be safe. Fast forward two weeks. I'm sitting at my desk looking at my bay mounted reservoir and realize that the water level has dropped. Significantly. It's a dual bay reservoir and the pump is external, so volume in the reservoir is maxed out. It's got to be at least 500ml that has gone missing. So I take a look inside and see nothing, no drips, no dye anywhere. I go to refill it, and that's when the leak reveals itself. The fitting, although screwed in, had somehow backed out of the upper 970 waterblock. The water had been dripping onto the lower GPU and traveled along the hot backplate, then traversing back under the backplate, dropping onto the PCB. Tried to dry it all out, only to find the damage had already been done. The GPU had somehow kept going despite the damage, but although I had cleaned it up, it was time for that GPU to say farewell. Sure enough the regulators were cooked. After ripping all of it out, redoing everything, I went to power it up, and another unseen leak above the PSU, this time, dripped right into it. SEVERAL large pops later, I was ordering a new corsair 1100w. Ever since then when it's maintenance time, I triple check everything, run a spare external PSU just for the pump before ever plugging anything in. Although I loved building the PC, I don't know that I will ever do another watercooling build, especially when the efficiency level of components continues to improve. BTW, this rig is still my home daily rig. Looking forward to running a 3070 in it one day. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Thomaschio ✭ January 22 My build nightmare is a long one..... Initially my build was great, worked fine. The nightmare comes in with the intervention on my son who was 2 and a half at the time. This child poured an entire cup of juice in the top of my computer when I was at work. At first I tried cleaning everything off with alcohol. At first, it seemed like the only part that actually bought it was the motherboard, I thought I was lucky. One hundred dollars and 3 hours of drive time to Microcenter is getting off easy considering the circumstances. After rebuilding my computer and reinstalling everything it booted up. I was extremely happy, until 3 hours later when my GPU decided to pick up a heavier smoking habit than mine. Next paycheck, 3 more hours of driving and 400 dollars later I get a new gpu. At the time it wasn't a terrible thing, I was able to get a nice upgrade. Everything booted up fine it was working marvelously until i started to game. The over current protection started tripping. As anyone still reading this would guess it, another 3 hour drive to get a power supply. Fast forward a week and several memory errors later. I make another 3 hour drive because the RAM did not survive the juice unscathed. Thanks to my son, i now realize it is possible to put more miles than dollars into a computer. 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook afernandez28 January 22 Unfortunately my PC Build Horror Story is still taking place as we speak! Scammed out of Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Graphics Card on Ebay Since the middle of last summer in 2020 I have been slowly accumulating all the parts on my custom build list for my very first PC build, but the only remaining part I need would be the 3070 Graphics card that I've been searching for day in and day out! Now we all know the industry shortage on these graphics cards and the overwhelming demand causing a severe supply shortage, but what makes it worse is the bots and scalpers that have these take the limited supply of graphics cards only to resell for a much higher price leaving those who actually need the card without one ! While searching online for any available supply I figured I would entertain the idea of looking at some of the scalper prices on Ebay, but boy was that a mistake! I found a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 graphics card (the one I wanted for my build) which was still asking for more than the stock price ($500), but it was about $100 less than what others wanted for it ($700 instead of $800). Knowing how fast any available graphics cards are taken, I knew I needed to act fast if I wanted a shot at obtaining one! The rush of adrenaline pushed me to taking out my card and buying it with no hesitation, but this is where it all went wrong...I misread the description of the item and bought A PICTURE OF THE GRAPHICS CARD FOR $700!!! Now I know this is entirely my fault for acting too quick without throughly looking through the details, but after searching for months I have grown anxious and jumped at the first opportunity! So now here I am needing only the graphics card to finish my first ever PC build, but I am sitting with just a picture of it and not the real thing out of $700 on top of that...hopefully my luck can change with this contest! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Karter Ohio ✭ January 22 I’ve had 3 build story’s. The first one was with my first and second pc builds, I was building my pc and my grandparents office pc, and when I went to download windows 10 onto a thumb drive from my old windows 7 computer I couldn’t get my computer to recognize the drive, so for the next 11 hours I tried to get it to work. On top of that I couldn’t get a display output from my gpu, so I eventually took my old computers dvd drive, connected the sata cable from it into my motherboard and the power supply from my grandparents build because my psu hadn’t come yet, and used the windows 10 installation dvd that was for their parts, an old nvidia 9300 from my moms 10 year old pc so I could get display output and was finally able to get windows 10 installed on both computers. Was able to build their computer no problems but my pc wasn’t so fortunate... after I built my computer and had it connected to the tv for a couple days ( I hadn’t bought my computer monitor yet ) I went out of town for 2 weeks. When I got home I  moved the pc into my room, hooked everything up pressed the power button... and Nothing, that started 2 weeks of trouble shooting. At first I thought it was a bad 24 pin eps connector, because when the evga power supply works it has a solid green light in the back. And when that cable was unplugged the light came on instead of flashing, so I got one sent to me under warranty ( props to EVGA for great customer support ) the new cable arrived and still nothing. That’s when I started to panic a little bit 😅, and when I was putting in the new eps cable my cablemod 24 pin extension cable broke as well another return 🙄 but Amazon was pretty good about it so that was no problem. Over the next couple days me and my dad tried to figure out what was wrong. We narrowed it down to a grounding issue so one night I took the whole computer apart set the stuff on the box and it finally worked. I spent the next 5 hours taking a nail file and sanding the paint off the back of the motherboard screws reassembling the computer and it STILL didn’t work, so I replugged in every cable that I thought was important, and nothing, I decided to check the fans and rgb... turns out a backwards rgb cable kept my pc from running for almost 3 weeks.                The second story is one of my friends builds, I had been helping him pick out parts for the past several weeks. When he got all the parts he had another one of his friends help him build the computer, a day later he video calls me asking him to help him configure his hard drive (because it wasn’t showing up in bios or anything ) turns out when his friend was building his pc, in the rats nest of cable management, he forgot to plug in sata power to the hard drive, an easy fix but kind of funny.           And the last story. Just recently I helped a friend of mine with  his first pc build, and I walked him through it over several video calls. There was some confusion in the end with his gpu. First was he didn’t have the gpu screws out of the pcie slot cover so the gpu was just wedged in the case, the fingers on the back of the gpu weren’t even in the slots either, just a couple degrees from breaking the pcb and destroying the gpu entirely, so when I told him to remove the screws from the back of the gpu slot cover he thought that  I meant the gpu backplate and took that off accidentally, after he got it assembled it wouldn’t post, and the gpu fans wouldn’t spin meaning it wasn’t getting power, so after about 2 hours of unplugging and replugging cables and stuff in, we called it a night, the next day he de- and re-assembled the computer and it finally worked. But I’ve had some “fun” troubleshooting computers now. But I still love it and can’t wait to see what the next generations of pcs can do 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook Waffler Cleveland, OH ✭ January 22 My horror story is actually the whole reason why I got into the PC building hobby. It was back in 1999, I had bought a Dell computer for myself for gaming and such. One day, I ran into BSOD. At the time, I was pretty clueless about computers, so I called Dell Tech Support. First, a little background about me before I go on to give you better context of my experience. I'm completely deaf in my left ear and severely hard-of-hearing in my right ear, in which I wear a hearing aid. I can speak on the phone and, most of the time, get by OK. Not this time...read on. I get a guy with a heavy accent and speaking somewhat broken English. For a guy like me with hearing loss, this was a bad omen. I kindly asked if I could be transferred to someone who could speak more clearly and, frankly, a more American cadence. I want to emphasize that this ISN'T prejudice at work but the laws of physics (sound) and my ears' inability to process sound. As a result, much of what is said to me either sounds like underwater noise or different words (I'm a walking homonym dictionary). Of course, the guy was doing his best to be kind and offer his help, despite my repeated and desperate pleas to transfer me. (Side note, I had called a few times prior to this with similar results and gave up on trying to get lucky with someone who could speak better for me). Resigned, I explained my problem and, to his credit, did the best he could to walk me through diagnosing and solving. The entire call took FOUR hours, with him sometimes literally spelling words out for me (and even his LETTERS sounded like other letters to me!). We eventually resolved the problem, but after that, I swore I was never going to call tech support again and just learn it on my own. That's how I figured out how easy PC building is when I installed more RAM for the first time. I give a lot of credit to that guy for being patient with me, but my patience ran out several times. If only more businesses back then were more sensitive to needs like mine like they are now (better late than never, I suppose), but then I'd never have gotten into PC building! 0 · Share on TwitterShare on Facebook «1…45678910» This discussion has been closed. 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